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-Blackadder- posted:I hope he plays a guy who initially teams up with Ollie and then he turns out to be KGBeast. There's no way they do that twice to the same guy. But it would be awesome.
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Deadpool posted:Well that was an odd tangent. This makes me impossibly happy.
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I was supremely pissed when he was killed off on Continuum so this is pretty awesome.
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Dec 9, 2013 00:43
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If it's who I'm thinking of, I enjoyed his appearance in Supernatural as Eliot Ness. His character (not the actor) frustrated the hell out of me on Continuum.
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He might've had abs ten years ago, but now??? I'm not buying it.
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Dec 9, 2013 01:15
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Yerp. Although that looks like a photo from his X-files days.
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Dec 9, 2013 01:16
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Drifter posted:He might've had abs ten years ago, but now??? The character he's playing doesn't need to be young. OH poo poo COMICS CHAT.
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Dec 9, 2013 01:16
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Rhyno posted:The character he's playing doesn't need to be young. But he'd need abs and delts. This IS Arrow we're talking about. 
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Drifter posted:But he'd need abs and delts. This IS Arrow we're talking about. He can keep his shirt on until he gets them.
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Rhyno posted:He can keep his shirt on until he gets them. Maybe the black oil will take care of it for him.  Maybe Mirikuru(miracle) ^-^ is DERIVED from the black oil!!!! 
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Dec 9, 2013 04:21
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Spergatory posted:So it sounds like the Flash's powers will be almost as dangerous to him as they are to his enemies, at least in the beginning. I like the sound of that. One, it means we are definitely not getting near-omnipotent!Flash any time soon. And two, it's not really something I've seen before. Movies and shows like this rarely explore the potential downsides of superpowers. It's all fun and games until you accidentally start a housefire with laser-vision. In the Flash show from the 90s I remember he was constantly eating because of his crazy metabolism (which I guess is a departure from comics? I don't think you're burning carbs with the Speed Force) and IIRC there was an episode or two where his powers were hosed up and causing him issues. I also distinctly remember them showing that he was fast enough to catch a bullet out of the air but it hosed up his hand/palm doing it, and I thought that was a nice touch. That suit, though. Oh god, the injection-molded muscles... 
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The speed force didn't show up until 1994. Barry never had to eat to fuel his speed. Prior to the SF Wally had to eat to maintain his super metabolism but when Mark Waid took over he started laying the foundation for the creation of the force and Wally drawing his power form it. That was an aspect they used for Barry in the show.
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Doesn't Ollie has those magic Yao-Fe cure any poison herbs? Why bring in Barry?
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bunnyofdoom posted:Doesn't Ollie has those magic Yao-Fe cure any poison herbs? Why bring in Barry? Felecity had no idea what he got injected with. It might have been glue for all she knows. Plus she doesn't know what the herbs are good for as Ollie's never really explained.
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^^^: This is better than mine.bunnyofdoom posted:Doesn't Ollie has those magic Yao-Fe cure any poison herbs? Why bring in Barry? He pulled out a little pouch of it once (was it for the Vertigo when he was trying to come up with an antidote?), but that may have been all he had left or something? 
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WarLocke posted:^^^: This is better than mine. He used them to cure Black Driver of the curae bullets. ERgo, Black Driver should know about them?
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bunnyofdoom posted:He used them to cure Black Driver of the curae bullets. ERgo, Black Driver should know about them? He may be aware of them but not enough to properly prepare a dosage that wouldn't cause additional harm.
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I could have sworn B Diddy had used those herbs on Oliver once for some reason. Am I misremembering?
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Habibi posted:I could have sworn B Diddy had used those herbs on Oliver once for some reason. Am I misremembering? poo poo, I think you're right. Also Habibi posted:B Diddy Holy poo poo. 
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Habibi posted:I could have sworn B Diddy had used those herbs on Oliver once for some reason. Am I misremembering? Also a curare bullet from Deadshot, right?
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WarLocke posted:Also a curare bullet from Deadshot, right? Yeah I think you might be right. It did strike me as odd at the time that they didn't just stuff him full of said herb, but maybe that's the thing - he couldn't chew/swallow it? Eh. Doesn't really matter that much.
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Habibi posted:Yeah I think you might be right. It did strike me as odd at the time that they didn't just stuff him full of said herb, but maybe that's the thing - he couldn't chew/swallow it? Eh. Doesn't really matter that much. If it needs to be ingested it could always go in your butt. It's pretty much the same thing as far as absorption into the system. 
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Drifter posted:But he'd need abs and delts. This IS The CW we're talking about. Fixed for you. Been reading another forum, where people are complaining hand over fist about Meta powers and taking this show away from the "grounded" nature of it. loving idiots. DC show, DC characters... DC powers. Get with the drat program. Thank jeebus for The TV IV > Arrow. Rocksicles fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Dec 9, 2013 |
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Drifter posted:If it needs to be ingested it could always go in your butt. It's pretty much the same thing as far as absorption into the system. Aaand that explains why they brought Barry in, instead.
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Rocksicles posted:Fixed for you. How dare these others for enjoying a grounded tv show on the basis of comics, and complaining if the show moves away from that basic premise. I'm not even sure how much superpowers we will see, so the complaints may be premature. But it is not like comic fans "own" the show, people who prefer a more down to earth approach (in comparison to outright superhero shows at least) have every right to be pissed if the show changes.
