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1st AD posted:Speak for yourself 
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Dec 4, 2013 19:35
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Tony Montana posted:
Oh there are plenty of Americans who thing that's stupid, too, don't worry. Vagabundo posted:New Zealand, Best Zealand. Ahem.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Zealand 
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Dec 4, 2013 19:48
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S01E14 - The Storyteller. This is some loving bad Trek. Four more eps till Duet, then one more and S1 is behind me. Thank gently caress for that.
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Dec 4, 2013 20:09
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Went back a few days, couldn't find it. I will just leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiSn2JuDQSc Merry Holidays, Trek Thread.
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Dec 4, 2013 21:18
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Tony Montana posted:S01E14 - The Storyteller. Yeah I definitely struggled with a lot of S1, but Duet is a key turning point. It's really fascinating how you can almost see the show find its feet before your very eyes in S2 and it just never looks back
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Dec 4, 2013 21:21
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TV censorship in the US only applies to shows freely broadcast over the air. Private networks like cable/satellite or internet streaming services can show whatever they want whenever they want. If a broadcaster violates the FCC censorship regulations they can be fined, but not criminally prosecuted. As broadcast TV has become increasingly irrelevant, so have the censorship laws related to it.
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Dec 4, 2013 21:40
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My Q-Face posted:Went back a few days, couldn't find it. I will just leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiSn2JuDQSc Merry Christmas, My Q-Face!  Have this replicated handmade sweater!
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Dec 4, 2013 23:10
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OtherworldlyInvader posted:TV censorship in the US only applies to shows freely broadcast over the air. Private networks like cable/satellite or internet streaming services can show whatever they want whenever they want. If a broadcaster violates the FCC censorship regulations they can be fined, but not criminally prosecuted. As broadcast TV has become increasingly irrelevant, so have the censorship laws related to it. And yet the dumb douchebags down at Comedy Central still filter swear words on the Daily Show at 11PM.
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Dec 4, 2013 23:13
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:And yet the dumb douchebags down at Comedy Central still filter swear words on the Daily Show at 11PM. To be fair, I honestly think it kinda adds to the charm. It's almost atmospheric bleeps.
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Dec 4, 2013 23:27
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Just think of it as Christopher Pike agreeing with whatever Jon Stewart is saying.
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Dec 4, 2013 23:29
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OtherworldlyInvader posted:TV censorship in the US only applies to shows freely broadcast over the air. Private networks like cable/satellite or internet streaming services can show whatever they want whenever they want. If a broadcaster violates the FCC censorship regulations they can be fined, but not criminally prosecuted. As broadcast TV has become increasingly irrelevant, so have the censorship laws related to it. They do however practice self-censorship because no one wants to risk precious ad dollars. Broadcast television and cable television don't really look as different as they used to, honestly.
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Dec 4, 2013 23:30
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DrNutt posted:They do however practice self-censorship because no one wants to risk precious ad dollars. Broadcast television and cable television don't really look as different as they used to, honestly. Yes, the Daily Show's audience would certainly be turned off by hearing John Stewart say "cock." 
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Dec 4, 2013 23:35
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Apollodorus posted:Yes, the Daily Show's audience would certainly be turned off by hearing John Stewart say "cock." You know drat well someone with a stick up their impulse engine exhaust port will call in and complain if he said cock.
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Dec 4, 2013 23:43
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John Oliver's podcast, The Bugle, bleeps words, but has a much higher tolerance than the Daily Show. When his material covers the same ground as a much future Daily Show bit, hearing him say the entirety of the word "poo poo" makes the jokes 10% funnier.
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Dec 5, 2013 00:04
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Dec 5, 2013 00:09
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Trent posted:It's going to eat away at you. Dammit, don't tempt me. 
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Dec 5, 2013 00:21
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Circutron posted:Dammit, don't tempt me. Do it. Do it for the BIJ
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Dec 5, 2013 00:30
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Tony Montana posted:S01E14 - The Storyteller. The village resists the dalrok. The village thinks you're a pussy. The village is united in its feeling of just how big a nancy-boy sissy you really are.
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Dec 5, 2013 00:33
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the surest sign that we've all moved on is that we got past page 90 without comment.
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Dec 5, 2013 01:40
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Apollodorus posted:the surest sign that we've all moved on is that we got past page 90 without comment.  
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Dec 5, 2013 01:42
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I'm wondering how the basic conceit of In the Pale Moonlight would play out in other Treks, with other Captains. How would Picard, Kirk, or Janeway get the Romulans on board the war effort to save the Alpha Quadrant?
