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The Rokstar posted:Because public schools are only about education as much as required to serve as a veneer over the fact that they're really about teaching obedience and unconditional subordination to authority. That's why. Depends on where you go, honestly. Most people who make this claim also went to public school so I mean what made you able to "break the mold" as it were?
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RagnarokAngel posted:Depends on where you go, honestly. Most people who make this claim also went to public school so I mean what made you able to "break the mold" as it were? The fact public schools are underfunded and not very good at it =P
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LunarShadow posted:The fact public schools are underfunded and not very good at it =P Well, that, and it wasn't really until I was out of school for a while before I realized just what exactly was going on. Also I think kids that look to outside sources for supplemental learning (which, let's face it, if you went to public school and you came out reasonably well-educated, you probably did a lot of this) are more likely to see the bullshit for what it is.
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I left the group already but in the future, if you get an invite to any closed facebook groups for political debate, say HELL NO. Trust me on this one. 
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Blue_monday posted:I am really glad I am not the only person who has mangled their national anthem. I have mine memorized half in English and half in French and I'm really rusty on the French. I think the idea of a national anthem is kind of weird and creepy, but I think ours is okay. Talkin' bout pines and maples and poo poo in the second verse. Did you school have the same version where the like, first half was in English and then 2 lines in French and then the big finale in English?
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HipGnosis posted:I think the idea of a national anthem is kind of weird and creepy, but I think ours is okay. Talkin' bout pines and maples and poo poo in the second verse. Only two languages in your National Anthem? You're not even trying: how about five languages in a mix of two songs in two keys  Anthems have to be a marathon! You can't make one that just anyone can stand up and haphazardly throw out there like it's some poppy One Direction song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9naBCoPbkQ VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Dec 2, 2013 |
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RagnarokAngel posted:Depends on where you go, honestly. Most people who make this claim also went to public school so I mean what made you able to "break the mold" as it were? I dunno, I come from crazy privilege and went to a nice public school and my critiques of the system are clearly constrained while also being the sort of Steinbeck fire breathing commie discusses earlier.
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It still sorta sounds like "our enemy is simultaneously all powerful and controlling while also weak". I'm aware the Prussian system from which it originates was built to create obedience but I've met so many good teachers who used a system with a really poor foundation to do some good anyway. I'm all for reforming the public school system since it's total poo poo, but the brainwashing stuff always seems sort of hypocritical since naturally the people proclaiming it are the ones who resist the brainwashing somehow.
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RagnarokAngel posted:I'm all for reforming the public school system since it's total poo poo, but the brainwashing stuff always seems sort of hypocritical since naturally the people proclaiming it are the ones who resist the brainwashing somehow. A brainwashing attempt can be poo poo for effectiveness and still be a brainwashing attempt. My high school education on America's foreign policy was jingoistic and abysmally bad, and it's a tautology that those who recognize how biased something is are the ones proclaiming the bias exists. I got a better education on our fruit company adventures in Latin America from readings in my Spanish class than I did in American History. It's not Ur fascism to say that American History and mandatory pledges in schools is intended to indoctrinate rather than to educate, even if it turns out that it's ineffective at indoctrination and education both. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Dec 2, 2013 |
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quote:Linda Burnett, 23, a resident of San Diego, was visiting her in-laws and while there went to a nearby supermarket to pick up some groceries. Later, her husband noticed her sitting in her car in the driveway with the windows rolled up and with her eyes closed, with both hands behind the back of her head. He became concerned and walked over to the car. He noticed that Linda's eyes were now open and she looked very strange. He asked her if she was okay, and Linda replied that she had been shot in the back of the head and had been holding her brains in for over an hour. The husband called the paramedics, who broke into the car because the doors were locked and Linda refused to remove her hands from her head. When they finally got in, they found that Linda had a wad of bread dough on the back of her head. A Pillsbury biscuit canister had exploded from the heat, making a loud noise that sounded like a gunshot, and the wad of dough hit her in the back of her head. When she reached back to find out what it was, she felt the dough and thought it was her brains. She initially passed out, but quickly recovered. Linda is a blonde, a Democrat, and an Obama supporter, but that could all be a coincidence. The defective biscuit canister was analyzed and the expiration date was from 2008, so it was determined to be Bush's fault. old as dirt joke
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Defenestration posted:old as dirt joke With some bad political poo poo awkwardly shoehorned in at the end. It's like they didn't even try.
