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Super Aggro Crag posted:I think Judith is dead simply because of the limitations she'd put on the group being on the run with no shelter when the show comes back. Yes, why would they want to complicate the lives of these people on the run during the zombie apocalypse? I like the lives of my zombie survivors to be complicated.
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I was totally waiting for the Governor to get bit while he was trying to choke Rick to death. Personally I think my biggest issue with this episode (and lately this show) is that nobody seems to want to work together. Rick sort of danced around the issue with his 'we can all stay in the prison' speech but I really just wanted someone to stand up and shout, 'what the gently caress?!? There are undead zombies walking the face of the earth and you idiots want to kill actual living people? Grow the gently caress up!' Instead we get a small group of survivors attacking another small group of survivors because.....well because of reasons. It's just making less and less sense but I am glad the governor finally got killed and that they are finally leaving the prison. It would be a good place in an actual apocalypse but it's boring as poo poo for a tv apocalypse.
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Dec 2, 2013 21:53
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I'm just glad they left the prison and we get a new set.
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Dec 2, 2013 21:57
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TMMadman posted:Personally I think my biggest issue with this episode (and lately this show) is that nobody seems to want to work together. Rick sort of danced around the issue with his 'we can all stay in the prison' speech but I really just wanted someone to stand up and shout, 'what the gently caress?!? There are undead zombies walking the face of the earth and you idiots want to kill actual living people? Grow the gently caress up!' It's pretty much the same problem humanity has had since the beginning of civilization; the inability of two groups to realize that they're really only one group.
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Dec 2, 2013 22:02
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TMMadman posted:I was totally waiting for the Governor to get bit while he was trying to choke Rick to death. If it's any consolation I think the show is on your side on this issue.
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Dec 2, 2013 22:03
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TMMadman posted:Personally I think my biggest issue with this episode (and lately this show) is that nobody seems to want to work together. Rick sort of danced around the issue with his 'we can all stay in the prison' speech but I really just wanted someone to stand up and shout, 'what the gently caress?!? There are undead zombies walking the face of the earth and you idiots want to kill actual living people? Grow the gently caress up!' We are not a sharing species. We understand the need for community but once that community is formed we are wary of outsiders. Also these are people who are mostly living off scavanged goods. They are not capable of long term feeding just through hunting and farming. So you have to weigh the costs/benefits of letting other people in and the food and resources they consume. You can look at modern examples where society falls apart and you get very similar circumstances. City-states and warlords in constant battle. Mu Zeta posted:I'm just glad they left the prison and we get a new set. I hope we don't get a set. I want a road season, dammit!
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Dec 2, 2013 22:07
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TMMadman posted:Instead we get a small group of survivors attacking another small group of survivors because.....well because of reasons. That the undead can rise in vast numbers but we're actually in more danger from other people is the theme that runs through all three Romero films and I believe TWD is trying to follow that tradition.
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Dec 2, 2013 22:13
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rypakal posted:You can look at modern examples where society falls apart and you get very similar circumstances. City-states and warlords in constant battle. Yeah, when you see what some people do in real life when there's a total break down of the rule of law, the behavior of the characters in The Walking Dead doesn't seem all that unrealistic. -Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Dec 2, 2013 |
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Dec 2, 2013 22:21
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InfiniteZero posted:That the undead can rise in vast numbers but we're actually in more danger from other people is the theme that runs through all three Romero films and I believe TWD is trying to follow that tradition. Edit: drat beaten to the Katrina reference! I always wondered how true that would actually be in practice. I guess maybe natural disasters are the closest we've seen in human history to whats happened in the show, and its true that people don't react well to that kind of situation. Katrina for example, very quickly the problem became the looting and unchecked violence caused by the lack of police presence. In Contact(the book, not the movie), Carl Sagan spends a lot of time on the politics of discovering alien life and how like 3/4 of the countries of the world act as if they care much more about how it will effect their standing in global politics versus the fact that aliens from Vega just loving sent us blueprints for a spaceship. As noted scholar Tommy Lee Jones once said, "A person is smart; people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."
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Dec 2, 2013 22:21
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Darryl is totally going to bone Beth.