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Dec 5, 2013 01:58
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Otisburg posted:I'm wondering how the basic conceit of In the Pale Moonlight would play out in other Treks, with other Captains. How would Picard, Kirk, or Janeway get the Romulans on board the war effort to save the Alpha Quadrant? Kirk wouldn't need all the subterfuge, he would just get into a meaty fight with a founder and smother it with his chest after it tears his shirt. That would be the whole dominion war.
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Dec 5, 2013 02:02
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Otisburg posted:I'm wondering how the basic conceit of In the Pale Moonlight would play out in other Treks, with other Captains. How would Picard, Kirk, or Janeway get the Romulans on board the war effort to save the Alpha Quadrant? Picard would get into some kind of accident that gets him stranded on a planet with a Romulan captain and while trying to survive they bond and gain a mutual respect. In the end they discover a Dominion jammer was preventing them from being rescued because the Dominion want the Federation and Romulans to believe that their captains had killed each other, straining relations. Kirk does the same thing except the Romulan captain is an attractive lady. Janeway does nothing but leave devastation and broken promises in her wake. e: Archer gets into a space battle with the Romulans but it was all a misunderstanding. In the end he gives an inspiring speech that we don't actually hear because the scriptwriters aren't good enough to make it convincing and the Romulans are won over by it.
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Dec 5, 2013 02:03
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Alchenar posted:Picard would get into some kind of accident that gets him stranded on a planet with a Romulan captain and while trying to survive they bond and gain a mutual respect. In the end they discover a Dominion jammer was preventing them from being rescued because the Dominion want the Federation and Romulans to believe that their captains had killed each other, straining relations. Janeway/Archer get the Romulans to ally with the Dominion outright. Somehow they manage to break the alliance with the Klingons who also ally with the Dominion. The Vulcans leave the Federation, and ally with the Dominion. The Borg make an alliance with the Dominion.
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Dec 5, 2013 02:09
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Alchenar posted:Picard would get into some kind of accident that gets him stranded on a planet with a Romulan captain and while trying to survive they bond and gain a mutual respect. In the end they discover a Dominion jammer was preventing them from being rescued because the Dominion want the Federation and Romulans to believe that their captains had killed each other, straining relations. In none of these scenarios is "IT'S A FAAAAAAAAAKKKKE" proclaimed so be glad they never happened.
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Dec 5, 2013 02:10
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Alchenar posted:Picard would get into some kind of accident that gets him stranded on a planet with a Romulan captain and while trying to survive they bond and gain a mutual respect. In the end they discover a Dominion jammer was preventing them from being rescued because the Dominion want the Federation and Romulans to believe that their captains had killed each other, straining relations. Janeway would attempt diplomacy using Neelix. The Romulans declare war on the Federation the next day.
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Dec 5, 2013 02:10
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kelvron posted:Janeway would attempt diplomacy using Neelix. The Romulans declare war on the Federation the next There you go.
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Dec 5, 2013 02:18
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Really, the question is impossible to answer for Janeway, you have to specify if she's in an up or down phase.
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Dec 5, 2013 02:27
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Janeway would flip the Romulans the bird and charge headlong into Dominion territory. Voyager would be shot to pieces and left for dead. One week later, the completely unscathed Voyager would continue her drive into Dominion territory, and be destroyed. Next week, Voyager arrives at the Dominion homeworld. At this point, the Jem Hadar would be demoralized by the unstoppable ghost ship. Janeway then deploys a virus bomb that forcibly converts the great link into coffee. Voyager lands in the ocean of coffee, and Janeway drinks her fallen foes one cup at a time.
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Dec 5, 2013 02:27
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I'm pretty sure Janeway would go back in time to keep the war from starting in the first place, also the Borg would be there because Janeway.
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Dec 5, 2013 02:30
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Apollodorus posted:Yes, the Daily Show's audience would certainly be turned off by hearing John Stewart say "cock." Their audience, no. But if it has nothing to do with ad revenue, then why aren't Comedy Central and other cable channels just going balls out and doing whatever the gently caress they want? They're under no FCC obligation to censor, yet there's no "fucks" or "cocks" and not a titty in sight.
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Dec 5, 2013 03:09
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LeafyOrb posted:In none of these scenarios is "IT'S A FAAAAAAAAAKKKKE" proclaimed so be glad they never happened. I don't know, Picard would mean the chance of more Tomalak, and that's not a bad thing.
