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Phenix Rising posted:What actually happened that was worse than The Giant beating up all of the Horsemen by himself? If I remember correctly, the NWO were already beating the crap out of the Horsemen
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I liked it better than the proposed angle actually. http://youtu.be/qTyTlLlg1iI
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Phenix Rising posted:What actually happened that was worse than The Giant beating up all of the Horsemen by himself? Heh, oops. The NWO beat up the dungeon of doom AND the Horsemans at the same time which killed the Horsemas heat for the War Games match they were going to have in a few weeks. edit: They took the issue down. Vinny  double edit: And this all came about because Davey Boy Smith reneged and resigned with WWF instead of WCW to be a memeber of the NWO.
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Halloween Jack posted:Is...is there Tuesday Nitro?  I already bumped one threadTonight is WW3 96! King Mystery Jr vs Ultimate Dragon for a shitload of belts Psychosis vs Deano Machino for one belt Outsiders vs Faces of Fear vs Nasty Boys for two belts Sherri vs Rob Parker for THE loving WORST FEUD IN WRESTLING WORLD WAR THREE RING BATTLE ROYAL 8 PM! http://www.psp-tv.com/r/BadMoviesWorseWrestling
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LordPants posted:Heh, oops. The NWO beat up the dungeon of doom AND the Horsemans at the same time which killed the Horsemas heat for the War Games match they were going to have in a few weeks. Yeah it was 8 on 3 where the 3 completely destroyed the 8 and then here comes The Giant to help the completely outgunned nWo even the odds.
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ch3cooh posted:Yeah it was 8 on 3 where the 3 completely destroyed the 8 and then here comes The Giant to help the completely outgunned nWo even the odds. 
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The Piper/Hogan setup, as its being revealed, is extremely awful. Did they run with this because both Flair and Sting were out on injury?
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coconono posted:The Piper/Hogan setup, as its being revealed, is extremely awful. Did they run with this because both Flair and Sting were out on injury? Hogan didn't wrestle every PPV so no matter what he would only be on WW3 to do random BS.
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How did Hogan get away with not having to work a full PPV schedule? Especially when he was champ? I mean, I get that a big fat guaranteed contract meant that he shouldn't personally care if he worked one show a year or 300, but why would WCW ever agree to that?
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Shiki Dan posted:How did Hogan get away with not having to work a full PPV schedule? WCW was near-death in early 1994 and Bischoff was willing to give Hogan whatever he wanted to sign, which included a limited schedule and full creative control of anything Hogan was even semi-connected to (so basically the entire product).
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Shiki Dan posted:How did Hogan get away with not having to work a full PPV schedule? Hogan was still a draw when he signed on (albeit not as much as had been) and the Hollywood/nWo angle helped him stay important. Plus he's good at politicking and Eric Bischoff seemed to do whatever he suggested.
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Practically speaking it probably wasn't a good idea to have Hogan on 12 PPVs a year since if you wore out his welcome like they did in late 95 they would be on the hook for $600,000 every month with no return. Better to try to do big matches even if it meant a couple PPVs per year went without a champion.
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MassRafTer posted:Practically speaking it probably wasn't a good idea to have Hogan on 12 PPVs a year since if you wore out his welcome like they did in late 95 they would be on the hook for $600,000 every month with no return. Better to try to do big matches even if it meant a couple PPVs per year went without a champion. Yeah, it IS good business sense, which is why I always wondered why WCW actually did it  I guess Hogan being good at politics and Bischoff being good at bending over backwards is good enough. If only WWE could learn the lesson of not overexposing your stars...
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Are you ready for more Roddy Piper? More Hulk Hogan? More disturbing Liz angles? I have no idea if any of that will happen, but if it does it is tonight at 8 PM! http://www.psp-tv.com/r/BadMoviesWorseWrestling We're moving towards Ultimate Dragon vs Malenko, titles vs titles so you can get hyped for that! I'll also be airing an amazing Paul Heyman promo before Nitro, so come early!
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Shiki Dan posted:How did Hogan get away with not having to work a full PPV schedule? That always angered me as a kid that the WCW Champion rarely wrestled or defended the title.
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Hogan rarely wrestled or defended the title, even when he was WWF champion. I think perhaps his busiest year was the period between WM5-WM6, which is odd because he had just finished filming one movie was getting prepared to leave to film another.
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Shiki Dan posted:Hogan rarely wrestled or defended the title, even when he was WWF champion. quote:
I just picked a random month and a random year. I'm assuming you mean to say he didn't wrestle much on TV, or PPV because the champ didnt' wrestle on TV often, and there weren't meany pay per views. edit: There was a period around 2000 I think where Rock's schedule was kind of bizarre and he'd often do only 1 house show a weekend, some times he'd do them all. There was a period where I guess he was injured and he'd just do the TV tapings, and then maybe a tag match on a house-show somewhere and that was it. But, they were super low on talent then so it's possible they didn't' wanna risk injury algebra testes fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Nov 20, 2013 |
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One Nitro tonight, more Piper vs Hogan build, Malenko vs Jimmy Graffiti for one belt (instead of eight) Renegade, and a Sting music video for the ages: http://www.psp-tv.com/r/BadMoviesWorseWrestling 8 PM for Nitro! At 9:30 we'll be watching some Mad Dog Vachon classics.
