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JediTalentAgent posted:On the subject of kids liking Revenge of the Nerds, I'm nearly 100% sure an episode of Clarissa Explains It All has her saying that her and her male friend (Sam?) were going to be watching it one night on VHS and it was their 'favorite movie' or something. I clearly don't remember half the horrible poo poo in this movie, but I am completely unwilling to watch it again. Though I would understand if they told him about the jocks dressing in hoods and burning their greek letters on their lawn. People in hoods burning poo poo on your lawn is pretty scary, especially if you're black. Unless that's a fever dream I had?
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After years of watching Revenge of the Nerds and National Lampoon's Vacation on TNT/Comedy Central, they made for some pretty awkward Blockbuster family movie nights. My dad ordered me to keep my eyes shut for a very long time while he dove for the remote during the surveillance scene. For some reason we kept watching to the end though.
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Dec 5, 2013 09:53
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Another irritating movie moment, courtesy of Man of Steel. Spoilers for the ending. Zod's blasting away at some random family about to vaporize em, and Superman is all GAHH NOOOO and Zod's all "I'M GONNA DO IT!" and Supes goes AAAAHHHHH NOOOO and snaps his neck. I don't have a problem with that ending. It could be better, but that's not my irritating point. My irritation comes from the fact that his eye beams should have wavered off into some direction from getting his head snapped around. Even if it was just for a moment, they should have had some burn marks going towards the ceiling or something. That just irritates me. The hosed up jump cuts are also weird and drag you out of the movie. Also, in the ending of Superman 2 where Superman destroys the Fortress, they show his heat vision laser beams going back into his eyes. I don't think they'd do that. I think the laser beam thing they had going would go towards the fortress and then stop. Not slowly fade out and back into his head. For the Man of Steel sequel, I am irrationally irritated that they are shoving 3 god damned extra characters into the movie. I dunno enough about the movie to say if it's gonna be good or bad or what, but Affleck as Batman is already kinda "eh", Kevin Smith somehow being involved with parts of it along with Frank Miller is a BIG "god dammit!" and the "let's shove every god damned character we can think of into this movie" is just lovely. Also, I am irrationally irritated that I laugh every time I hear Coulson say "With everything that's happening, the things that are about to come to light, people might just need a little old-fashioned. " cause where I grew up, that meant a hand job, and I am an immature 12 year old and still giggle at sex jokes.
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Dec 5, 2013 13:11
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Tokelau All Star posted:After years of watching Revenge of the Nerds and National Lampoon's Vacation on TNT/Comedy Central, they made for some pretty awkward Blockbuster family movie nights. My dad ordered me to keep my eyes shut for a very long time while he dove for the remote during the surveillance scene. For some reason we kept watching to the end though. My dad was a great enforcer of what movies he wanted us to watch as kids; Disney was fine when he wanted us out of the way, but goddamnit he would insure we grew up knowing classics. So he would have us watch a ton of Louis L'amour lovely movies and quiz us after. One movie he demanded we all watch was White Men Can't Jump. He had never seen it before, and my brother and I were bored shitless. Adults playing basketball and talking about things, great movie. But when the sex scene came on, my dad was somehow surprised and kicked us out of the room right off. Thankfully we didn't have to go back and watch the rest. Watching Watchmen with my mom, and that entirely unneeded sex scene that was way too long, was a bit similar.
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Dec 5, 2013 13:41
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Cowslips Warren posted:One movie he demanded we all watch was White Men Can't Jump. He had never seen it before, and my brother and I were bored shitless. Adults playing basketball and talking about things, great movie. But when the sex scene came on, my dad was somehow surprised and kicked us out of the room right off. Thankfully we didn't have to go back and watch the rest. Same thing happened when my dad thought it was time my baby brother saw Terminator and forgot that there is a part where Sarah Connor and Kyle Reese are not fighting the robot and have sex (violence is okay, boobs are not). I occasionally refer to movie sex scenes as "not fighting robots."
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Dec 5, 2013 13:55
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Modern Day Hercules posted:Who cares? What practical difference does that make? The point of the statement is that they would all be dead a little later on. The specifics on where their dead rear end souls were going didn't mean poo poo. If you want to be a real dick about it Hades isn't even right. The righteous and heroic went to Elysium. Which he makes a reference to just after the "unleash hell" comment anyway. "Stay with me! If you find yourself alone, riding in the green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled. For you are in Elysium, and you're already dead!"
