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WR250X is a fun loving bike. I rode Moto's R with a Baja tank and loved it. Has no problem hitting 85+ either. Personally I'd take one over a DRZ, especially considering they're the same price around here.
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I also ride a WR and haven't noticed any problems with the FI. I don't have anything to compare it to though so maybe it is super snatchy and I just haven't realized it. It laso has easy aftermarket options that make ECU changes much easier than messing with jetting if you end up going that route. Also, no loving around with chokes or cold temp starting.
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If youre ok with the power of the wr, go with that. If you want a little more punch, go with the DRZ.
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epalm posted:I thought the SMC was the 690 supermoto. Educate me. There's a much better write up on Supermotojunkie but I thought I'd put a little up here. In about 2007 KTM replaced the old LC4 (625 / 640 / 660cc) engines with a new 654cc (labelled 690 - go figure), this was offered in the Duke and SM variants. The duke had dual vertical headlights and an underlying exhaust and it's suspension travel was a bit less, it also featured cast marchesini wheels. The SM had well, controversial styling, looking a bit Spy vs Spy from the old Mad magazine. The SM also had a bit more suspension travel and an exhaust that looked like it was taken off a truck. In 2008 probably due to poor sales of the SM due to looks KTM released the SMC. The SMC featured more dirt bike like styling, lighter weight, better fuel and throttle mapping. The SMC is the one that everyone wants and as such is rare as hens teeth on the used market. KTM now offer a SMC-R that features an engine increased in size to a true 690 and more anodized orange farkles than you could poke a stick at. This is only available in the civilised world. As I said in my previous post, if you like the styling and are prepared to spend a little cash on upgrades and plug your bike into your laptop you can make a SM (or duke for that matter) a much more lively beast, closer to the SMC.
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The ones with the true 690cc engine are called SMC-R. The 690 is not actually ligher than the DRZ, it's about 8 kilos heavier (dry). Since I had both for a while, I'd say that the 690 feels more top heavy, and the DRZ feels lighter but doesn't turn in as quick, if that makes sense. The 690 has twice the power though.
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NitroSpazzz posted:Around here (Knoxville) DRZ400SM and WR250X go for about the same amount of money. Right now I'm leaning towards the WR for the FI and 6-speed with a side benefit of being lighter (~25lb). It will see some offroad/fireroad use but not enough to justify a set of dirt wheels. Is there any other bikes that I should be considering? The SV, NX and GSX are going up for sale shortly but likely won't sell until spring. I have two friends with WR250s and they love them. One of them rides KTMs with us, the other only rides street bikes and the WR. The guy that rides KTMs says he loves that it is easy and that he can thrash it and not care. He actually goes harder on the WR. The street guy says he loves how light and free it feels (but he is coming from sport bikes so take that how you will)
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I've borrowed a friends WR250 a few times and was pretty happy with it. Power isn't anything like the CRF I'm coming from but then maintenance and constant worrying won't be either. I should just start bugging my friend to sell me his, I know he isn't riding it for the next few months.
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Nidhg00670000 posted:The ones with the true 690cc engine are called SMC-R. I dunno about the sm, but the smc is roughly 300 pounds ready to ride, ~30 pounds lighter than the DRZ.
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Minty Swagger posted:DRZ Supremacy The looping possibility was too good to pass up. 
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Meanwhile at the mootmoot riding school.....
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Slim Pickens posted:The looping possibility was too good to pass up. This is incredible. I think I just watched it for 5 straight minutes.
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Just checking Craigslist out of curiosity for KTM 690s Some dude wants $7,400 for a low mileage 2007 SM, Jesus Do these things ever depreciate? Even in 1-2 years when I want to buy again a 2008 690 SMCwill still be the same price  No shortage of dukes, of course.  Does anyone on these forums even own one? I'd really love to try one they look like great fun. Nostalgia4Dogges fucked around with this message at 11:05 on Nov 30, 2013 |
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I don't get this forums relationship with the 690. It seems everyone who has owned one has been like: "this is the greatest bike ever, it's amazing!! Ps: I sold it already". People seem to love them, but I don't think anyone has held on to one. Perhaps that amazing resale is too tempting?
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Christoff posted:Just checking Craigslist out of curiosity for KTM 690s I have a 2007 SM I paid $5700 for at 8800 miles. PO was asking 6500 (Craig'slist) but he didn't give any photos, was in a weird corner of the city etc, so I waited him out a week and he called me. I looked for two months on CL (Los Angeles) and before his there was one overpriced SMC for like 9grand. I don't plan on selling mine anytime soon, unless I could quickly float the cash up to a SMC or R.
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:I don't get this forums relationship with the 690. It seems everyone who has owned one has been like: "this is the greatest bike ever, it's amazing!! Ps: I sold it already". It's amazing! Ps: I sold mine yesterday.
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:I don't get this forums relationship with the 690. It seems everyone who has owned one has been like: "this is the greatest bike ever, it's amazing!! Ps: I sold it already". They're amazing! I bought one yesterday. I took a test ride up and down the parking lot and I pulled 2 wheelies!
