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Dead Inside Darwin posted:stupid food analyzer: "its cool keep selling them" i totally agree with the FDAs assessment on the 23andme thing i just also think they need to start treating crossshit/yoga/personal trainers as 'doctors' since they give people terrible medical advice as well
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:i totally agree with the FDAs assessment on the 23andme thing i just also think they need to start treating crossshit/yoga/personal trainers as 'doctors' since they give people terrible medical advice as well gently caress that; they should go after the homeopaths first. and that guy in texas who claims he cures cancer
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Dec 2, 2013 19:37
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prefect posted:gently caress that; they should go after the homeopaths first. and that guy in texas who claims he cures cancer that too just all of them really
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Dec 2, 2013 19:38
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:i totally agree with the FDAs assessment on the 23andme thing i just also think they need to start treating crossshit/yoga/personal trainers as 'doctors' since they give people terrible medical advice as well how the gently caress do you agree pretty sure 23andme has a ton of disclaimers saying "this is just our tests dont go chopping off parts of your body without consulting a doctor"
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Dec 2, 2013 19:41
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:how the gently caress do you agree because we barely understand anything about interpreting genetic markers and they were offering interpretations of your genetic markers even though it's almost a pseudoscience people were making medical decisions because of it. even if it's covered in warnings that doesnt stop people from using it as medical advice. sure you cant go get a masectomy without talking to a doctor but you might decide to go off your blood pressure meds or something
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Dec 2, 2013 19:48
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yeah warnings rarely are met with much regard, even when they are bold and beautiful. in fact, perhaps in spite of that fact. see: smoking, asbesto insulation, and the 'times may change' tag on sports tickets i like that 23&me is a cool thing to see your genetics printed out but its so early in its infancy that its really hard to justify using it to 'predict' things in any regard. that said, burn all chiropractors
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Dec 2, 2013 19:51
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:because we barely understand anything about interpreting genetic markers and they were offering interpretations of your genetic markers even though it's almost a pseudoscience its giving medical advice in the same way that adverts for anything close to medicine is giving medical advice.
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Dec 2, 2013 19:52
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yeah it's kind of indefensible to be going after 23andme when chiropractors exist but there are probably political reasons or something maybe if they set some precedent with 23andme they can start going after the real quacks
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hubris.height posted:that said, burn all chiropractors i went to a chiropractor a few times after i hurt my back and she was gorgeous, so gently caress you 
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Dec 2, 2013 19:53
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:its giving medical advice in the same way that adverts for anything close to medicine is giving medical advice. the adverts should be illegal too (guess which group has more lobbyists
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Dec 2, 2013 19:53
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prefect posted:i went to a chiropractor a few times after i hurt my back and she was gorgeous, so gently caress you counterpoint: there are a lot of attractive people with dumb occupations, opinions, and life decisions
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Dec 2, 2013 19:57
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more alice must be grimdark and in every form of media bullshit http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1036370092/bicycle-grungeland-playing-cards-alice-in-wondelan?ref=recently_launched
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Dec 2, 2013 20:00
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 e: paging call now, i found a place for you to spend your homestuck money
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Dec 2, 2013 20:04
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hubris.height posted:counterpoint: there are a lot of attractive people with dumb occupations, opinions, and life decisions i let my penis make most of my important medical decisions
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Dec 2, 2013 20:17
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hubris.height posted:
nothing says goth like a suit and bow tie
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Dec 2, 2013 20:21
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250$ and you can send them a picture of yourself to be included in their "comedic web comic". he's more of an "ideas guy" so he can get you in
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Enter Char posted:nothing says goth like a suit and bow tie 
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Dec 2, 2013 20:29
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looks like something written by a fifteen year old with a part time job at hot topic but like fifteen years ago
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Dec 2, 2013 20:44
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hubris.height posted:more alice must be grimdark and in every form of media bullshit i assume the bicycle playing card company is totes on board with this right?
