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comes along bort posted:Ted Turner's been a critic of CNN's slide toward infotainment ever since he left. Really? I didn't know that always just sort of assumed he was Wolf Blitzer in disguise.
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Zeroisanumber posted:CNN is that kind of awful that you find in people who seem super-friendly, but that you suspect would secretly relish the chance to be a part of a death squad. quote:Some news organizations are refuting the existence of an alleged phenomenon known as the "knockout game" that has been the subject of media warnings in recent weeks. I wish they'd been more clear in the article...media reports of a game involving random assaults are being refuted by police who say no, these are merely random assaults?
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Rhesus Pieces posted:We all know CNN has been floundering lately, and Zucker thinks he has the solution: Less news, more 'shows' and 'attitude': They really are getting worse and worse; meanwhile Bourdain is raking in their cash while taking the piss out of CNN on-air.
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quote:RUSH: [The Democrats] destroy people's families. They destroy people's lives. I have a story -- I didn't have a chance to get to it -- about the obesity in this country. There's a story today that most of the childhood obesity is minority, African-American, and this story links it to food stamps, which makes total sense. We have nearly 40, 49 million Americans on food stamps, and they can buy whatever they want with it. That is just so wrong. Like, demonstrably so. Then he tops it off with straight up saying that food stamps is the reason for obesity in minority communities. Hello? It is a national problem that isn't restricted by race or ethnicity. And that ironically even includes his very own fat rear end. But why stop there? Let's see the article Limbaugh is referencing since he was so kind to provide us with the title A man literally arguing for children to starve posted:... I can definitely agree with the critique of the school lunch menus, which is kind of Michelle Obama's whole point in the first place, but this guy uses it to further argument that we need to get rid of food stamps. Even though Congress already cut funding to them over the next 10 years. This happened only one goddamn month ago, nevermind the whole obesity and socioeconomics angle. Just another willful dismissal of reality that Rush is notorious for.
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Joementum posted:Meanwhile, Fox and Friends has uncovered the latest terror plot: a one hour a week swim class for Muslim girls age 5-17 in Minneapolis. Never mind that we have one of the largest Muslim populations per capita in the US and that many of them live around that YMCA, you loving hacks.
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beatlegs posted:I wish they'd been more clear in the article...media reports of a game involving random assaults are being refuted by police who say no, these are merely random assaults? Pretty much, it's just pissed/drugged idiots sucker punching a random passerby because they are aggro or just plain wankers. It happens all the time everywhere. The media are trying to make it a thing were the random assaults are part of a game by a group of people involving 'organised' random assaults. Its pure bullshit fearmongering. E: It's also worth noting how this stuff is reported. Here you hear about a 'random one punch assault!!!!!' then, when you read the incident report, it turns out that while the guy certainly was randomly decked his wallet, phone and jewelry was stolen too. Basically, an old fashioned robbery reported as a 'random one punch assault you could be next!!!!!'. T.Worth fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Dec 4, 2013 |
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T.Worth posted:Pretty much, it's just pissed/drugged idiots sucker punching a random passerby because they are aggro or just plain wankers. It happens all the time everywhere. Wasn't this kind of thing big in the UK a decade ago with poor white urban youths (aka chavs) called "happy slapping"?
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skaboomizzy posted:Wasn't this kind of thing big in the UK a decade ago with poor white urban youths (aka chavs) called "happy slapping"? CSI did a dramatic episode about it starring Kevin Federline in 2007/8.
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skaboomizzy posted:Wasn't this kind of thing big in the UK a decade ago with poor white urban youths (aka chavs) called "happy slapping"? I think that was a thing in the same way this is. Which is to say that it basically isn't aside from being similarly the moral panic du jour.