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quote:Fall Brawl. Great undercard wrestling. Bad main events. And booking with more holes than Swiss Cheese. Welcome to WCW. That's how it has been. That's how it will be. If you want to see good matches, be happy because you'll get a lot of them on almost every PPV show now, just not on top. If you want to see good main event matches and don't care about the prelim matches, then you've got the WWF with Shawn Michaels, soon to have Bret Hart, and little undercard depth. If you want booking that makes sense within its own parameters, stick with ECW. When it comes to PPV, the choices are obvious and at least each side has one strong item on its plate to deliver.  Dave
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The real best quote from the 9/23/96 Observer:quote:Another angle is the return of Kurosawa (Manabu Nakanishi) from WCW with a major push. Kurosawa will have nine singles matches on this tour and if he loses more than half of them, he has to return to WCW. Stipulations reached perfection in 1996. Edit: Wow there are some great tidbits in this issue. quote:Real story. A woman called the WCW offices last week complaining because her five year old had spray painted NWO on her one year old. quote:Paul Wight had to buy the Cadillac they destroyed in the angle that aired on Saturday. They got a rented Cadillac that was supposed to be Lex Luger's car and the NWO destroyed it. They had an agreement with the rental place how much damage would be done and basically totally exceeded it in the heat of battle and Wight became the scapegoat. quote:Lots of heat in Columbus, GA regarding the Nitro show on 9/9 because it was advertised locally that Hogan, Hall, Nash and Sting would wrestle on the show, none of whom appeared in the building in front of the fans as the angle was done outside and they had no video wall in the building. That show drew both the largest live crowd (6,000) and largest live gate ($54,000) in the history of wrestling in Columbus, GA. quote:Neal Pruitt deserves much of the credit for the great production of the NWO segments. He splices in a lot of stuff that they don't even know is being filmed like when they laugh at each others' dirty jokes. quote:General feeling is that the reason they are going to vacate the world title is to get the belt off Hogan without having to get him to do a job. I wonder if they were going to do a disputed finish at Havoc to vacate the belt and thus signed Piper with an agreement he could beat Hogan since it would be non title. Then, they do an about face and keep the belt on Hogan (he probably balked at vacating) and thus are left with Piper being told he can go over Hogan but Hogan holding the title. That would explain the Starrcade idiocy. MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Nov 27, 2013 |
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quote:Neal Pruitt deserves much of the credit for the great production of the NWO segments. He splices in a lot of stuff that they don't even know is being filmed like when they laugh at each others' dirty jokes. Goddamn this is amazing, I'll never quite be able to look at those nWo segments the same again.
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MassRafTer posted:The real best quote from the 9/23/96 Observer: And that Starrcade idiocy somehow made the essential Starrcade collection. I just want to know why because it's just a brutally terrible match.
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quote:A woman called the WCW offices last week complaining because her five year old had spray painted NWO on her one year old.  So WCW is supposed to buy your idiot kid a new wall?
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Red posted:
Read it again.
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That five-year-old is now in his early 20s. I was a junior in high school when that Observer came out. God I feel so loving old.
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VogeGandire posted:Read it again. I don'tWAIT WHAT Did the kid whip the one year old with a weight-lifting belt, too?
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Chris Gaines posted:That five-year-old is now in his early 20s. I was a junior in high school when that Observer came out. God I feel so loving old. Forget that, think of the poor 17-year-old who can't even go to the beach because he's still got NWO tagged on his back.
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How do you lose half of 9 matches? I mean, he would pretty much have to lose slightly less or slightly more, wouldn't he?
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El Gallinero Gros posted:How do you lose half of 9 matches? I mean, he would pretty much have to lose slightly less or slightly more, wouldn't he? It says "more than half of them." So he either goes 5-4 or better and leaves, or 4-5 or worse and stays. It's an odd number so it doesn't end in a tie.
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I asked Dave on twitter if he felt bad about the constant thrashing he gave The Renegade. He hasn't responded yet.
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Is "Dave killed Renegade" the new "JR is racist"?
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coconono posted:I asked Dave on twitter if he felt bad about the constant thrashing he gave The Renegade. He hasn't responded yet.
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Require More Fire posted:Is "Dave killed Renegade" the new "JR is racist"? No, it was honest curiosity. Dave Meltzer was probably the only person looking from the outside in that had any bearing on mechanics of the wrestling industry.
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LividLiquid posted:They read that question on the radio show. Bryan asked it, wondered why it was asked, Dave pointed out that it was because Renegade killed himself and that the question sort of insinuated it was Dave's fault, and Bryan apologized for having asked it. This is the best. Coconono made Byran and Dave cry.
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