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Dolemite posted:One little trick I was taught in the boxing class (which is really how to adapt boxing to Muay Thai) is that you can try slapping/knocking down your opponent's lead hand and then punch them in the face during the confusion. I love the swat. Theoretically, I would say it's a game changer in Muay Thai because of the swat-elbow (even though you can't really do it in light sparring). For example:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySoU0d0Qbok&t=74s. Dude's standing southpaw to his opponent's orthodox and is a little bit outside of kicking range, goes in, swats the lead hand, fakes a knee but comes in with a massive elbow for the KO. Dolemite posted:Anyways, so, how do you all deal with: Assuming this is Muay Thai, I would just clinch it, and do a throw or a sweep from there. It cuts into their rhythm and can be quite frustrating for someone who wants to fight at a particular range. I find that turtling up may work for novices, but when I got aggressive flurries from a professional-level MMA dude, he could work past the slips/blocks and eventually get in a hard one -- couldn't wear him out. If you got got really really good counters in, they might tone down the aggression for a more delicate approach. Dolemite posted:2) Guys that keep me away with teeps and kicks in general? If they're primarily using kicks/teeps, I think your strategy would be to stay out of their kicking range to assess the situation, then try to close the distance into boxing range at the right time and then go to (3) with Ligur's hooks + uppercuts, and possibly pulled knees strikes (the ones where you hit people with the inner thigh, rather than the patella). I think feigns would work well in these situations - stuff like superman punches, feign a teep but step in for a punch combo, etc would help you get the opportunity to close the ranger. In a longer match, you can additionally punish them at range with hard low kicks to the thigh after they spam their kicks/teeps to weaken their kicking power. Dolemite posted:4) Do you all actually do the catches in sparring? If so, I guess that's something that's just going to have to come with time and practice. I just find it difficult to catch if kicks connects more commonly at the hips than the waist and if your opponents are generally all shorter than you then you also might not find it that common. May be different at a higher level.
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Is this a cool place for some general absolute beginner questions? Because I don't have any clue what I'm getting into. My gf wanted to get into some kind of martial arts and she wants me to do it to. We live in South Korea, but I don't really care to learn taekwon do. I was thinking about finding some Kung fu or something but she got all excited about something called 특공무술, I guess it would be tukgongmusul, but I'm not sure really what it would be in English, she only knew the Korean. I couldn't find much in English (maybe because I'm not looking for the right English name?) so, anyone know what this is? Can you give me a basic rundown? Is it some Rexkwon do bullshit?
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BrainDance posted:Is it some Rexkwon do bullshit? BOW TO YOUR SENSEI.
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BrainDance posted:Is this a cool place for some general absolute beginner questions? Because I don't have any clue what I'm getting into. Just watch a class or two. I doubt anyone has heard from it. Watch for sparring, which is good; watch for kid black belts, which is bad. Etc.
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A brief google search shows that the english is something like "Special forces martial arts." In terms of context I guess it's the South Korean equivalent of Krav Maga. Whether or not it's worthwhile beyond that is way beyond my knowledge though. Also, an alternate english spelling is apparently Teuk Gong Moo Sool if wikipedia is anything to go by as a starting point.
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Combatives martial arts tend to be pretty terrible since they're designed around teaching soldiers how to fight, sort of, in about two weeks before they go back to shooting guns and hiking with heavy gear.
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Regarding catching teeps/other kicks during Muay Thai sparring, you should try to make it a task for yourself to try it during your sparring rounds. There's guys who can just catch kicks on instinct- i've never been one of those guys, so I have to focus hard on catching them. Let your partner throw a couple of teeps or roundhouses and block them, watch how they set them up. Most low level amateur guys (myself included) telegraph their kicks from a mile away. Hang back and watch out for the signs, then try to catch their kick- there's nothing more disrupting than getting your kicks caught. Most people stop their teep game almost entirely if you catch them a couple of times. And there's countless opportunities for great counters. My latest fascination in Muay Thai techniques has been with sweeps. I find it really hard to get the right angles, and since my feet are frail as gently caress, i often end up with toes or ankles hurting like hell. But man it's so satisfying to catch someone off balance and put them on their rear end. Sweeps and dumps are also the favorite thing our coach does when sparring. You can hear people loudly thumping on the ring floor anytime he's in there.