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WorkingPeer posted:i assume the bicycle playing card company is totes on board with this right? bicycle will print cards with anything you want on them: http://www.bicyclecards.com/custom ("Minimum purchase of 2500 decks.") this sounds like somebody just wants you to cover the costs
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Dec 2, 2013 20:55
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theres tons of kickstarters for printing playing cards and basically all youre doing is giving someone who already has a design ready enough money so they can purchase the minimum decks needed and pocket the rest of the cash its the least amount of effort possible
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Dec 2, 2013 21:05
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:people were making medical decisions because of it. i haven't read much on the subject, but is there any evidence that people were actually doing this? i know it's the fda's argument for regulation, but i thought it was a hypothetical.
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Dec 2, 2013 21:16
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Trig Discipline posted:i haven't read much on the subject, but is there any evidence that people were actually doing this? i know it's the fda's argument for regulation, but i thought it was a hypothetical. i think the letter said "because angelina jolina made a decision based on a test people might use your product to make the exact same decisions and give themselves mastectomies" or some poo poo i would assume if it had actually happened they could cite "its actually happened so you need to stop" instead of a pretty huge stretch involving a celebrity using a different test
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Dec 2, 2013 21:20
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Trig Discipline posted:i haven't read much on the subject, but is there any evidence that people were actually doing this? i know it's the fda's argument for regulation, but i thought it was a hypothetical. it's in their advertising https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXUc6LgQDY4
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Dec 2, 2013 21:20
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:it's in their advertising a real doctor told her what to do. this isnt someone making a decision without the guidance/lead of a healthcare provider at all.
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Dec 2, 2013 21:21
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but yeah, i am curious about the same thing. it definitely seems like a thing people would do though.
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jesus. if you think you "might" have celiac disease but you need to test ur dna to be sure, just don't worry about it if you really have celiac disease, you'll know it by your poops
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:a real doctor told her what to do. this isnt someone making a decision without the guidance/lead of a healthcare provider at all. in this one the girl goes on about how doctors failed her and 23andme came along and gave her the diagnoses she needed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTIY310FGBU
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Werthog 95 posted:jesus. if you think you "might" have celiac disease but you need to test ur dna to be sure, just don't worry about it ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Diarrhea
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obviously 23andme is keeping their bases covered in the ads but if you really dont think someone is going to see "WHOA MARKERS FOR LOW BLOOD PRESSURE! TIME TO BURG FOR LIFE!" then you'er opinion of people is a lot higher than mine
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we let people take tylenol with zero guidance, i dont think 23andme can possibly do more damage
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:we let people take tylenol with zero guidance, i dont think 23andme can possibly do more damage yeah agreed
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i actually sent my kit in the day the fda cracked the whip, and the waifu has yet to send hers in. does anyone know whether they're still processing kits that are already sold? afaik, they're just forbidden from selling new ones
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Dr. Honked posted:it blows my loving mind that cigarettes are still a thing theres a lot of movement in alternative nicotine delivery systems that love to talk about how much better they are than cigarettes when nicotine is still pretty bad for your circulatory system afaik snus, ecigs, etc snus loving sucks, i tried it just to see and it made me incredibly dizzy
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LastInLine posted:the difference is one is an actual medical testing device and the other is at best a spectrophotometer which you happen to use on food i guess the difference that i and others are having trouble with is the idea that the fda isnt interested in regulating a magic lump of plastic you wave over your food that says BEEP BOOP WONT KILL YOU whether it might actually kill you or not
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:snus loving sucks, i tried it just to see and it made me incredibly dizzy i tried it when i was in sweden, wow its gross
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It was waaay too much nicotine, I don't see how people could want to do it let alone do it repeatedly while hanging out.
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Al! posted:i guess the difference that i and others are having trouble with is the idea that the fda isnt interested in regulating a magic lump of plastic you wave over your food that says BEEP BOOP WONT KILL YOU whether it might actually kill you or not
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