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:I left the group already but in the future, if you get an invite to any closed facebook groups for political debate, say HELL NO. Trust me on this one. Ain't that the truth. I was invited to one by a conservative friend of mine, and while there were a few other liberal types, the annoying rear end Libertarians irritated me to no end, and I finally left the group after one whom I'd had several run ins with start throwing racist poo poo around. I did not want that poo poo showing up in my FB feed.
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:I left the group already but in the future, if you get an invite to any closed facebook groups for political debate, say HELL NO. Trust me on this one. 'Debate' groups are hilarious. They always seem to have been started by a group of people holding one specific ideology, and rather than being interested in actually debating anything, they want to invite specific pre-approved members of the opposition, one by one, to either bury them under a deluge of crap or ban them if they start making too much sense. It's just a means of reinforcing preexisting beliefs rather than actually gaining greater understanding of your opponent or anything.
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Mister Bates posted:'Debate' groups are hilarious. They always seem to have been started by a group of people holding one specific ideology, and rather than being interested in actually debating anything, they want to invite specific pre-approved members of the opposition, one by one, to either bury them under a deluge of crap or ban them if they start making too much sense. It's just a means of reinforcing preexisting beliefs rather than actually gaining greater understanding of your opponent or anything. So basically like libertarians coming here (except with more spurious bullshit).
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Duck_King posted:Ain't that the truth. I was invited to one by a conservative friend of mine, and while there were a few other liberal types, the annoying rear end Libertarians irritated me to no end, and I finally left the group after one whom I'd had several run ins with start throwing racist poo poo around. I did not want that poo poo showing up in my FB feed. I didn't have to wait long for them to drop the "not racist" business – having an ethnic last name was enough to get the slurs flowing. It appeared to be cynical trolls and high-schoolers locked in a perpetual, unwinnable war with no stakes whatsoever. Fun!
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Mister Bates posted:'Debate' groups are hilarious. They always seem to have been started by a group of people holding one specific ideology, and rather than being interested in actually debating anything, they want to invite specific pre-approved members of the opposition, one by one, to either bury them under a deluge of crap or ban them if they start making too much sense. It's just a means of reinforcing preexisting beliefs rather than actually gaining greater understanding of your opponent or anything. Try joining a Mormon "political debate" group, if you're a non-Tea Partier Mormon. They literally believe that anyone who's even slightly to the left of them are godless, ignorant socialists. It's worse if you're a believing Mormon, but you're a Bernie Sanders type politically (as I am). They will accuse you of seeing Obama as the Messiah, they'll say that you're twisted by Satan's lies, call you ignorant, and so forth. It's more painful hearing that kind of rhetoric coming from a fellow Mormon. Of course, there's small (though reasonably sized, about 300-400 members, and 150 "active" members) Mormon Democrat groups, but most of them are strident Obama fans, so even though they trust a leftist Mormon, if you don't like Obama either...
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Managed to get through the thanksgiving trip to see my paternal grandmother with my dad not saying anything racist! Oh wait, we are getting on the exit to Montgomery Alabama and he lets out this gem.My dad on the predominately black city of Montgomery posted:Good to be back in Monkey Town  You were so close
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LunarShadow posted:Managed to get through the thanksgiving trip to see my paternal grandmother with my dad not saying anything racist! Oh wait, we are getting on the exit to Montgomery Alabama and he lets out this gem. This is another situation where playing dumb means that they'll have to own up to their racism I would think.
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CommieGIR posted:Seriously, considering that you can send most firearms in your stow luggage with no issue. Just no ammo. I've actually heard people checking firearms on purpose to reduce the chance that your luggage is lost. Just pack a starter pistol (for track meets, etc) which the TSA counts as a weapon, but you don't need a license to buy one. quote:A "weapons" is defined as a rifle, shotgun, pistol, airgun, and STARTER PISTOL. Yes, starter pistols - those little guns that fire blanks at track and swim meets - are considered weapons...and do NOT have to be registered in any state in the United States.