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Dec 5, 2013 16:41
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MindlessHavok posted:Which he makes a reference to just after the "unleash hell" comment anyway. *That* line bugged the poo poo out of me, because *they'd* know that being in Elysium means you're already dead. The last clause is plainly tacked on for an audience that doesn't know what the gently caress Elysium is.
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Dec 5, 2013 17:05
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Phanatic posted:*That* line bugged the poo poo out of me, because *they'd* know that being in Elysium means you're already dead. The last clause is plainly tacked on for an audience that doesn't know what the gently caress Elysium is. Heck, it would even sound more natural if they switched the clauses around. "...For you're already dead, and you are in Elysium!"
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Dec 5, 2013 17:24
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Also, in the ending of Superman 2 where Superman destroys the Fortress, they show his heat vision laser beams going back into his eyes. I don't think they'd do that. I think the laser beam thing they had going would go towards the fortress and then stop. Not slowly fade out and back into his head. I haven't actually seen that movie, so I may be talking out of my rear end. If you see a laser beam, it is because it has interacted with the air/something in the air. Furthermore, what you can see depends on the intensity of the beam, which decreases with distance. If Supermans eyeballs were slowly cooling off, rather than shutting off immediately, you would expect the point where the beam becomes invisible to move toward him with time.
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Dec 5, 2013 17:42
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Chainsaw McGee posted:Same thing happened when my dad thought it was time my baby brother saw Terminator and forgot that there is a part where Sarah Connor and Kyle Reese are not fighting the robot and have sex (violence is okay, boobs are not). Which happens to be the least gratuitous sex scene in movie history. It's fun watching people rag on Gladiator for the language when the most irritating thing about it is the start, where Maximus takes a Roman legion into the woods and fights barbarian skirmishers using their own tactics. Had a Roman general really done that he wouldn't have lived to see the arena - he'd have been loving well crucified, and nobody would have thought it unjust.
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Dec 5, 2013 18:19
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Serious Cephalopod posted:I clearly don't remember half the horrible poo poo in this movie, but I am completely unwilling to watch it again. I...Holy poo poo I forgot about that. Seriously, this movie is absolutely reprehensible. (Fun Fact: The surveillance scene was the first place I ever saw a vagina in my life)
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Dec 5, 2013 19:32
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Serious Cephalopod posted:I clearly don't remember half the horrible poo poo in this movie, but I am completely unwilling to watch it again. No hoods, there is just a flaming "NERDS" sign in their lawn. It is, of course, 100% supposed to equate to with the Klu Klux Klan because there is literally not a single redeeming character in that entire shitfest of a film except maybe characters who have a single line. Even the boy's nerdy father is a total pervert creep in the like 45 seconds of screen time he gets.
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Dec 5, 2013 19:36
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Someone pointed this out to me once, and now I can't unhear it. Does anyone else think almost every line Bill Paxton delivers in a movie sound like it has been ADR'd? It seems really noticeable in Predator 2 and True Lies. I know ADR happens in every movie ever, but it seems to happen alot to Bill Paxton.
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Dec 5, 2013 20:37
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I was under the impression that pretty much every line in every film is ADR.
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Dec 5, 2013 20:54
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ducttape posted:I haven't actually seen that movie, so I may be talking out of my rear end. That does make sense. It just bugs me. Plus he has a total  face going on at the time. Doesn't help matters.
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Dec 6, 2013 01:24
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Another irritating movie moment, courtesy of Man of Steel. Man of Steel: Why the gently caress didn't he cover his eyes or PICK HIM UP AND FLY OUT OF THERE? Hell, for that matter, he already knew Zod was a dickhead before Zod understood his powers, so WHY THE gently caress DID HE TELL HIM HOW TO CONTROL THEM? These are rational irritations with that lovely, lovely movie, though.
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Dec 6, 2013 04:09
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Kruller posted:Man of Steel: Why the gently caress didn't he cover his eyes or PICK HIM UP AND FLY OUT OF THERE? Hell, for that matter, he already knew Zod was a dickhead before Zod understood his powers, so WHY THE gently caress DID HE TELL HIM HOW TO CONTROL THEM? I loved that bit during the Smallville fight: Clark is getting his rear end handed to him the entire fight and when he finally has an advantage he loving explains to Zod how to overcome his only weakness Speaking of Smallville the product placement during that scene is obnoxious. The worst offender is the lingering shot of Sears as the scene ends. That poo poo felt like it went on forever.
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Dec 6, 2013 04:36
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JT Smiley posted:I loved that bit during the Smallville fight: Clark is getting his rear end handed to him the entire fight and when he finally has an advantage he loving explains to Zod how to overcome his only weakness Could be worse. Could have been Stride Gum.
