ZenMasterBullshit posted:Or she's not mad at all and was just trying to let things go uninterrupted. Doesn't exactly explain why she apparently dropped off the face of the earth.
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It seems pretty straightforward. Annie has like one real friend who isn't a canine god. Kat's the only other student she seems truly comfortable with and while she probably won't begrudge her a romantic relationship the fact that it's with another girl might make her feel like she's going to be replaced in a lot of ways that a boyfriend might not make her worry about.
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Nov 30, 2013 04:13
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If you allow me to change the subject for a bit, I've always wondered... do any of you have any ideas about why Surma might have disliked Jones so much? Jones isn't very active so I've always thought it was Surma being a bit prejudiced. I mean, we've seen that she was quite impulsive so maybe she just decided she didn't like her and that's that. I doubt Anthony had any opinion about Jones since he was basically emotionless, an we know that Jimmy Jims is, well, pretty close to her. The donlans appear to be OK with her too.
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Nov 30, 2013 04:17
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Blackheart posted:If you allow me to change the subject for a bit, I've always wondered... do any of you have any ideas about why Surma might have disliked Jones so much? Jones isn't very active so I've always thought it was Surma being a bit prejudiced. I mean, we've seen that she was quite impulsive so maybe she just decided she didn't like her and that's that. I doubt Anthony had any opinion about Jones since he was basically emotionless, an we know that Jimmy Jims is, well, pretty close to her. The donlans appear to be OK with her too. My assumption was that it was jealousy. She and Eglamore were involved before she ended up with Anthony and Jones and Eglamore have always had an exceptionally close relationship.
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Nov 30, 2013 04:18
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Yeah. Surma strikes me as the jealous type. In fact, it's quite possible Jones was one of the factors that led to the couple breaking up.
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Nov 30, 2013 04:19
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Hopefully he'll address all that at some point. Lurdiak posted:Doesn't exactly explain why she apparently dropped off the face of the earth. Or is maybe like in their room or something, which Kat wasn't shown to check. v  v
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"Finally," Annie muttered as she returned to gym class, "I no longer need to protect her here. I'm free!". Perhaps "Flaming Dodgeball" wasn't fair, but there was nobody to say no. There were no survivors.
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Nov 30, 2013 04:24
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That's very probable actually. I always saw it as Surma going for Tony first, and Eglamore going back to Jones for consolation afterwards since he just couldn't understand what could she see in him (and I guess nobody does...yet). This is why I suspect that, afer all, we're gonna find out that veeeeeeery deep down Anthony is a decent guy. I compared Surma's dislike of Jones to Annie's instant dislike of Eglamore. Understandably, fire elementals are very passionate and prone to first impressions.
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Nov 30, 2013 04:28
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Kat finds Annie in Paz's room having tea and biscuits with her.
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Nov 30, 2013 04:30
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Annie has gone to the library to... find a... book.
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Nov 30, 2013 04:34
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She's in the library. Googling. 'mouth on mouth' 'girl mouth on girl mouth' 'breathing difficulties' 'what is kising'
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Nov 30, 2013 04:38
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Would there have been any romantic thing happening between Jones and Eglamore when Eglamore was still a teenager? I feel that Jones would be too ethical to have a relationship with a student.
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Nov 30, 2013 04:41
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Cruel and Unusual posted:Would there have been any romantic thing happening between Jones and Eglamore when Eglamore was still a teenager? I feel that Jones would be too ethical to have a relationship with a student. No, I feel that Jones just provided whatever she thought James needed the most at the moment. At first it was obviously more of a maternal figure, then it changed as he matured. Well, the emotional part was purely on Eglamore's part since we already know Jones doesn't have feelings 
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Nov 30, 2013 04:44
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When Eglamore wanted Jones in the school picture, the others must have looked at him weird for wanting to get their teacher into the photo.
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Nov 30, 2013 04:48
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Blackheart posted:If you allow me to change the subject for a bit, I've always wondered... do any of you have any ideas about why Surma might have disliked Jones so much? Jones isn't very active so I've always thought it was Surma being a bit prejudiced. I mean, we've seen that she was quite impulsive so maybe she just decided she didn't like her and that's that. I doubt Anthony had any opinion about Jones since he was basically emotionless, an we know that Jimmy Jims is, well, pretty close to her. The donlans appear to be OK with her too. Could be something about jones being a nonliving immortal being too. Surma was big into the spirit world and all that stuff, and jones is a being that looks and acts like a person but has no soul . It could also be something more mundane, like the fact that surma was very extroverted and talkative, and jones never really talks or makes friends. Some people get the creeps from the strong silent type.
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Where was Surma shown to be jealous of Jones? I don't remember that
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Super Waffle posted:Where was Surma shown to be jealous of Jones? I don't remember that Shown? Never. Surma just didn't seem to like her much, and some people are speculating as to why. I just think it's because Jones is kinda creepy.
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Super Waffle posted:Where was Surma shown to be jealous of Jones? I don't remember that Here. Just after the group photo gets taken. It doesn't say specifically that Surma is jealous, but I think Surma's dislike most definitely has something to do with Jones forging a life long bond with Surma's boyfriend in order to study humanity.
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Blackheart posted:This is why I suspect that, afer all, we're gonna find out that veeeeeeery deep down Anthony is a decent guy. My guess has always been that he was looking for a way to "cure" Surma of the whole fatal reproduction thing, and he's still doing that, only with the focus now being on Annie. Trying to find some way to isolate and remove the elemental portion of her being without also killing her.
