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FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Fragrag posted:

So this happened on the Belgian coast

If you can't read Dutch, hundreds of syringes wash ashore on a Belgian beach. They think a ship simply threw the used syringes of a crewmember overboard. :barf: That or it's cargo that went overboard, but how likely is the first scenario?

How many syringes are we talking about?

If it's more than a person's consumption for a couple of weeks, somebody lost a container full of medical supplies. See also the rubber ducks and sneakers being used to study ocean currents.

Syringes are plastic, so throwing them over the side would be illegal anyway... And I'm doubtful that there are countries out there that would deliver a medical certificate to a guy who needed regular injections of anything.

Edit: could also have been dumped out by a shore-based facility, carried to sea by currents and brought back in on the next tide.

FrozenVent fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Dec 2, 2013

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lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
USCG grants a waiver for type 1 diabetes. They are cracking down on health issues though. I am not looking forward to the next time I have to upgrade or renew,

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Last time I renewed, and since I started really, the only things that would get you disqualified in Canada were color blindness and maybe, maybe diabetes type 1.

FrozenVent fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Aug 8, 2014

Fish Shalami
Feb 6, 2005

What is shalami?

lightpole posted:

Never ever sail tankers except Chevron.

Matson BBQs before Hawaii are tits. Had to drag my relief out of his bunk several times. Maersk is dry and the captains didn't like to leave the ship but chiefs and 1sts wanted beer and would let you know how to get it or get it for you. APL is wet as well with the same tolerance as Matson. However when I was a cadet on APL the 2nd got called out for arrival at 0dark30 and hit his toe on something when he got up and hurt it. When he went to get it looked at the captain just tested him and sent him back to work. If someone doesn't like you on such a ship they can have your room searched and you tested at the worst possible moment which is something to keep in mind.

The APL ship I was on last, the Reefer/Electrician drank roughly a case of beer a night. I wish I was joking. I think he spent a couple grand on his slop chest bill by the end of the voyage. The guy was absolutely hilarious though.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Well, that's poo poo. I just found out that one of the cadets I went through school with was killed in a car accident in Mauritius at the end of October. Rest in peace, buddy.

magpie
Apr 28, 2006

Two Finger posted:

Well, that's poo poo. I just found out that one of the cadets I went through school with was killed in a car accident in Mauritius at the end of October. Rest in peace, buddy.

That's a real shame, sorry. Was he on shore leave or signing on/off? Agents seem to drive as fast as possible between the ship and the airport.

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Thank God we subcontract out all transportation. If I had to be a glorified taxi driver I would drink more (than I already do). That said, whenever I have a crewman (or even the old man) ask for a ride somewhere, I usually say "Sorry, insurance regs won't allow it. Here's a number to call for TWIC escort/taxi." Unless I like the guy. But that rarely happens in as much as I just want to get the gently caress off the boat because I've got any number of things more important than making sure they get to go shopping.

Back in the day, like 15 years ago, the agent would get fired for not taking the captain ashore and being at their beck and call. Now, unless I'm specifically working for the owners (usually working for the charterers), not my problem. And even if I'm working for the owners, no where in the appointment does it say "errand boy". Owners agency work is mostly done remotely anyway and using subcontractors/vendors for the crew changes, spares delivery, etc.

Right now, I have three boats in dry dock/shipyard with a fourth on the way. Kill me now.

edit: To clarify a bit so I don't come across as a complete prick that's insensitive to the crew since you guys are mariners...Stand by for :words:

You probably know that at any different time, we (agents) have any number of ships under our control at any given time. It's awfully hard to get vested in the interests of the crew when you barely know your own name much less have the time to be 'friendly' with the crew/officers that you'll likely never see again. The other side of the coin is that owners have continually refused to appoint agents for owners matters (or just generally to assist with the welfare of the crew) and when they do, the rates they want to pay us are absolute poo poo; wanting Mercedes white glove service while paying Yugo rates.

Now, I get paid the same no matter what the company I work for gets paid, so you'd think this doesn't matter to me. But it does - it probably shouldn't, but it does. That said, it mostly comes down to a "time" thing, or lack thereof.

Plus, in this day in age with seemingly everyone having a lawyer on speed dial, if anything happens while you're in my 'care', you become my and my company's responsibility. So, if we're not paid to attend owners matters, I can't really do much for you, even if it's convenient. It mostly depends on who is paying the bills.

Tide fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Dec 3, 2013

Polikarpov
Jun 1, 2013

Keep it between the buoys
Diego Garcia status: boring with a side of dull. The only perk is we go fishing over a nearby seamount on our bi-monthly steaming exercises and catch all kinds of delicious fish.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Did everyone see that video of the guy getting rescued after two days inside a sunken boat?

