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I captured the Caliph in battle, and then enforced my demands for victory. Then, he was immediately released? Come on, I should have at least been able to demand a huge ransom.
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RonJeremysBalzac posted:I captured the Caliph in battle, and then enforced my demands for victory. Then, he was immediately released? Come on, I should have at least been able to demand a huge ransom. Well, you can either release him in exchange for his surrender or for his ransom, just not both. (If you have already won the war and don't need the automatic 100% from imprisoning the enemy ruler, ransom him first then finish the war as normal.)
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Dec 9, 2013 02:09
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RonJeremysBalzac posted:I captured the Caliph in battle, and then enforced my demands for victory. Then, he was immediately released? Come on, I should have at least been able to demand a huge ransom. You released him in return for a ransom of territory, which is priceless.
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Dec 9, 2013 02:23
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NihilCredo posted:Well, you can either release him in exchange for his surrender or for his ransom, just not both. (If you have already won the war and don't need the automatic 100% from imprisoning the enemy ruler, ransom him first then finish the war as normal.) I admit that I was so happy at the prospect of not having to squash an endless wave of reinforcement from every Sunni leader around, that I just mashed the "enforce demands" button without really paying attention. I mean, I would have won, but look at that contribution from other people. He only contributed about 1/4 of the troops that I squashed. Also, I've had his wife in prison for about ten years. I wonder if they got see each other for a bit. 
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Dec 9, 2013 02:29
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RonJeremysBalzac posted:I captured the Caliph in battle, and then enforced my demands for victory. Then, he was immediately released? Come on, I should have at least been able to demand a huge ransom. Speaking of, just now I was near to losing a war for Jerusalem, but then I captured the Caliph's heir for 50% war score. Almost immediately afterword I killed the Caliph in battle, so the dude in my dungeon was now the Caliph. Thought about castrating him or executing him since he had no kids (but he had a few brothers), but decided to just take Jerusalem instead because my troops were already hurting pretty bad. I think I've really pissed off the Muslims now that I took Jerusalem and I'm kind of worried. e: whoops, looks like I gave the Duchy of Jerusalem to a mayor, and now its a vassal Republic. I don't think I should have done that. Baxate fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Dec 9, 2013 |
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Dec 9, 2013 04:53
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I think I just discovered the downside to the Strong trait. My last ruler was pants-shittingly senile for twenty five years before finally kicking the bucket. My first regent, my spymaster, was actually really nice. The most she did was donate cash to charity, but big deal, there's always more cash. My second regent, my marshal, started taking my baronies though so I needed to find a way to die. After spending close to five thousand gold on assassination attempts against the highest Intrigue skill wealthy men I could find in the hopes that they would counter-murder me I had killed a Caliph, a couple Emirs, several barons and mayors, and been wounded (but not killed) twice - once while also ill - at the age of seventy eight. Then, while desperately searching for the few rich opponents left I finally finally died in my sleep. The worst part was, not only did I outlive my awesome also Strong heir, but it wasn't that bad until that dick bag marshal started stealing from me. My electors still liked me well enough to vote for my heir after the two contenders I was worried about died in wars or from old age and I managed to conquer enormous amounts of land.
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Dec 9, 2013 05:06
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Ludwig van Halen posted:e: whoops, looks like I gave the Duchy of Jerusalem to a mayor, and now its a vassal Republic. I don't think I should have done that. Nonsense. Republics make great, loyal, taxpaying vassals. The only thing better than having a republic is being a republic. All I'm saying is, death to monarchs.
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Dec 9, 2013 07:12
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Caufman posted:Nonsense. Republics make great, loyal, taxpaying vassals. The only thing better than having a republic is being a republic. I guess the downside is that I get a negative opinion modifier for wrong government type. But yeah, he's paying me quite a lot of money already even though he still has the negative tax modifiers for new administration. And since I have no feudal taxation, he's almost the only vassal I have who pays me so thats nice. Baxate fucked around with this message at 07:59 on Dec 9, 2013 |
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Dec 9, 2013 07:55
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Ugh, just lost my game. After 300 years the Shadowing Dynasty was overthrown from the Kingdom of Wales (now consisting of nearly all of Ireland and a good chunk of England). Shadowvia, mightiest castle in all of Britain, held by the bastards. I could deal with the first revolt, but they then called in all my other vassals. Seriously, I had no chance.
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Dec 9, 2013 08:07
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Since CK2+ is no longer in development by Wiz, what's the go-to mod around here?