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:I don't get this forums relationship with the 690. It seems everyone who has owned one has been like: "this is the greatest bike ever, it's amazing!! Ps: I sold it already". Sorry I should have specified I was talking about the 690 Duke. I never see them on the road and no one ever talks about them here. Who the hell owns them all? I had a 2007 690 SM which is different from the 2008 690 SMC. Still an awesome bike and I do miss it. But I plan on getting a 2008+ KTM just makes nice (overpriced) bikes. And until someone makes a super moto without a ridiculous maintenance interval and 6th gear I'll stay with them. They kind of have that niche market cornered. They still aren't selling them in the US, correct? Nostalgia4Dogges fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Nov 30, 2013 |
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Over here the 690 SM and 660SMC are both the same price, from what I hear the 660 isn't a wise choice though. 690SMCs however, cost at least 1.5x as much and I haven't seen any of the -R's for sale.
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I'd still have my 690 SM but it got stolen a couple of months ago.
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I sold mine because I felt bad about letting such a machine get stuck with commuting. No time to ride it properly and a desire to go 100% track and dirt. I'll own another someday and never get rid of it. Its on my list of bikes I want to die with, possibly on. And freeway wheelies everyday was a bad habit I needed to break forcibly.
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Slim Pickens posted:The looping possibility was too good to pass up. I was too busy staring at the crash in progress to notice that the loop is so tight that the lead up to the next high side starts while the first is reaching its conclusion. 
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Would one expect the DRZ coolant overflow tank (on the clutch side, just under the seat) to generally be empty? Unless the bike is overheating and the coolant has expanded and overflowed. Right?
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epalm posted:Would one expect the DRZ coolant overflow tank (on the clutch side, just under the seat) to generally be empty? Unless the bike is overheating and the coolant has expanded and overflowed. Right? I've owned mine, since new (2006) and there has never been a drop of coolant in the tank. Also, I've never even changed the fluid, and my bike has never overheated. DRZ SUPREMACY!
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epalm posted:Would one expect the DRZ coolant overflow tank (on the clutch side, just under the seat) to generally be empty? Unless the bike is overheating and the coolant has expanded and overflowed. Right? The tank is there to allow the coolant to expand under normal operating temperatures. Some people that you add more coolant directly into that tank to monitor the overall level more easily, but I haven't bothered with that since you can't just pour it in.
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It should be at at least the low mark so that when the system cools from hot there is some to pull back in to the coolant system.
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Had my 690SMC for over 4 years and 24,000mi now. No intention of selling, even after it lost me my license for 3 months.
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So who the hell owns a duke or has ridden one? They seem like great fun. I've never seen one on the road nor does anyone really talk about them here. I feel like if I get a 2008+ SMC I'd ride the poo poo out of it and keep it forever and ever. But that's what I've said about my last 4 bikes.
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My first splurge purchase when I pay off college is a KTM 690 SMC that I will never sell ever unlike these other plebes who fear losing a license. 
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Yeah, it's a sumo. Get lit up for wheelies downtown? Hop the curb, wheelie through the grass in the park, and disappear.
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There's an 08 690 SMC for sale in Houston for $6750 with 14k miles. Seems kind of high mileage for that price. Of course it has been listed for several weeks now so maybe it could be had for less.
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Obviously there's a lot of other factors but from what I've seen that's a below average price especially if you can get it for something just north of $6k. I see dudes that have them with 20-30k miles and still want 7-8k.  "Adult owned, 2nd owner, 48 years old!" Yeah because that justifies the price
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IMPOSTER!
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Z3n posted:IMPOSTER! I'm torn because I like being able to jump logs and other crap that would gently caress a 17 inch rim but I really want a quick Husky or KTM or even 450 Yamaha motard for any speed wheelies ahhhhh!
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Eh none of that stuff tends to gently caress it up that bad if it's a high quality rim.
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Non sm drz400 seem to sell for thousands less on cl. Can these be made road legal with some indicators, sumo tires, and plates? I'd love a sumo, but want a sub 2k one to thrash and wheelie, not a garage queen $4500 one. Doesn't even have to be super fast. Just small light and fun. What's up with listing their usage in hours? Are these fairly low maintenance like the sv? I've read the entire thread but can't remember if this has been answered. I think I'd even be OK with a 250. The honda 230 sumo I took my msf with was a blast. Coydog fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Dec 5, 2013 |
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Coydog posted:Non sm drz400 seem to sell for thousands less on cl. Can these be made road legal with some indicators, sumo tires, and plates? I'd love a sumo, but want a sub 2k one to thrash and wheelie, not a garage queen $4500 one. Doesn't even have to be super fast. Just small light and fun. I think it depends on your local government, some places are easier to plate bikes than others. Supermoto conversion would typically involve new wheels, not just tyres, as the off road bikes will have taller, skinnier tyres. You're going to spend a few hundred to a thousand getting those wheels, and after the lights, plates and inevitable registration fees you're probably in slightly-tired-SM territory, not counting the time and effort. quote:What's up with listing their usage in hours? Are these fairly easy to maintain? I've read the entire thread but can't remember if this has been answered. Motocrossers, Enduro and race bikes in general don't do maintenance in terms of miles because they typically don't have odometers. Instead they use hours and many bikes will have a simple counter to count the hours that the engine is running. quote:I think I'd even be OK with a 250. The honda 230 sumo I took my msf with was a blast. The WR250X is worth looking at if you really want something small and light to throw around. It's plenty fast, and apparently reliable.
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Probably a bit out of your budget but what about an old 625 SMC?
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