Because that is :stare: on so many loving levels.

afen
Sep 23, 2003

nemo saltat sobrius
Nice weather in the North Sea today, we're in port, and the wind sensor registered 66 m/s gusts earlier today.

Tide
Mar 27, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

FrozenVent posted:

Did everyone see that video of the guy getting rescued after two days inside a sunken boat?

Because that is :stare: on so many loving levels.

You talking about the story about the tug that capsized (and sunk!) and he managed to stay alive in air pockets? To top that off, when the divers went down to collect the bodies, the survivor grabbed one of the divers by the arm - understandably freaking him out.

Yeah, that's pretty much peak insane right there.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Tide posted:

You talking about the story about the tug that capsized (and sunk!) and he managed to stay alive in air pockets? To top that off, when the divers went down to collect the bodies, the survivor grabbed one of the divers by the arm - understandably freaking him out.

Yeah, that's pretty much peak insane right there.

The dive video got leaked, it's all over youtube. Diver must have crapped his suit, holy poo poo.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
So apparently warships have their frames numbered from the stem heading aft, I've always seen frames numbered from the rudder post (Or whatever) heading forward, with everything aft of the rudder being negative.

Am I going nuts or do they use a completely different standard?

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe
Last day of finals. Gonna wear a non-regulation belt like a rebel. (it's 13 degrees out no one's gonna see my belt :smith:)

edit: approved to test starting Monday 0745!

shovelbum fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Dec 11, 2013

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
Pass them all the first time around like the cool kids.

Head to the MEBA hall when you are good to go and get a physical or do that now so you can ship when your license comes. There have been some decent jobs that are open and you want 30 days covered employment and to start working on your group status ASAP.

Fish Shalami
Feb 6, 2005

What is shalami?
I'd really like to pick up a ship from the Oakland hall after New years, except I can't really take any job without first giving my two weeks notice at this office job. Not sure if I want to subject myself to the whims of the hall again...

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
Take a leave of absence or something. I keep getting offers from my friends for a job in the city and rigs, Ensco, Noble, Sea drill, Maersk and whoever else all need people if you don't want to go to the hall. Anytime I've been there there have been a lot of decent jobs open board so you should do alright.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





I've been back two weeks and already one engine tripped off the board when it dumped its cooling water everywhere (and drat near blacked us out) and then we had a fire the next night. gently caress.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Two Finger posted:

I've been back two weeks and already one engine tripped off the board when it dumped its cooling water everywhere (and drat near blacked us out) and then we had a fire the next night. gently caress.

Seems like your life gets exciting about 42 minutes a week on average, 23 weeks a year. Have you considered that maybe you're a character in a TV show?

Current Great Lakes status: poo poo's frozen.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
I think I've found a very important resource for all you seaworthy/lakeworthy professionals: How to Avoid Huge Ships.

There are some positive reviews:

Cap'n Crunch posted:

Now I know what that steering wheel thingy is for

This book really is one of the best huge ship avoidance references I've come across, not just for the effective methods it teaches as to avoiding huge ships, but also for exploding some of the huge ship avoidance myths that many of us take for granted.

For example:
- Do not charge the huge ship at full speed in an attempt to scare it off. This may work with coyotes, but it is less effective with huge ships.
- Similarly, do not roll your boat over and play dead. Unless the huge ship is captained by a grizzly bear, this will not work.
- Do not attempt to go under the huge ship. This is typically not successful.
- Do not attempt to jump over the huge ship.

Captain Trimmer presents a rather novel technique for avoiding huge ships - move your boat out of the path of the huge ship. I know what you're thinking, this goes against conventional wisdom, but Trimmer presents significant empirical evidence to support his theory. Indeed, over the long run, moving out of the way will dramatically decrease the number of huge ship collisions you will have to endure in your daily life.
...as well as some not so much:

Dan posted:

TOO Informative.

Read this book before going on vacation and I couldn't find my cruise liner in the port. Vacation ruined.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

I think I've found a very important resource for all you seaworthy/lakeworthy professionals: How to Avoid Huge Ships.

There are some positive reviews:

...as well as some not so much:

I really want to find this whole thing funny, but I've had enough near-misses with pleasure boaters that I just get angry.

Seriously someone should mod a t-shirt cannon to shoot copies of this book because there are people out there who really loving need to read it.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Merry Christmas to everyone who's away from home today. I got extra bunkering duty from Santa :(

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Merry Christmas to everybody who's shipped out, do happy to have made the office move right now.

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe
Merry Christmas thread

I wish I was shipped out, I'm sitting here waiting for the USCG to send me a license for Christmas!

