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VitalSigns posted:Got this one. Whether Coulter is sincere or not, her rhetoric is basically LIBERAL = EVIL, CONSERVATIVE = GOOD, with no trace of nuance or self-awareness or anything. In her fictional world, anything liberals accomplish must be by underhanded means that all good people despise, and she can't conceive of (or at least won't admit that there are) actual Americans supporting the ACA because they understand it and think that it will accomplish something positive.
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VitalSigns posted:That poo poo bothers me too, like the gay jokes about Michelle Bachmann's husband or Rick Perry. "I don't always support LGBT rights, but when I do I prefer to make that clear by using gay and transsexual as insults!" It's sad seeing how many supposed liberals or progressives are just Democratic Party tribalists, really.
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Guilty Spork posted:Whether Coulter is sincere or not, her rhetoric is basically LIBERAL = EVIL, CONSERVATIVE = GOOD, with no trace of nuance or self-awareness or anything. So, she's Andy Schlafly?
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Mister Bates posted:Yeah, when this has actually happened in the past (more frequently than some people realize), the answer to the question 'what will the Army do if ordered to fire on American civilians?' has usually been 'fire on American civilians'. When you send in the military to deal with a protest or riot, historically their tactics have basically boiled down to 'shoot everyone until the remaining protestors go home'. Army Aviation even dropped bombs on black neighborhoods during the 1921 Tulsa race riots.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:The US military once fired on US military veterans. So, uhh...about that. Ah the Bonus Army. Thanks Hoover, another part of your grand presidential legacy.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:The US military once fired on US military veterans. So, uhh...about that. MacArthur and Patton  quote:Joe Angelo, a decorated hero from the war who saved Patton's life, approached him the day after to sway him. Rather than accept and listen to the man whom he had decorated himself for his bravery under fire, Patton coldly rejected him and stated "I do not know this man. Take him away and under no circumstances permit him to return." This episode was said to represent the proverbial essence of the Bonus Army, each man the face of each side; Angelo the dejected loyal soldier, Patton the unmoved government instrument unconcerned with past duties. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Dec 5, 2013 |
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Dec 5, 2013 06:19
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VitalSigns posted:That poo poo bothers me too, like the gay jokes about Michelle Bachmann's husband or Rick Perry. "I don't always support LGBT rights, but when I do I prefer to make that clear by using gay and transsexual as insults!" It's hard sometimes because, growing up, I never gave a second thought to using gay as a pejorative. Now that I'm older and understand that the way we use words have an effect on the people around us, I make a concerted effort not to do it, but it still happens. I've been an atheist for as long as I can remember (according to my buddy's memoir, since we were little kids), but I'll still say "god damnit" and "Jesus Christ" when upset. I imagine that our grandparents experienced the same thing with desegregation.
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I'm starting to see a lot of stuff about an Argentinian Womens' rights protest that got way out of control. Anyone know if there's more to the story or context?
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Dec 5, 2013 12:26
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I'm starting to see a lot of stuff about an Argentinian Womens' rights protest that got way out of control. Total bullshit. Yes, there's a video but it's totally contextless and looks like footage from multiple locations strung together.
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Any Spanish speakers in here got anything to say about how prevalent poo poo like is seen in this thread is among spanish speakers?
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Dec 5, 2013 14:17
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My token liberal older cousin is posting true patriot poo poo and grandmas with guns garbage on Facebook. I guess it's proof that Florida really is the worst.
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My former high school counselor has an anti-fast food worker post on her page. The comments are dickish has all hell:  Suburban teachers making fun of someone for wanting a living wage 
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Dec 5, 2013 16:27
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In my experience a good deal of teachers (at least in the Northern Virginia area) are right wing as hell since they are married to guys that are fairly well off so they don't have to live on the salary they earn by themselves and see a lot of their coworkers as lazy union types. Of course that anecdotal as hell but being an underpaid teacher isn't indicative of leftist leanings.
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What do people mean when they say "it's meant to be an entry-level job"? Like the Job Creator decided to start his business and said "I have a great idea! all of my workers will be teenagers working their first jobs!"