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Average Bear posted:Since CK2+ is no longer in development by Wiz, what's the go-to mod around here? Most people who play with mods are probably still using CK2+. The people who don't like the new features are just really really loud about it. The second most common mod seems to be Project Balance + VIET. I wasn't impressed with it ("sorry you can't holy war because you're slothful"), but you can give it a try if you don't like CK2+.
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Dec 9, 2013 13:22
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What does the title "XXX the Fowler" mean?
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Dec 9, 2013 14:36
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Annath posted:What does the title "XXX the Fowler" mean? You like birds.
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NihilCredo posted:Most people who play with mods are probably still using CK2+. The people who don't like the new features are just really really loud about it. What are some of the common complaints about CK2+? Or is there some place to read about it?
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Dec 9, 2013 14:53
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Trilin posted:What are some of the common complaints about CK2+? Or is there some place to read about it? lovely colours for one thing. Who had the idea to give Scotland yellow as a colour? Why would you give them anything but blue?  Many people also complain about the new map. And about the fact that most things are now integrated into the mod itself, rather then being sub-mods that you can activate or leave off.
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Dec 9, 2013 15:23
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Reveilled posted:You like birds. More specifically, a 15-year old, either hunter or falconer, who isn't infirm, incapable or blinded.
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Torrannor posted:lovely colours for one thing. Who had the idea to give Scotland yellow as a colour? Why would you give them anything but blue? Paradox?  In EU3 and EU4 Scotland's color is yellow.
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Beta patch is out!  http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?740256-Steam-Open-BETA-Patch-v2.0.2-now-live Rebalancing of event troops is probably what everybody was waiting for. Other highlights include a bunch of antipope stuff (including the CB straight out of CK2+) and fixes for maxirage's 25-year world conquest  . I've bolded the ones I think will have the most impact:quote:MAJOR NihilCredo fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Dec 9, 2013 |
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Dec 9, 2013 16:06
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Awww yesss!!!quote:- Added history command 'add_matrilineal_spouse'  That's going to be soooooooooooooooo useful!! Yay Paradox!!
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Dec 9, 2013 16:13
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quote:- Marriage, betrothal, and concubinage can no longer be arrange while imprisoned Does this mean you can't imprison someone and then force them to marry you? Because that's one of my winning strategies. Or is it just that you can't make marriage arrangements while imprisoned yourself?
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Dec 9, 2013 16:17
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Ironmod mode! (also script debugging, thanks Paradox!)
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Excellent. Especially the "Will always accept matrilineal marriage" part. Was infuriating to set up a betrothal where both sides are cool and then the AI goes "Naaaa, screw you!" a few years later.
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"- West African Pagans can no longer have higher CA than Low" Why.
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quote:- AI: Will now always honor the terms of an existing betrothal Thank Christ! Hardly anything was more obnoxious. Jeoh posted:"- West African Pagans can no longer have higher CA than Low" Because Paradox hates Africans.
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Boing posted:Does this mean you can't imprison someone and then force them to marry you? Because that's one of my winning strategies. Or is it just that you can't make marriage arrangements while imprisoned yourself? Yea what the gently caress. I love stealing away a Princess of France and taking her as a concubine, then having a kid who has a claim to France as a Mande!
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Dec 9, 2013 16:33
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quote:- AI: Will now always honor the terms of an existing betrothal  that seems enormously overpowered unless they will tone down how easily the AI will also accept martilineal betrothals.
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Sadly the rebel spawning fix came a bit too late in my Ironman game:
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Jeoh posted:"- West African Pagans can no longer have higher CA than Low" Does this mean "not even reformed West African Pagans can have higher CA than Low" or "oops we forgot to set the normal pagan CA limitation to apply to West African Pagans"? Dallan Invictus fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Dec 9, 2013 |
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Torrannor posted:lovely colours for one thing. Who had the idea to give Scotland yellow as a colour? Why would you give them anything but blue? Yellow is actually the traditional colour of the Kingdom of Scotland. It's the background to the royal standard and the royal residence at Stirling Castle was in late-medieval and renaissance periods painted bright yellow.
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Dallan Invictus posted:Does this mean "not even reformed West African Pagans can have higher CA than Low" or "oops we forgot to set the CA limitation to apply to West African Pagans"? I haven't yet updated but looking at crown_laws.txt from the old patch, only Norse/Tengri/Baltic/Finnish/Aztec/Slavic (unreformed) pagans are unable to choose medium CA, with no sign of West Africans, so presumably the latter.
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Hmm I might play again with this one. I wonder what the Jewish retinues and buildings are like and if they are worth playing. Probably something silly like light infantry with + to morale or something? At any rate I've been meaning to play the new Cathars with some woman equality.