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Dec 5, 2013 03:42
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DrNutt posted:Their audience, no. But if it has nothing to do with ad revenue, then why aren't Comedy Central and other cable channels just going balls out and doing whatever the gently caress they want? They're under no FCC obligation to censor, yet there's no "fucks" or "cocks" and not a titty in sight. They dust off the occasional gently caress. I think its less their audience, and more that if someone has it out for Company X, they'll go looking for lovely implications about Company X, and "LOOK AT THIS TELEVISED FILTH COMPANY X SPONSORSSSS!!!!!" is juicy moral crusader fodder that they don't want to deal with. And in many cases, companies don't threaten to pull ads to keep the channels in line, the channels control their content for fear of the companies running the ads.
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Dec 5, 2013 03:56
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hailthefish posted:the channels control their content for fear of the companies running the ads. This is pretty much what I was saying. I'm just a little surprised that no basic cable channels have ever tested the waters to see if they can get away with more. I keep thinking its going to happen with AMC, but America will drown itself in viscera before a show gets filthy language and/or nudity apparently.
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Dec 5, 2013 04:05
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Preechr posted:Janeway would flip the Romulans the bird and charge headlong into Dominion territory. Voyager would be shot to pieces and left for dead. One week later, the completely unscathed Voyager would continue her drive into Dominion territory, and be destroyed. Next week, Voyager arrives at the Dominion homeworld. At this point, the Jem Hadar would be demoralized by the unstoppable ghost ship. Janeway then deploys a virus bomb that forcibly converts the great link into coffee. Voyager lands in the ocean of coffee, and Janeway drinks her fallen foes one cup at a time. Story by Rick Berman, Brannon Braga and Jeri Taylor. Edit: To continue my tirade against bad ship designs, what the gently caress is the K'Vort? Just a bird of prey model not built to scale, let's be real. rocket_man38 fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Dec 5, 2013 |
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Dec 5, 2013 04:11
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No I'm pretty sure it IS the bird of prey, because it's more detailed than the Vorcha model that was made for TV.
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Dec 5, 2013 04:21
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There are two classes of Bird of Prey, Br'el and K'Vort. The K'Vort is newer and bigger but is just a way of reusing the ST3 model all through TNG.
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Dec 5, 2013 04:26
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DrNutt posted:I'm just a little surprised that no basic cable channels have ever tested the waters to see if they can get away with more. TBS ran uncut Sex and the City the whole way through exactly one time. The documentary channels, especially back when TLC and A&E were very different than they are now, pulled zero punches. Many years ago, I saw a documentary about the fighting against FARC and got to see what it looks like when commandos kick the door in and a guy takes a three round burst to the upper chest, neck, and head at point blank range. It was...something else...back before you could just casually find that sort of thing on the internet.
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Dec 5, 2013 05:06
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TNG "The High Ground" is one of the best episodes of Star Trek. It flies completely under the radar because it doesn't have major plot developments or any notable guest stars, but the story and characters are just top notch. Kerrie Keane and Richard Cox toe the line between a moral calling to defend their ideals and the kind of crass and ugly murder needed to advance those ideals. What I really like is that this is an episode where both guest stars deliver great and understated performances in the episode, and the script is so good and fluctuating between sympathies that you kind of leave the episode with a sense that this planet is stuck in a hopeless quagmire. It's one of those episodes that seems like it'd be impossible to make today because of how sympathetic the Rutian rebels are, and Richard Cox's criticism of the Federation's tacit approval of the authoritarian regime vis-a-vis trade has direct parallels to the USA's support of states with non-kosher records on human rights. No way in a post-9/11 world would you ever see an episode of Star Trek really critically tackle the idea that the United States is in fact responsible for a lot of suffering in the world and that a lot of violence directed towards us is simply blowback for our meddling. Sash! posted:TBS ran uncut Sex and the City the whole way through exactly one time.  there's an episode where a dude literally shoots cum so hard it hits Cynthia Nixon in the face from halfway across the room, that made it to broadcast?
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I finally saw that dinosaur-people Voyager episode. It is typical Voyager-bad in that, despite having a show that's so far away from Earth, they would take 70 years to get home, they keep running into Earth creatures. Like, they really can't stop doing it, over and over again, they keep running into alien races who secretly originate from Earth, have visited Earth, traveled through a wormhole/time portal from Earth, are Q, etc. Everyone from the Gamma Quadrant must be like "Oh, we know about you. We all go on vacation in Hawaii in the winter. Congratulations on finally finding us, I guess."
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