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Dec 2, 2013 23:44
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Rick's face at the end of the episode was highly hilarious
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Dec 2, 2013 23:54
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Basebf555 posted:I always wondered how true that would actually be in practice. Fiction also likes to present the idea that some universal threat will bring about global harmony, as we realize that our own differences are insignificant compared with the face of Ozymandius' squidmonster / Dr Manhattan / Martians. And it really looks great and thoughtful on paper. But we're already potentially facing extinction from global warming, the unchecked Soviet nuclear arsenal, AIDS and cancer, and more people are probably going to die this year in car accidents than in the ID4 invasion. More than anything, we'd probably view a zombie uprising as an inconvenience that only affects "other people" and go on with business as usual.
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Dec 3, 2013 00:03
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Das Boo posted:Anyone got the stunt double screens? I'm not observant, as per expectations. Here you go: 
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Dec 3, 2013 00:30
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Dec 3, 2013 00:30
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Why does Carl need a stunt double? I mean, what action stuff does he do?
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Dec 3, 2013 00:30
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Carol could have thought the little girl killed them when actuality it was Bob. That would be a good reason to drag them out and burn them. She thinks she is covering for the little girl when actually she's covering up what Bob did. Alcoholism and drug abuse is very common with serial killers. I think it is Bob and that's the way the scenario will play out.
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Dec 3, 2013 00:39
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I liked Hershel's smile before he died. Very Obi-Wan. I just realized something. The only characters left from the first few episodes are Rick, Carl, Glenn, and Darryl. The latter 3 are the only ones left from the original camp outside Atlanta.
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Dec 3, 2013 00:50
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Hollismason posted:Carol could have thought the little girl killed them when actuality it was Bob. That would be a good reason to drag them out and burn them. She thinks she is covering for the little girl when actually she's covering up what Bob did. Why would she think the little girl did it.
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Dec 3, 2013 01:05
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I don't know why I feel this way but I really think Andrew Lincoln is doing better with Rick's character. Maybe it's because they gave him a little depth or they gave him better situations to work in but I think he is good at being the shows center.
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Dec 3, 2013 01:10
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Peta posted:Rick's face at the end of the episode was highly hilarious Rick crying is never not funny.  Hollismason posted:Carol could have thought the little girl killed them when actuality it was Bob. That would be a good reason to drag them out and burn them. She thinks she is covering for the little girl when actually she's covering up what Bob did. MeLKoR fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Dec 3, 2013 |
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Dec 3, 2013 01:11
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Mu Zeta posted:Why does Carl need a stunt double? I mean, what action stuff does he do? I'm thinking for shots with explosions on screen. Astroman posted:I liked Hershel's smile before he died. Very Obi-Wan. DAMNIT. THAT's the one I couldn't remember. Gandalf and Maester Whatsisface in ASoIaF kept sticking in my head. The latter ASoIaF one: because of the botched beheading Fog Tripper fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Dec 3, 2013 |
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Dec 3, 2013 01:14
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Do actors have the option of whether or not they want to use a stunt double? Or is it mandated in their contract that one is used? The concept of a stunt double seems sorta strange to me. I guess an injury could seriously impact the rest of the production, story line, etc etc. But it still seems kinda wussy.
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Dec 3, 2013 01:18
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fletcher posted:an injury could seriously impact the rest of the production #1 reason right here.
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Well that was a satisfying conclusion to the Governor arc, if nothing else. Didn't like to see Hershel go, but I figured that was likely to happen more so than the rest of the cast, who at this point are either too hard to replace or just got there. I didn't like the setup at all, since it came off to me last week as far too sudden that the Governor's new group would trust him after everything that happened before that. But it was a perfectly fitting end that he failed to protect the ones he loved through his complete inability to be happy with any situation (and I have to think a need for revenge against Rick as well). I'm glad they had his not-wife off him like that, after she watched her own daughter die because of his complete insanity. This battle was the one we should have gotten at the end of last season, but for whatever reason they couldn't go through with it. I'm glad they ended this story arc for good this time around. It was a little forced how they had to put off the whole Tyreese side-plot and the mystery of who was dissecting the rats, but it does make me suspect that Carol was probably not responsible for those murders like we thought. Although if she's covering for someone other than the one weird girl it makes less sense that she would take the credit and eventual exile. Hopefully that sideplot goes somewhere in the 2nd half. I'm glad they're keeping most of the cast intact post-Governor, so that hopefully we get to see more of what we saw the beginning of the season with good character building. Characters like Bob need more screen time. I'm also not buying that the baby is actually dead. I'm sure one of the kids or possibly Tera grabbed her in the chaos.