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Yeah I'm really looking forward to this now that they've patched event troops and antipopes.
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Snatch Duster posted:Yea what the gently caress. It refers to arranging marriage/betrothal/concubinage, so I'm pretty sure it only refers to a ruler giving his assent to a courtier's marriage/betr/conc while he is in prison. Taking one of your own prisoners as a concubine doesn't ask for anyone's permission so I don't think it will be affected - especially since kidnapping noblewomen for your bed has its own unique mechanics (you get prestige and they hate your guts). NihilVerumNisiMors posted:Sadly the rebel spawning fix came a bit too late in my Ironman game: Personally I'm just never going to play Paradox games in ironman. There's way too much "wrong" stuff that can happen and require the console (or Notepad) to fix. And not even the potentially fun "oh, I'll roll with it" type of wrong. VVVVVV If it "really bugs" you all you have to change are three RGB values in landed_titles.txt. You can even copy them from the vanilla file to the CK2+ one. NihilCredo fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Dec 9, 2013 |
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Reveilled posted:Yellow is actually the traditional colour of the Kingdom of Scotland. It's the background to the royal standard and the royal residence at Stirling Castle was in late-medieval and renaissance periods painted bright yellow. And yet the national flag is a white cross on a blue field, when I think back to Braveheart (sorry!) i remember the blue paint for the Scottish warriors; and in every game in which I could play Scotland (Medieval and Empire Total War), they were blue. It just really bugs me and I don't know why it was changed. Patch notes are great, it will finally pay off to convert to one of the Jewish cultures. Or not, because horse archer retinues and special buildings are actually rather good. And I look forward to all traits being broken again because of the new "Battlefield Terrain Master" trait. 
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Torrannor posted:And yet the national flag is a white cross on a blue field, when I think back to Braveheart (sorry!) i remember the blue paint for the Scottish warriors; and in every game in which I could play Scotland (Medieval and Empire Total War), they were blue. It just really bugs me and I don't know why it was changed. Pretty sure the yellow is entirely on the basis of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Scotland#Royal_Standard_of_Scotland I'm having issues with the beta, launcher never shows up and it just leaves phantom entries in the task manager ah well, time to rollback.
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Does the event troop fix also tweak the way factions calculate their chances of success, or will we still have constant vassal rebellions? because that was the most annoying thing to me, moreso than the event troops themselves. Although I suppose the AI using spymasters against factions will help alleviate a lot of that, since my main complaint in that regard was every AI kingdom being forced by faction revolt into an elective monarchy within 10 years of game start.
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I wonder what this line means: - AI: Adjusted succession marriage reasoning Oh, and matrilinear marriages now possible (to be modded in) for Muslims. New heresy: The Muslim Sisterhood?
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Ok so the "AI will always honour betrothal" in the beta patch is currently a HUGE exploit since on marriage you can switch from regular to matrilineal (or viceversa) and they will ALWAYS accept. I've posted about it on the forums and hopefully it will be fixed before release, but in the meanwhile enjoy doing some ridiculously easy marriage conquests.
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So I've got a question about how to propagate your family throughout other realms other than inviting claimants to court and pressing the claim to get your heir on the throne later. I'm mainly interesting in seeing my family working with other countries rather than leading them. Say, being a duke or count in another realm or being a part of their council. It's mainly for roleplaying reasons since I think it would be cool as hell to see a distant cousin start a civil war halfway across Europe or giving the HRE trouble as a member duke. How would I go about putting my family members inside of a country and seeing them work up while still using the dynasty name? I get that I can marry them off to someone but it's always on the condition any children are not of my dynasty. I assume it somehow involves getting the desired person to go reside in someone else's court rather than mine? I remember playing on tutorial island and marrying off some family member or another (I don't remember the details unfortunately), but I do remember seeing Iberia becoming a huge mess of tyranny wars and succession crises and clicking on some of the participants only to see Ua Brian as the main instigator after a generation or so. After a while one of them just happened to grab the throne of Galicia. I'd like to replicate that on some level even though it may not result in my family turning into the Hapsburg's. Yar The Pirate fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Dec 9, 2013 |
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NihilCredo posted:Ok so the "AI will always honour betrothal" in the beta patch is currently a HUGE exploit since on marriage you can switch from regular to matrilineal (or viceversa) and they will ALWAYS accept. Honestly, I wish they'd kept the old behavior, but just made it so that the AI would actually break betrothals when circumstances had changed & they were no longer willing to honor the original terms. That would make them seem a bit smarter, to me.
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