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kik2dagroin posted:http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/12/03/lifelong_democrat_confronts_reality Hunger can be a positive motivator 
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Zeroisanumber posted:Just more white panic. Aren't situations like these self-fulfilling prophecies? Like, there are always some young men running around punching people, but once it starts getting blasted on the news worldwide, you start seeing copycats and it actually becomes the problem the media said it was in the first place? ReidRansom posted:I think that was a thing in the same way this is. Which is to say that it basically isn't aside from being similarly the moral panic du jour. Like the satanic panic back in the day, where you had like a thousand people nationwide at the most before the media got ahold of it, but then interest in D&D shot through the roof! Or not and a few teenagers thought it would be funny to freak out their parents after seeing the news crow about how scary all this was.
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beatlegs posted:People who are interested in actual, factual news don't seek it from TV cable channels. It's absurd for any cable channel to presume to be "news" anyway. In this climate any media entity bound by ratings simply cannot report the facts like old traditional journalism did because facts actually do take sides these days, and profit-driven TV journalism simply refuses to take sides. Al Jazeera America is pretty loving awesome though.
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I travel and stay in hotels a lot for work; recently I've noticed a sharp uptick in the frequency of people coming into the breakfast area and shouting about how the staff NEED TO COME OVER AND GET THIS TV CHANGED TO THE FOX NEWS PLEASE. HNNHH. Has there been some kind of "make sure you get fairness and balance with your continental breakfast!" campaign going on, or is it just my luck?
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beatlegs posted:People who are interested in actual, factual news don't seek it from TV cable channels. It's absurd for any cable channel to presume to be "news" anyway. In this climate any media entity bound by ratings simply cannot report the facts like old traditional journalism did because facts actually do take sides these days, and profit-driven TV journalism simply refuses to take sides. Facts have always taken sides and journalism in America has always been beholden to its profit seeking owners.
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Solkanar512 posted:Al Jazeera America is pretty loving awesome though. I worked with an Israeli-American coworker at a major cable company awhile back. Whenever we had meetings about how our channel lineup stacked up against our competitors, I always mentioned we should carry AJE just to watch her fume.
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Sir Tonk posted:Aren't situations like these self-fulfilling prophecies? Like, there are always some young men running around punching people, but once it starts getting blasted on the news worldwide, you start seeing copycats and it actually becomes the problem the media said it was in the first place? You have hit the nail on the head mate. Individuals of lower socio-economic status are far more likely to randomly assault individuals they perceive to be of higher socio-economic status with the intent or relieving them of their gear. This poo poo happens. The problem is when the reason they go after people of higher socio-economic status is ignored, it looks like they are randomly assaulting people. They are trying to rob people, making anything more of that is just the right wing way of ignoring social inequality and turning it into a situation where individuals of lower socioeconomic status are randomly assaulting your wife because they love assaulting people. It is an easy way of ignoring inherent social issues and demonising the individuals who are acting outside of a simplistic worldview.
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Dec 4, 2013 16:00
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Zucker thinks he has the solution: Less news, more 'shows' and 'attitude': CNN should air Adam Curtis documentaries.
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beatlegs posted:People who are interested in actual, factual news don't seek it from TV cable channels. It's absurd for any cable channel to presume to be "news" anyway. In this climate any media entity bound by ratings simply cannot report the facts like old traditional journalism did because facts actually do take sides these days, and profit-driven TV journalism simply refuses to take sides. I dunno, you could do a lot worse than TiVo'ing Al Jazeera on that international channel. They've done a really great job with traditional investigative journalism. They can't go as in-depth as their online reporting but it's still the same organization. I haven't watched AJA but if I wanted to watch some TV news I always found AJ English to be very informative on topics that just didn't show up on domestic news. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Dec 4, 2013 |
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Dec 4, 2013 21:09
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Martin Bashir has resigned from MSNBC following his suggestion that someone should take a poo poo in Sarah Palin's mouth.
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skaboomizzy posted:Martin Bashir has resigned from MSNBC following his suggestion that someone should take a poo poo in Sarah Palin's mouth. That was pretty gauche.