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Dec 3, 2013 01:23
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For how awesome all the zombie makeup and gore looks in this show, why did the blood coming out of Hershel's neck look so terrible?
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Dec 3, 2013 01:26
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fletcher posted:For how awesome all the zombie makeup and gore looks in this show, why did the blood coming out of Hershel's neck look so terrible? It was probably the only thing computer generated.
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Dec 3, 2013 01:32
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fletcher posted:Do actors have the option of whether or not they want to use a stunt double? Or is it mandated in their contract that one is used? No it's usually insurance which makes the decision even though for a show like the Walking Dead or Spartacus it would be hard. Arrow on the other hand never uses the actual actors for the more dangerous fight and stunt scenes.
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fletcher posted:For how awesome all the zombie makeup and gore looks in this show, why did the blood coming out of Hershel's neck look so terrible? Because real makeup and prosthetics look better than a CGI neck wound? They wanted to have his head be partially cut off so they decided/had to use CGI.
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-Blackadder- posted:Yeah, when you see what some people do in real life when there's a total break down of the rule of law, the behavior of the characters in The Walking Dead doesn't seem all that unrealistic. It doesn't even have to be as extreme as a pandemic for a Walking Dead scenario to occur. Most recently Typhoon Haiyan provided us in a couple of days what took an entire comic book to show - droves of survivors looting stores as well as gated communities in full view of their defiant-but-helpless owners; guys ransacking abandoned gun stores and police stations so they can stock up on munitions and defend themselves; hell, there's even a heavily-armed, evil, organized group going from town to town. 
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MeLKoR posted:Rick crying is never not funny. Yeah, this is swell and he's usually a mess when he gets upset but I couldn't stop grinning at his bloody beaten-to-a-pulp face
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Dec 3, 2013 02:20
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Svaha posted:Here you go:
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Dec 3, 2013 02:45
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I want Rick to grow a big old Herschel beard during the next half now that he done made Herschel proud.
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Is it just my photographer eyes or is this show filmed on really lovely cameras? I'm not complaining about it mind you, but they just seem to have a low camera quality to viewership ratio. It definitely adds a bit of... southern flavor... to the show.
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Dec 3, 2013 03:20
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My favorite part was Michonne going all Starbuck on us,
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Mu Zeta posted:Why does Carl need a stunt double? I mean, what action stuff does he do? It's not the action that the person does, its the environment the character is in. If there's explosions or whatever nearby it's probably quicker and cheaper to have a stunt double stand in place than a kid. And it doesn't have to be a stunt double, just a body double. We had long shots in that episode, of the front gate and inner gates. No need to have the real actor stand there 200 yards away just so you see his hair and hat outline. Cheaper to rent a lookalike. And that episode was amazing. Was it first time you saw the body of the dead main char after being killed? They cut away at Lori, Amanda, Merle. Guess they had a good head prop they wanted to use.
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happyhippy posted:It's not the action that the person does, its the environment the character is in. Herschel's body wasn't in focus, but good because it was super sad 
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Mu Zeta posted:I'm just glad they left the prison and we get a new set. Constant location/set changes get expensive though, I bet they find somewhere to squat and set up shop real quick  Maybe thats why after S1 AMC was like: "gently caress this", slashed the budget and fired/forced out Darabont. I recall him saying he wanted each episode to be a mini movie
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I heard someone say on another site that the Irish woman from the first episode showed up as a zombie in this one? I don't know if that's true though.
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Dec 3, 2013 04:33
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Svaha posted:Here you go: I always knew Carl was actually a woman.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I heard someone say on another site that the Irish woman from the first episode showed up as a zombie in this one? I don't know if that's true though. Yeah, she shows up near the end when the walkers start making their way into the compound just before the "don't look back" scene.
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