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mlnhd posted:What do people mean when they say "it's meant to be an entry-level job"? Like the Job Creator decided to start his business and said "I have a great idea! all of my workers will be teenagers working their first jobs!" It's almost as if they're out of touch with reality, and think what applied 20-30 years ago still does now!
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Dave Ramsey, who I generally find tolerable and even insightful at times, was talking about being poor in America the other day, and he acknlowedged that there are systemic issues, but he also feels that personal choice is a big factor. Okay, I am willing to listen. His argument was that when he was younger and poor, he was never above any kind of work and would go around offering to mow and rake leaves and that sort of thing to make ends meet. He also mentioned that he would never accept the minimum wage as pay because it's just not enough money to live on and the reason it's fair to be so low is because it's for part time high school kids. It's like if he would spend a day trying to earn money raking leaves in 2013, all the other puzzle pieces would fall into place and he would stop having some of the stupid beliefs he does. It's not the rich out of touch people that are the most frustrating, though, it's the people who are living poor and know these ways to make money aren't viable anymore that then still vote for the guys espousing the beliefs that poor people just need to spend more time painting fences in the neighborhood until they are out of the hole.
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People like that don't understand the difference between a person and people. Sure a person can get a better job or work on the side but people cannot as there are not enough "good jobs" for everyone to go out and get one so people will end up stuck and Wal-Mart and McDonalds therefore those people deserve to make a living wage as well.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:His argument was that when he was younger and poor, he was never above any kind of work and would go around offering to mow and rake leaves and that sort of thing to make ends meet. The working poor would definitely be people I would expect to own and operate gardening tools.
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Uugh another former teacher just commented "how about getting an education!!" this is after someone else pointed out that 400,000 college grads work fast food
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Dec 5, 2013 18:59
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Radish posted:In my experience a good deal of teachers (at least in the Northern Virginia area) are right wing as hell since they are married to guys that are fairly well off so they don't have to live on the salary they earn by themselves and see a lot of their coworkers as lazy union types. Of course that anecdotal as hell but being an underpaid teacher isn't indicative of leftist leanings. I taught for many years in a suburban area and it was about 50/50. There was a big divide in our staff between the people who depended on our salaries to pay rent and survive and the other half who spent it at Talbots and the local medspa. It was really infuriating because you can probably guess which side was more inclined to conservative politics. In the urban school I work at now, the staff is almost all left leaning.
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mlnhd posted:What do people mean when they say "it's meant to be an entry-level job"? Like the Job Creator decided to start his business and said "I have a great idea! all of my workers will be teenagers working their first jobs!" I've been having this argument on Facebook. It basically boils down to "If they want better pay, they need to get the skills and go get a better job" combined with aggressively ignoring the 14% U6 unemployment rate indicating that there are not enough better jobs out there for the people who are qualified for them. I've also been getting literal Victorian bullshit that the poor will just waste the extra money anyway. I can post screenshots if anyone is actually interested in reading awful poor-hating arguments followed by indignation when they get called out for the callousness of said arguments.
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VitalSigns posted:I've been having this argument on Facebook. It basically boils down to "If they want better pay, they need to get the skills and go get a better job" combined with aggressively ignoring the 14% U6 unemployment rate indicating that there are not enough better jobs out there for the people who are qualified for them. Absolutely, dude. Name and shame is pretty well the point of this thread.
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PUGGERNAUT posted:Uugh another former teacher just commented "how about getting an education!!" Heh. I'll bet they majored in something utterly useless like English or History and not  Humanities majors don't count as *real* educations anyway, since I totally used to bullshit my English class in high school and still got a B.
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Dec 5, 2013 21:08
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ProperGanderPusher posted:Heh. I'll bet they majored in something utterly useless like English or History and not She's an English teacher  I dunno why this bothers me so much. I guess it's because some of the kids in my graduating class are working fast food, even after getting their associates or bachelors degree, and I bet seeing those posts would really sting. Imagine realizing your guidance counselor doesn't even believe in you anymore
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Dec 5, 2013 21:12
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ProperGanderPusher posted:Heh. I'll bet they majored in something utterly useless like English or History and not
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PUGGERNAUT posted:She's a theater teacher Post that as a guidance counselor she failed those kids and if she wasn't in a cushy government job and instead working for the private sector she would have already been fired.