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Torrannor posted:How dare these others for enjoying a grounded tv show on the basis of comics, and complaining if the show moves away from that basic premise. I'm not even sure how much superpowers we will see, so the complaints may be premature. But it is not like comic fans "own" the show, people who prefer a more down to earth approach (in comparison to outright superhero shows at least) have every right to be pissed if the show changes. I for one love the idea of a show being 'grounded' for an extended amount of time before introducing supernatural elements. We never get it, though, because of these types who hate change and whine whenever the basic premise shifts. I'm looking forward to Arrow testing the approach out.
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I'm someone who prefers grounded superhero stories to the more outlandish high science fiction that occasionally becomes popular in the field. (Man of Steel was a proudly SciFi film - and suffered mightily for it) And certainly, I think its valid to get squeamish at the show heading into uncharted waters, even if those uncharted waters are precisely the reason this season has been so engaging. A few friends of mine have voiced the "I want the show to remain grounded!" concerns, and I usually end up defending the show decision to introduce superpowers. And my reasoning is a pretty simple one - We've never seen it before. In the comics, Batman stories usually take place in a world completely devoid of superpowers or one overflowing with craziness. That actual transition between "mobsters with guns" to "lady who controls Plants" has never really been attempted in an ongoing form whatsoever. A lot of great Batman literature is about that transition - Long Halloween comes to mind. But they've all been limited series, meant to slot into that accordion of mythology. Smallville actually started out with nice boundaries and organic explanations for powers - I'll defend the meteor shower as one of the few smart additions their creative team made. But the show so completely botched expanding the world out farther, into Metropolis and beyond. I'm rambling here, but I hope this isn't entirely incoherent.
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Rhyno posted:The character he's playing doesn't need to be young. Nobody knows the character that he's playing. That one post someone mentioned is literally someone guessing with absolutely no evidence to back them up. They may end up being right but if if they are it's a really lucky guess. The name of his character is not the name of anyone in the comics.
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Narcissus1916 posted:I'm someone who prefers grounded superhero stories to the more outlandish high science fiction that occasionally becomes popular in the field. (Man of Steel was a proudly SciFi film - and suffered mightily for it) And certainly, I think its valid to get squeamish at the show heading into uncharted waters, even if those uncharted waters are precisely the reason this season has been so engaging. This is exactly what I was saying. I want to see characters witness supernatural events and be shocked and unsettled right along with them. You don't get that from a show where the supernatural revelations come in the pilot and are the show's basic premise. A show going with sorta-realism for a full season and a half before introducing powers puts us in the shoes of the characters a lot better.
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Torrannor posted:But it is not like comic fans "own" the show The show is literally owned by comic fans.
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Narcissus1916 posted:Smallville actually started out with nice boundaries and organic explanations for powers - I'll defend the meteor shower as one of the few smart additions their creative team made. But the show so completely botched expanding the world out farther, into Metropolis and beyond. The got "good" again when it started adding DC Heroes and expanding outside Smallville. We are also talking about a world were there is an earthquake machine and other poo poo that is close to being supernatural anyways.
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Just finished Season 1. The balls on this show.
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Torrannor posted:But it is not like comic fans "own" the show, people who prefer a more down to earth approach (in comparison to outright superhero shows at least) have every right to be pissed if the show changes. 2/3rd of the creators of the show are comic writers.
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Narcissus1916 posted:I'm someone who prefers grounded superhero stories to the more outlandish high science fiction that occasionally becomes popular in the field. (Man of Steel was a proudly SciFi film - and suffered mightily for it) And certainly, I think its valid to get squeamish at the show heading into uncharted waters, even if those uncharted waters are precisely the reason this season has been so engaging. I don't disagree with the extrapolation on why going from an unpowered to powered universe over the course of a season is a good thing that has never been done before, but I do disagree with the (entirely subjective) that Man of Steel suffered by being SciFi. Of anything wrong with MoS, being about an alien from the planet Krypton was not the problem. But that is going to be the interesting things about the back half of season 2: we're going to be watching superpowers emerge into a world where they've been rather hidden/non-existent up to this point. It opens the door to the traditionally Marvel plot of normal people vs. metahumans.
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bobkatt013 posted:2/3rd of the creators of the show are comic writers. I reacted to someone who called fans who disagreed with the supposed move to more superpowers "idiots", it was merely a try to push back against the mentality that all non-comic reading fans of Arrow should piss off.
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Warmachine posted:But that is going to be the interesting things about the back half of season 2: we're going to be watching superpowers emerge into a world where they've been rather hidden/non-existent up to this point. It opens the door to the traditionally Marvel plot of normal people vs. metahumans. I look forward to the ever increasing amount of gimmick arrows Ollie needs in order to successfully fight superpowered people. Especially if they have fun with it instead of them all being serious
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You know, it boggles the mind that two of the show runners (Guggenheim and Berlanti) were behind the Green Lantern movie. WHY YOU COULDN'T BE EQUALLY AWESOME BACK THEN? 
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Deadpool posted:Nobody knows the character that he's playing. That one post someone mentioned is literally someone guessing with absolutely no evidence to back them up. They may end up being right but if if they are it's a really lucky guess. The name of his character is not the name of anyone in the comics. Okay well look at how many posts about the Flash, how he got his powers, who he is etc have been made and it's all knowledge gleaned from the comics.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:You know, it boggles the mind that two of the show runners (Guggenheim and Berlanti) were behind the Green Lantern movie. Maybe it was a learning experience for them?
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