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She made me watch this video http://blog.naver.com/marsh811?Redirect=Log&logNo=40168249019&jumpingVid=40A64F22FAF11E8E01237E788E22A210D8B9 Just looked like a bunch of guys flailing around screaming but, I dunno anything, maybe that's just what martial arts are or something?
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BrainDance posted:She made me watch this video http://blog.naver.com/marsh811?Redirect=Log&logNo=40168249019&jumpingVid=40A64F22FAF11E8E01237E788E22A210D8B9 Looks like Korean wushu. That's actually pretty cool.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Looks like Korean wushu. That's actually pretty cool. Yeah. Probably pretty useless if your aim is to become good at fighting, but can probably be a ton of fun as general athletics and gymnastics training.
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BrainDance posted:Is this a cool place for some general absolute beginner questions? Because I don't have any clue what I'm getting into. At the very least I know there are a few quality MMA gyms in Korea. A friend of mine trains at UFC fighter Dong-hyun Kim's gym in Busan, and I think Korean Top Team is in Seoul somewhere. Korea is also pretty big on judo. The instructor I had in college was an Olympic competitor for South Korea. I would also think you could find boxing/kickboxing gyms fairly easily. But yeah, generally I think if you want to get good at fighting then most of the Korean martial arts (TKD, hapkido, that combatives thing, etc) probably aren't a good bet.
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BrainDance posted:Just looked like a bunch of guys flailing around screaming but, I dunno anything, maybe that's just what martial arts are or something? Martial arts are also about setting a montage to 80s style synth metal
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BrainDance posted:She made me watch this video http://blog.naver.com/marsh811?Redirect=Log&logNo=40168249019&jumpingVid=40A64F22FAF11E8E01237E788E22A210D8B9 Well, after seeing that it definitely looks like it borrows from TKD or something like that. Also it's a bunch of clips of some kind of demonstration team (teams?) that the school has put together. Basically as others have said, based on that you'll get a fair amount of physical prowess and fitness out of it. Combative use? Can't tell from that video. Go down to the school and check it out.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Combatives martial arts tend to be pretty terrible since they're designed around teaching soldiers how to fight, sort of, in about two weeks before they go back to shooting guns and hiking with heavy gear. Even more so I think they're designed to instill confidence and desensitize you to violence. Learning two weeks of technique and then trying to apply it under battlefield conditions is a joke. But training your soldiers to think of themselves as highly trained combat machines who won't flinch at stomping on some testicles, not a joke.
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BrainDance posted:She made me watch this video http://blog.naver.com/marsh811?Redirect=Log&logNo=40168249019&jumpingVid=40A64F22FAF11E8E01237E788E22A210D8B9 At 1:01 they do honest-to-God elbow drops. If that doesn't tell you all you need to know, then I've got nothing to offer. This is clearly the greatest martial art.
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Also duel nunchucks. It looks pretty awesome. If you wanted to learn something practical you could probably do it and maybe supplement it with 1-2 classes a week of boxing/mauythai? It looks like a great workout, but learning how to punch properly instead of flailing about would probably complete it.
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Well I'm gonna be doing it. I don't have much of a choice since she's the one fluent in Korean. So at least it's cool I guess. I'm more concerned with looking like a badass than having any actual real life fighting skill. And nunchucks and elbow drops sound pretty badass. Edit: I just wanted to take a yoga class. BrainDance fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Dec 6, 2013 |
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I,m gonna X-post from the grappling thread because I can Hey so one of my rashguard ended up teaching the point of no return in term of funkiness so I threw it in the garbage and am now in the market for a new one. I've usually just bought whatever I could find that more of less met the description of a rashguard, but I'd like to treat myself to a nice one. Ridiculous designs are a big plus (for example I think this is totally a good idea  and would probably have impulse-bought it if it wasn't out of stock)What are your favorite brands/why. Also good sellers if there are any (other than BJJhq which I will watch until my purchase is done) Thanks! (by the way it'S mostly to wear under a gi if that makes any difference) KingColliwog fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Dec 7, 2013 |
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drat, slept through open mat today and it turns out Thiago Alves showed up. 
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Kekekela posted:drat, slept through open mat today and it turns out Thiago Alves showed up. You in South Florida?
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He expended too much energy and got tired
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Dangersim posted:You in South Florida? Tampa
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Kekekela posted:Tampa Ah, was wondering cuz I'm only about 20 minutes from the main ATT, and my school also has an open mat on Saturday mornings.