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Dec 4, 2013 21:20
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skaboomizzy posted:Martin Bashir has resigned from MSNBC following his suggestion that someone should take a poo poo in Sarah Palin's mouth. I see the rest of the infotainment sector still doesn't understand why Fox News is the most popular.
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Dec 4, 2013 21:23
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I realize that it's a totally unfair double standard that Rush Limbaugh keeps his job while Bashir loses his, but Martin Bashir loving sucks and always has.
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MisterBadIdea posted:I realize that it's a totally unfair double standard that Rush Limbaugh keeps his job while Bashir loses his, but Martin Bashir loving sucks and always has. Bashir also apologized immediately after making the comment. Did Limbaugh ever apologize for calling Fluke a slut? (serious q, I can't remember)
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beatlegs posted:Bashir also apologized immediately after making the comment. Did Limbaugh ever apologize for calling Fluke a slut? (serious q, I can't remember) "My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir. I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices."
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:"My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir. I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke if she was somehow offended by my choice of words." FTFY. Also, I don't think anyone on the Fox News side of the fence had ever even heard of Bashir until he insulted Palin. He decides to quit right after he made a name for himself among mainstream news outlets.
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:"My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir. I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices." So he doesn't say she isn't a slut, just that he used the wrong word to describe her sluttiness. Un-loving-believable.
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cafel posted:So he doesn't say she isn't a slut, just that he used the wrong word to describe her sluttiness. Un-loving-believable. Plus...it's a joke, I'm an entertainer people! 
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MisterBadIdea posted:I realize that it's a totally unfair double standard that Rush Limbaugh keeps his job while Bashir loses his, but Martin Bashir loving sucks and always has. The only thing I knew about Martin Bashir is that he made a movie / documentary / expose about Michael Jackson a few years ago. And sorry, but the left-wing version of right-wing radio doesn't work. The right-wing approach is fundamentally rooted in the revenge and hate-for-one's-enemy mentality that conservatives tend to espouse in larger proportions. For the same reason that left is not right, that approach simply doesn't work for left-wingers. So while we might joke about someone taking a poo poo in Sarah Palin's mouth, we don't actually mean it. I feel fairly sure that most of Rush's followers were fully on board with the idea that Sandra Fluke was a slutbag who was just out to get free meds so she could have a 24/7 diet of cock and unsafe sex.
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Left wing radio could work, but it will never exist because there is no money in it. E: By could work I mean that a parallel universe Rush could scream about the 1% and regressives just as well as he can scream about poors and blacks. Miltank fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Dec 5, 2013 |
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Left wingers have better things to do than cling to their radios.
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Walter posted:I feel fas wellly sure that most of Rush's followers were fully on board with the idea that Sandra Fluke was a slutbag who was just out to get free meds so she could have a 24/7 diet of cock and unsafe sex. I followed the Sandra Fluke facebook page as well as the page of Rush's sponsors who pulled out after the incident and yes, thats exactly what they believed.
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Miltank posted:Left wing radio could work, but it will never exist It existed for six years. 
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It stills exists, at least in some areas. KTLK in the Los Angeles area for example. It used to be part of Air America, but now it's owned by Clear Channel.
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Joementum posted:It existed for six years. First its Godless radio, then its Godless television, how long till we're a Godless country 
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Well if its popular who are we to disagree? Maybe the free market should decide on whether there's a God or not.
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The Nozzle posted:Well if its popular who are we to disagree? Maybe the free market should decide on whether there's a God or not. Well, to be fair, they only want the government out of their churches and bedrooms, they are perfectly okay with them being in other peoples.
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The thing with Bashir is that he just took it one or two sentences too far and spelled it out too explicitly. He was going off on Palin comparing Obamacare or the debt or whatever she was pissed off about that day to slavery, so he read some excerpts about what slaves actually went through in America. The last bit about "hey, maybe somebody should poo poo in her mouth so she knows what slavery really was all about" is what got him in hot water. If he'd just left that implied, he'd probably have been fine. It's too bad, I actually liked his MSNBC show.
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