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Dec 6, 2013 04:41
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At the end of Return of the King the four hobbits are in the hobbit pub enjoying their beers. Except that Sam is holding his like a loving hipster! Hold it by the handle like everyone else, thats what its there for, you rear end!
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Dec 6, 2013 04:51
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If we're complaining about Man of Steel, then one thing that irked me was Clark being able to go toe to toe with kryptonian soldiers. Never showed he was a scraper at any point.
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Dec 6, 2013 05:25
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What annoyed me most about Man of Steel is that literally the only point of Lois' character is to have someone to go around exposition-ing back and forth with the other non-Superman characters, so that the audience is able to follow all of the dumb poo poo that happens and not question it. She even follows Clark around doing the same thing back and forth with him once her character is established, specifically just because the plot dictates it. Man of Steel was a poo poo movie and I regret paying movie ticket price to go see it.
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Dec 6, 2013 05:29
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Gaunab posted:If we're complaining about Man of Steel, then one thing that irked me was Clark being able to go toe to toe with kryptonian soldiers. Never showed he was a scraper at any point. Didn't he get his rear end kicked pretty much most of the time?. He landed some hits on the bad guys but only won the fights because the suits of the other guys broke. I'm not sure, i was pretty drunk when i watched it... Its not like it matters who gets hit how many times anyway as everyone is pretty much invincible.
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Dec 6, 2013 05:41
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Honestly that's my problem with Superman in general. He's like a fuckin' Twilight vampire these days. You can't kill him unless he's basically completely powerless, and he's not completely powerless unless you've got some kryptonite, which he can situationally just kinda ignore if he feels like it.
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Dec 6, 2013 05:51
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Superman is just a bad and uninteresting character unless you fundamentally alter him and make him a different hero that is not Superman.
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Dec 6, 2013 05:56
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Present posted:HBO's Rome did it really well in that respect. The syntax and specific words used were different from the way people speak today, it gave the show more authenticity, especially with how dumb the plebs sounded compared to the patricians. Rome did make effective use of received pronunciation vs. everyday lower class pronunciation. A great deal of dramatic license, though.
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Dec 6, 2013 05:59
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John Big Booty posted:Most of the main characters were plebeian. Cicero, Cato, Antony, Brutus, Octavian... it's a long list. That's not exactly correct. Most of those people were born plebian but spent a lot of time running around with patricians, and might as well have been patricians. Except for Brutus, he was straight up old money patrician. It's a safe bet that these people did not sound anything like a random prole off the street.
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Dec 6, 2013 06:32
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So today I saw Getaway. It gives me a good excuse to talk about the most annoying loving thing: fast cuts. There was a rather nice shot in the movie from a car's eye view of a chase. It lasted about 45 seconds and was the longest take in the film. In the rest of the movie no more than 7 seconds lapsed between cuts. I went through 6 minutes of 3-second cuts, which is not so bad when compared with the 5 and 6 second cuts that dominated the film. The overall effect was jarring. The real tragedy is that Getaway is a car chase movie - in all but maybe 8 minutes of runtime the lead characters are inside a car. However, the non-stop jump cuts to bizarre GoPro angles and facial close-ups disconnect the action so badly that every moment of the film is boring. The various cars and motorcycles may well be in another state, they seem so distant. At one point Selena Gomez screams "Oh no are you crazy don't do that!" immediately prior to Hawke driving off a ramp?/crazy obstacle - but the moment is more confusing than dramatic because we were never shown where in the gently caress he is driving. Towards a cliff? A zany collection of swinging axes? We don't know because the jumping cuts never flitted in that direction, and honestly the multiple cuts during the stunt made it impossible to tell what happened anyway. The basic conceit of the movie was to provide entertaining car chases, and it failed to deliver even the most basic and simple of action staples.
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Dec 6, 2013 08:50
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I saw Getaway too! And yeah it was pretty crap. I was irrationally irritated by Selena Gomez because her face is annoying and her character was a walking (passenger-side-sitting) ultracliche. The fast-cuts made me dizzy as they often do when I watch movies on the usual big screen. I figured it would be quick but jesus.
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FLEXBONER posted:Superman is just a bad and uninteresting character unless you fundamentally alter him and make him a different hero that is not Superman. Anyone who's at all interested in Superman (or super heroes in general) should watch Max Landis's short film The Death and Return of Superman.