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Doing a lot more sparring these days and my coach is recommending that I get headgear that has a bar across the face (mine has regular cheek pads). He says the pros all use them these days. Does it really make that much of a difference?
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Admirable Gusto posted:Doing a lot more sparring these days and my coach is recommending that I get headgear that has a bar across the face (mine has regular cheek pads). He says the pros all use them these days. Does it really make that much of a difference? I assume it affects your vision quite a bit
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BrainDance posted:She made me watch this video http://blog.naver.com/marsh811?Redirect=Log&logNo=40168249019&jumpingVid=40A64F22FAF11E8E01237E788E22A210D8B9 Holy crap. This rules. It's like tkd crossed with lucha libre. Staged or not, it's pretty impressive/dumb that at least one of those groups looks like they're practicing and eating those throws on hardwood.
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BrainDance posted:She made me watch this video http://blog.naver.com/marsh811?Redirect=Log&logNo=40168249019&jumpingVid=40A64F22FAF11E8E01237E788E22A210D8B9 Looks like the Wushu version of Haedong Kumdo. Let me guess. They also call it an original Korean Martial suppressed by the evil Japanese/Chinese?
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ImplicitAssembler posted:Looks like the Wushu version of Haedong Kumdo. Just had my wife translate. Supposedly it's the Special Forces Demonstration team.
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Dangersim posted:Ah, was wondering cuz I'm only about 20 minutes from the main ATT, and my school also has an open mat on Saturday mornings. Sup FL MMA buddy 
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We used a high speed camera to film some pad work and sparring in slomo today. It's incredible how much you can see about yourself! All the little flaws and giveaway movements come at you, it can be pretty harsh. We filmed one round of sparring which went great for me, then watching the video I could see that my defense is simply horrible. Well, at least my footwork was good
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New article on periodization for MMA: http://journals.lww.com/nsca-scj/Abstract/2013/12000/Periodization_for_Mixed_Martial_Arts.6.aspx The authors are against doing any long slow cardio work, which I disagree with. Otherwise not a bad article.
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Lt. Shiny-sides posted:New article on periodization for MMA: Requires subscription. Other than that, HIIT has been promoted as better for most sports for some time now.
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Yeah, but that shouldn't be coming from the scientific community. I don't expect the neighborhood PT to say any different right now. Sorry about the subscription. If you are a student you should have access otherwise handing out copies is  I believe.
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I thought recent research had long cardio increasing some performance factors that you don't get from HIT?
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Xguard86 posted:I thought recent research had long cardio increasing some performance factors that you don't get from HIT? This is like the deepest swamp ever. I never feel I actually know what anyone should do when trying to gain something on something anymore. Ok, if you want to increase your raw strength, and are starting from pretty much not lifting at all, do the 5x5 or such for a while like 3 or 4 months. Never heard anyone disagree with that (even though that must be only because I've never seen one do it). But as for training for a fight in striking, HIIT or run? Or both? Spar a lot, or concentrate on short technique drills? Both? Depending on what? Lift something, or don't lift at all? All of that seems to change every three weeks 
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For the most part, until you reach a certain level of skill as long as you're working hard you don't need to have an optimal/optimized training program. Just consistently work hard. Also specifically regarding combat sports are not a contest of strength (and to a lesser extent conditioning). Strength helps but being the strongest != victory. You don't have to be the strongest, just be strong enough. Don't worry about lifting x% of your bodyweight or whatever over just being good at the sport you are trying to do.
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Xguard86 posted:I thought recent research had long cardio increasing some performance factors that you don't get from HIT? Exactly, but it easier to ignore that kind of stuff and so you end up producing the article above. I'm still trying to get a review out on long slow cardio but it is a slow process.
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Lt. Shiny-sides posted:Exactly, but it easier to ignore that kind of stuff and so you end up producing the article above. I'm still trying to get a review out on long slow cardio but it is a slow process. So what you're saying is cycling OP?
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hi liter posted:For the most part, until you reach a certain level of skill as long as you're working hard you don't need to have an optimal/optimized training program. Just consistently work hard. Oh yeah true for hobbyist/amateur level people, but they still sometimes ask "what should I do first to get fast results" and with all the stuff out there, all I can say is "work harder than the other guy". Like in amateur fights the person who wins is 90%+ times is the guy/girl with the better gas tank, and there seems to be a lot of ways to achieve it on that level, most of which consists of just doing: 1) your sport related drills 2) doing them more than your opponent And I'm fine with that. It's the honest work!
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