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VitalSigns posted:Got this one. Yes, I am sure. I knew her personally, a long time ago. She spewed the same poo poo before she became famous that she does now. edit - she did it to piss us off, and it worked predicto fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Dec 5, 2013 |
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CommieGIR posted:Ann Coulter is just another empty headed propaganda tool like Michelle Bachman, Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, and others. She's not empty headed at all. She is calculatingly riding the wave of her own obnoxiousness. Bachmann and Palin are genuine dumbshits. Cruz and Coulter are not dumb. They are shameless pandering scum working their selected audience.
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predicto posted:Yes, I am sure. I knew her personally, a long time ago. She spewed the same poo poo before she became famous that she does now. Any stories?
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Dec 5, 2013 21:55
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VitalSigns posted:Any stories? Nothing that would entertain. We lived right next to each other in a law school dorm. So we spent a lot of time arguing. I seem to recall her letting it slip that she was going to use Dinesh D'Sousa to get connected into the right wing thinktank world. Poor old Dinesh thought it was love.
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predicto posted:She's not empty headed at all. She is calculatingly riding the wave of her own obnoxiousness.
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Dec 5, 2013 22:30
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On Ted Cruz's Facebook page, unedited because it's public.  This is the number three top rated comment.
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Dec 5, 2013 22:48
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Pretty much. Pushing policy that you know is harmful or hateful even though you don't believe in it to make tons of money makes you a monster, not some kind of neutral person that's just doing a job. EDIT: goddamn people are stupid as hell.
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predicto posted:She's not empty headed at all. She is calculatingly riding the wave of her own obnoxiousness. Did you miss the not-filibuster wherein Cruz compared the GOP's response to the ACA with the guy who refused to try Green Eggs and Ham as if he thought that makes the GOP look reasonable and prudent instead of like the petulant children that Seuss was representing? A man who gets confused by children's stories is a dumbshit, and if you look at who is the governor of Texas it should be obvious that being a total idiot is no obstacle to getting elected to anything in my state. 
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VitalSigns posted:Any stories? Oh, here's one thing. She took up cigarettes, not because she liked smoking, but because she viewed it as a "politically incorrect" statement.
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VitalSigns posted:Did you miss the not-filibuster wherein Cruz compared the GOP's response to the ACA with the guy who refused to try Green Eggs and Ham as if he thought that makes the GOP look reasonable and prudent instead of like the petulant children that Seuss was representing? Yep. Texas politics has been dominated by dumbasses for almost two decades now, ever since the last of the cunning Dixiecrats passed on (RIP Bob Bullock) and Saint Ann Richards was defeated by GWB. The only good thing about this is that it's so easy to get elected as a Republican in Texas, any of our candidates who tries to go national gets flattened at the first hint of real opposition. (See: Rick "Oops" Perry) GWB was the exception to this rule, as he had the Bush clan national political organization and strategy behind him. Bush Senior actually helped temper the ultra-right craziness of the Texas Republican party in the 80s, and now that the Bushes and their crew are no longer involved in the state party, it's gone completely off the deep end into Cruz territory.
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VitalSigns posted:Did you miss the not-filibuster wherein Cruz compared the GOP's response to the ACA with the guy who refused to try Green Eggs and Ham as if he thought that makes the GOP look reasonable and prudent instead of like the petulant children that Seuss was representing? Don't kid yourself. He's not confused. He doesn't care if it makes sense to you or anyone else who has half a brain. He understands that bullshit like that connects with the shallow, petty assholes who make up the base of the GOP. He wants to be their king.
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predicto posted:Oh, here's one thing. She took up cigarettes, not because she liked smoking, but because she viewed it as a "politically incorrect" statement. I feel like she and other conservatives would have been perfectly fine buying newer LED lightbulbs, if only they weren't labeled as environmentally-friendly, and other such childish behavior.
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Tequila25 posted:On Ted Cruz's Facebook page, unedited because it's public. 650,000,000 / 315,000,000 = 2,000,000 Economics with Ray Goff.
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