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Skippy McPants posted:My guess has always been that he was looking for a way to "cure" Surma of the whole fatal reproduction thing, and he's still doing that, only with the focus now being on Annie. Trying to find some way to isolate and remove the elemental portion of her being without also killing her. When in doubt, conduct remote medical operations on your daughter without her knowledge or approval! Good job Tony
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I wonder if Eglamore is drawn to Jones because it's impossible for her to die.
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Looking back, I think it's hilarious how young Surma basically talks like a slightly less hyperactive Red.
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:When in doubt, conduct remote medical operations on your daughter without her knowledge or approval! It's okay: he got a parent's approval .Edit: thinking about it, that's almost DEFINITELY why he's being such a lovely dad, saving his daughter's life is obviously too IMPORTANT to waste any time actually parenting. Surely he can just make up all that lost parenting time later ?
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Nov 30, 2013 07:23
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Surma was pretty well trained in ether poo poo, so she probably just doesn't like Jones because she doesn't have an ethereal presence and that's super freaky.
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I think it's a safe assumption that Eglamore still has buried feelings for Surma. One of the more powerful, if understated, moments in the comic was when Annie went off the bridge way back in an early chapter and he yelled out "Surma!" while reaching out and watching her fall. His thing with Jones has always been a sort of fallback relationship, it seems. Comforting for him, if somewhat troubling since she was a sort of parental figure for him early on. A psychologist would have a field day with that. But attaching to one person as a lifelong companion is Jones's thing. And I don't think ethics enter into it for her. I'm sure she's aware of ethical behavior and morality on a conceptual level, and could explain factually all about them. But I don't know if she could comprehend them as compulsions to act a certain way, the way humans tend to. She certainly wouldn't let them impede her intentions, any more than a blast door would. 
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I hope we get a montage like this http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=854 Except the roles are reversed this time
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Male Man posted:Shown? Never. Surma just didn't seem to like her much, and some people are speculating as to why. I just think it's because Jones is kinda creepy. Yeah, this could play a part as well. Surma was also part fire elemental and didn't even have the counterbalancing influence that Annie had through Tony. For somebody as passionate and hot-headed (  ) as that, the company of an outwardly completely emotionless person like Jones would be pretty off-putting.
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MikeJF posted:Kat finds Annie in Paz's room having tea and biscuits with her. Annie's giving the "If you ever hurt her" talk
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:I hope we get a montage like this http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=854 To talk about something other than "  What's Annie gonna do?" I love the little details in how Annie's drawn after the forest bit there. She really does look like she's been living in the woods for a month or two and hasn't bathed in as long. That and Kat tending to come back from vacations really tan. It's a small sort of detail that doesn't always come up in comics.
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reignonyourparade posted:It's okay: he got a parent's approval Call me pessimistic but I'm expecting even worse from Tony. My gut suspicion is that, with his weird autistic hang up over being in love for real or not, that Annies well being isn't really a concern for him and that this is all about Surma and quite possibly bringing Surma back at the cost of Annies life. Reversing the process if you will. Captain Oblivious fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Nov 30, 2013 |
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Now that really would be maximum Gendo.
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SynthOrange posted:She's in the library. Googling. 
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:I hope we get a montage like this http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=854 Thanks for reminding me how good Red would be as a counselor. "Stupid kid, just make your hair go up. Then you'll have lots of friends."
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Mindlessly clicking again and I think I found mt favourite Annie in the whole entire comic. http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=884 It's almost like a shot from the Peanuts. It's great to still keep finding these great things in older chapters. EDIT: Also shortly after there is this comic: http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=891 What does "Oh, how far you've come." mean? Does this mean the newly animated robot knows Robot? I know that he used to be a Seraph, but I didn't think that he actually met Diego, and for them to know eachother, this would have to be the case, because Diego created the robots in the Tomb. Kikas fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Nov 30, 2013 |
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Blackheart posted:No, I feel that Jones just provided whatever she thought James needed the most at the moment. At first it was obviously more of a maternal figure, then it changed as he matured. I don't really get the sense that Jones actually has a sexual relationship with any...one at all really. But a smoking hot older woman who has a strange close relationship with no normal parallels with your teenage boyfriend is going to creep any teenager out. A lot.
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Kikas posted:Mindlessly clicking again and I think I found mt favourite Annie in the whole entire comic. http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=884 It's almost like a shot from the Peanuts. It's great to still keep finding these great things in older chapters. I think it's more that the reanimated robot is impressed by the fact that Robot is apparently friends with a shadow man and a human. I expect that in his day the court robots were little more than servants, so to have a creature of the forest and a human showing friendship to a robot is progressive.
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Kikas posted:Mindlessly clicking again and I think I found mt favourite Annie in the whole entire comic. http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=884 It's almost like a shot from the Peanuts. It's great to still keep finding these great things in older chapters.
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Kikas posted:EDIT: He's talking about the court robots in general, not Robot specifically. The fact that one of them is friends with a shadow man obviously means they've changed a lot from his day.
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Rereading that chapter up to this page, I know robot is a good guy but he really gives a cultist vibe sometimes. Even shadow's sad face makes the page more ominous, although it's mostly due to the sad events he just witnessed. (also of course, you have to at least read the next page please)
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Blackheart posted:Rereading that chapter up to this page, I know robot is a good guy but he really gives a cultist vibe sometimes. Even shadow's sad face makes the page more ominous, although it's mostly due to the sad events he just witnessed. We've seen in other chapters that Robot has been waiting for an angel long before Kat was around. He might be projecting on her. Just a little. It'll probably make for some pretty great conflict down the line.
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