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Dec 6, 2013 11:10
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Shai-Hulud posted:Didn't he get his rear end kicked pretty much most of the time?. He landed some hits on the bad guys but only won the fights because the suits of the other guys broke. I'm not sure, i was pretty drunk when i watched it... He did get his rear end handed to him a lot in the movie. Supes is a great character, but writers who understand why he's a good character are few and far between. It's weird, but Superman and Zod wreck about the same amount of a city that a 2 Kaiju and a Jaeger do in Pacific Rim. I'm not counting the world machine thing though, just Supes and Zod wailing on each other. It could have been a much better movie, but it was pretty good for a Superman movie. Remember Superman 3 and the computer of doom, or Superman 4 and the mullet of doom?
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Dec 6, 2013 11:45
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Tiggum posted:Anyone who's at all interested in Superman (or super heroes in general) should watch Max Landis's short film The Death and Return of Superman. That guy's level of smugness about Superman is irrationally irritating.
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Dec 6, 2013 11:57
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Pneub posted:That guy's level of smugness about Superman is irrationally irritating. My irrationally irritating movie moment is when the dickbag relatives of famous people get handed a directing gig because of nepotism. Especially when said famous person killed two kids due to his own shitheadedness. I liked Chronicle but everything I've seen Max Landis in makes me want to punch him right in the face. Or at least point out the similarities between Chronicle and Akira because apparently that makes him flip the gently caress out.
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Dec 6, 2013 12:00
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LeJackal posted:It gives me a good excuse to talk about the most annoying loving thing: fast cuts. I don't like quick cutting either, but it's come out of a change in audience attention span. Go back and watch a movie from the fifties, the cuts are so long it almost becomes uncomfortable because of what we're conditioned to today. There's a scene in some Denzel Washington thing, Man on Fire I think? There's a three-minute sequence that goes well over 100 cuts. We used to show it to student editors and ask them to count the cuts in the sequence (you can't).
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Dec 6, 2013 14:32
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Slim Killington posted:I don't like quick cutting either, but it's come out of a change in audience attention span. Go back and watch a movie from the fifties, the cuts are so long it almost becomes uncomfortable because of what we're conditioned to today. I suppose my love of old films from that period ruined me from childhood, because I like long cuts.
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Dec 6, 2013 14:43
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My favorite longer cuts are ones where characters walk through doors or w/e and the camera follows them through the wall (complete with cross-section of the wall they're passing through). I think the Naked Gun series even did a gag about that where the wall turned out to be fake and they just walked around it.
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Dec 6, 2013 14:45
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LeJackal posted:I suppose my love of old films from that period ruined me from childhood, because I like long cuts. I do too, but I find it depends on context and the style of film. Westerns, for example, would be ruined with quick cutting. Hitchcock's scenes seem to drag on uncomfortably at times, but at least his cuts are deliberate. I think there's both good and bad examples of both.
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Dec 6, 2013 14:51
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...of SCIENCE! posted:I liked Chronicle but everything I've seen Max Landis in makes me want to punch him right in the face. I'm kind of the opposite. I like Max Landis (from what I've seen of him on YouTube) but Chronicle really didn't do anything for me at all. Slim Killington posted:I don't like quick cutting either, but it's come out of a change in audience attention span. Go back and watch a movie from the fifties, the cuts are so long it almost becomes uncomfortable because of what we're conditioned to today. I don't think it's about attention span, it's about conveying information. Modern cinema is full of conventions that we're trained to recognise from a very young age, and older films don't have that luxury because they had to define the conventions, so modern films can condense things a hell of a lot more than older ones can. Because older films had to work with an audience that was already used to different formats (novels, radio plays, etc.) and build from there, but modern films are aimed at an audience that has known cinema all their life. And that condenses even further with stuff that's aimed at a media-savvy audience used to cinema and TV conventions.
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Dec 6, 2013 16:21
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I really preferred when the Matrix was big and everyone was doing slow motion action. It was way better than it now with any fighting just looks like everyone is flailing around.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:My irrationally irritating movie moment is when the dickbag relatives of famous people get handed a directing gig because of nepotism. Especially when said famous person killed two kids due to his own shitheadedness. Isn't he supposed to be irritating in that video? He's pouring scotch from a plastic bottle and brooding over superman. That's legit hilarious. I get what you mean about him other times. Chronicle stunned me, the only film to give me that "You Will Believe A Man Can Fly" moment, but the stuff Landis planned for the sequel just seemed laughably bad. The only good thing about Man Of Steel was how they avoided blurring too much in the fight scenes. They felt properly inhuman, not just humans sped up to super speeds. Instead of looney-toons style spinning legs the Kryptonians looked like they were just pushing off the ground and skidding to a halt. I really dug how comic bookey it felt, like they were switching poses between panels.
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