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Gygaxian posted:Try joining a Mormon "political debate" group, if you're a non-Tea Partier Mormon. They literally believe that anyone who's even slightly to the left of them are godless, ignorant socialists. It's worse if you're a believing Mormon, but you're a Bernie Sanders type politically (as I am). They will accuse you of seeing Obama as the Messiah, they'll say that you're twisted by Satan's lies, call you ignorant, and so forth. It's more painful hearing that kind of rhetoric coming from a fellow Mormon. I always found the hard-right political leanings of most church members extremely bizarre when I was still a member, considering that the early church was pretty much communist in all but name. Even today it has a pretty sizable array of social welfare programs funded by tithes from members. My dad is devoutly Mormon and an outspoken liberal Democrat, but he's definitely an outlier, and the only socialist church member I ever encountered was myself.
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Mister Bates posted:I always found the hard-right political leanings of most church members extremely bizarre when I was still a member, considering that the early church was pretty much communist in all but name. Even today it has a pretty sizable array of social welfare programs funded by tithes from members. My dad is devoutly Mormon and an outspoken liberal Democrat, but he's definitely an outlier, and the only socialist church member I ever encountered was myself. My experience has been the only moral socialism is my socialism couched in racist dog whistles.
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PUGGERNAUT posted:Sure wish my mother in law would stop sharing graphic anti-abortion images on Facebook Share pictures of gunshot wounds with anti gun slogans that only she can see.
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Edible Hat posted:What would Obama get out of assassinating Paul Walker? Obviously trying the cover up his role in Operation Fast and Furious.
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PUGGERNAUT posted:Sure wish my mother in law would stop sharing graphic anti-abortion images on Facebook  There was a fuckwit doing the same thing on my commute into work this morning. I could have done without remembering that.
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Every person that's posted 5+ things on my Facebook about RIP PAUL WALKER is a person who posted a bunch of poo poo about how sad it was that people were upset by Whitney Houston dying but not soldiers. Literally every person. 1:1 correlation. It's loving uncanny.
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Nth Doctor posted:
I love how they thing demonstrating that surgical operations are disgusting looking sells the idea that abortion is bad. I wonder if they'd gag if we showed them open heart surgery or battle wounds.
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Nth Doctor posted:
My wife worked at a daycare. They had them up AT a daycare.
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Thomase posted:My wife worked at a daycare. They had them up AT a daycare. Get em young obviously.
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Nevvy Z posted:Share pictures of gunshot wounds with anti gun slogans that only she can see. This is genius
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Or share pictures of dead soldiers with anti war slogans. I think that's closer to matching their logic than gunshot wounds and is free from "how do you know that person wasn't shot while robbing someone?" or whatever asinine counter they are bound to come up with. The only exposure to dead soldiers most Americans get are anonymous flag draped coffins, which makes it real easy to continue supporting war.
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White History month is every month of the year. White entertainment is every tv channel etc, etc.
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Ferrosol posted:White History month is every month of the year. White entertainment is every tv channel etc, etc. Seriously, Fox News is literally White TV
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CommieGIR posted:Seriously, Fox News is literally White TV No but they have black people who agree with their horrific views so it's totally not racist.
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Coffee And Pie posted:No but they have black people who agree with their horrific views so it's totally not racist. That is the GOPs new thing: We have black people who agree with us, SO WE CAN'T BE RACIST  Its literally the 'I have black friends, buuuuuut....' defense.
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Those remind me of the old Peanuts strip where Lucy asks her grandma why there's no "kid's day" and the response is "everyday is kid's day."
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Except all of those exist. UCCF: most independent scholarship funds Miss White America: Miss America pageant, especially ironic given how many people like the author freaked out when an Indian-American won this year. NAAWP: the US federal government and numerous think-tanks CWC: Congressional Republican Caucus WET: network television and most cable, doubly for anything Turner-owned or CMT White History Month: March - January
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TheGrizzle posted:WET: network television and most cable, doubly for anything Turner-owned Wrong.
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CMT has Darius Rucker and Cowboy Troy, who might be the same person.
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