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

shovelbum posted:

Merry Christmas thread

I wish I was shipped out, I'm sitting here waiting for the USCG to send me a license for Christmas!

You have already made some extremely bad decisions to get to this point, there's no reason to compound the situation.

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


I finally finished reading this thread. I don't really know why, though the work does sound a bit enticing. Already in college for a good degree right now though, so I'll save the academy for when I hit my mid twenties rut. Keep up the good sailing guys!

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe

lightpole posted:

You have already made some extremely bad decisions to get to this point, there's no reason to compound the situation.

Par for the course for my loving life, might as well go all in :getin:

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

shovelbum posted:

Par for the course for my loving life, might as well go all in :getin:

So you're planning to marry Joanna McBumfuckloadport at the first opportunity and have your paychecks deposited to the joint bank account?

Polikarpov
Jun 1, 2013

Keep it between the buoys

FrozenVent posted:

So you're planning to marry Joanna McBumfuckloadport at the first opportunity and have your paychecks deposited to the joint bank account?

If by first opportunity you mean "After five or six aborted relationships with east asian buy-me-drinkee girls who totally loved me for real, man". :airquote:

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Azipod posted:

If by first opportunity you mean "After five or six aborted relationships with east asian buy-me-drinkee girls who totally loved me for real, man". :airquote:

We don't have those on the lakes... It's basically Honey Boo-boo extras as far as the eye can see.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
I don't know what you are talking about. I have fallen in love with every East Asian I have met and we have had a long, meaningful relationship every time. Pretty much the definition of true love.

Edit: I remember the QMED explaining to the cadet the difference between sea pussy and land pussy... It doesn't take long for the trolls to pretty up.

lightpole fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Dec 27, 2013

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe

FrozenVent posted:

We don't have those on the lakes... It's basically Honey Boo-boo extras as far as the eye can see.

I was warned about the predatory ladies of Rogers City. On seeing them I was not tempted.

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe
So with Gulf stuff, like OSVs especially, I hear about this that and the other thing for mates, but I barely hear about engineers down there. I feel like I could tell a mate from memory what company has what and where to go look for a job, but do those guys hire engineers? What is there engineering manning like? What does an OSV engineer DO? I feel like I should at least ask about this before I go sell my soul to MEBA.

I figure its either MEBA or OSVs since the drillers don't recruit out of GLMA at all because the school refuses to deal with anyone who isn't a Lakes company (none of which really ever hire much)

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

shovelbum posted:

Lakes company (none of which really ever hire much)

You sure that's a bad thing?





loving loving the office life right now.

FrozenVent fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Jan 2, 2014

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
You would just be chilling on a large tug. I think they have a lot of HP so you would get license time from it, they pay pretty well. Depending on the company you could be the one college educated liberal Yankee on a ship full of LA rednecks. Chouest is always looking for people and has a pretty decent rep. I don't remember the others. If you just want to get paid right away for several years and then go shoreside go OSVs. If you are looking for something more like 10-20 years at sea join the union, get your 1sts and reevaluate the employment climate.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
Seriously though, never leave shore.

Fish Shalami
Feb 6, 2005

What is shalami?

lightpole posted:

Seriously though, never leave shore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKTN5NHfwlQ

My hopes of returning to sea have been stymied after most likely tearing a meniscus in both my knees. Awesome.

Has anyone else who went to KP received a nasty gram from MARAD recently?

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
What did it say?

flashman
Dec 16, 2003

Twenty three meter max and 100 knots offshore the weekend. They need mates ashore.... Right?

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Trench_Rat
Sep 19, 2006
Doing my duty for king and coutry since 86

shovelbum posted:

So with Gulf stuff, like OSVs especially, I hear about this that and the other thing for mates, but I barely hear about engineers down there. I feel like I could tell a mate from memory what company has what and where to go look for a job, but do those guys hire engineers? What is there engineering manning like? What does an OSV engineer DO? I feel like I should at least ask about this before I go sell my soul to MEBA.

I figure its either MEBA or OSVs since the drillers don't recruit out of GLMA at all because the school refuses to deal with anyone who isn't a Lakes company (none of which really ever hire much)



when I did OSV's in the north sea and barents sea we were in the engine. Chief, 2nd, and 3rd (me) 2nd and 3rd split the manning shift of the ECR and we only did maintnance during day time when the chie) was in the ECR and not on DP operation. When in port all of us switched to day shift and did maintnance we had not had time do while in transit/DP operation. These were modern ships (mid to late 2000s) with diesel electric propulsion and LNG dual fuel engines.


edit:

Chouest is getting a new construction vessel


http://gcaptain.com/edison-chouest-offshore-to-build-first-x-bow-in-u-s/






Trench_Rat fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Jan 6, 2014

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