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The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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The 28 incher is gonna be a TN panel though.

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Filthee Fingas
Jan 5, 2004
It's great being left handed..you can jerk off and still keep the mouse on the right side of the keyboard
Right so after trying a 27" IPS 1080p monitor and being unhappy with lack of pixels, I'm returning it for a 23/24" monitor.

What I need is a 23/24" monitor, 1080p, IPS. I would go with the dell u23 but I'm not a fan of the coating on it. Is there any comparable monitors with a glossy coating instead?

Rakins
Apr 6, 2009

Does anyone make a glossy IPS? I feel like those two won't ever be together

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004

Filthee Fingas posted:

What I need is a 23/24" monitor, 1080p, IPS. I would go with the dell u23 but I'm not a fan of the coating on it. Is there any comparable monitors with a glossy coating instead?

I just bought myself the Dell S2340m last night and I like it a lot. I've got it next to my old Acer S231HL and it's weird looking at one then switching to the other, but I'm hoping to get another Dell to replace that one soon. I'm a big fan of glossy screens and the color quality is amazing compared to my Acer.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

Rakins posted:

Does anyone make a glossy IPS? I feel like those two won't ever be together

Lblitzer posted:

I just bought myself the Dell S2340m last night and I like it a lot. I've got it next to my old Acer S231HL and it's weird looking at one then switching to the other, but I'm hoping to get another Dell to replace that one soon. I'm a big fan of glossy screens and the color quality is amazing compared to my Acer.

I'm a broken record and will say again that that yeah the Dell S series fills a nice role as an affordable glossy screen monitor with a near IPS quality screen, so I'd recommend that.

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf

Rakins posted:

Does anyone make a glossy IPS? I feel like those two won't ever be together

A large number of the Korean special 27" monitors are also glossy IPS. Or, if you hate yourself and your wallet, Apple monitors.

Filthee Fingas
Jan 5, 2004
It's great being left handed..you can jerk off and still keep the mouse on the right side of the keyboard

Lblitzer posted:

I just bought myself the Dell S2340m last night and I like it a lot. I've got it next to my old Acer S231HL and it's weird looking at one then switching to the other, but I'm hoping to get another Dell to replace that one soon. I'm a big fan of glossy screens and the color quality is amazing compared to my Acer.

Cheers for this. Fits the bill and just ordered. I know I've been spoiled with a 1440p but with my PC not as powerful to fully utilise it for games and me shifting to console gaming over PC gaming (want to hook this up to my PS4), it makes sense to move to 1080p.

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy

Ruin Completely posted:

I'm a broken record and will say again that that yeah the Dell S series fills a nice role as an affordable glossy screen monitor with a near IPS quality screen, so I'd recommend that.

I own two Dell S2240M that I got refurbished from Dell for $90 each. They are $120 brand new at Microcenter. But anyway there's nothing "near IPS"about them, they are the real deal IPS. I don't get why people spend more for the same specs because these are both crystal clear 1080p with no dead pixels or backlight bleed.

The only reason I'd use another monitor is if I could find a 1080p IPS that was 23"or smaller, but could also be overclocked to 120+ hertz.

Bob NewSCART
Feb 1, 2012

Outstanding afternoon. "I've often said there's nothing better for the inside of a man than the outside of a horse."

I'm trying to order the U2312HM off the Dell Canada website which is 80 dollars off right now but I just get an error thrown to me everytime I try to buy now or add to my cart or whatever.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

Zero VGS posted:

I own two Dell S2240M that I got refurbished from Dell for $90 each. They are $120 brand new at Microcenter. But anyway there's nothing "near IPS"about them, they are the real deal IPS. I don't get why people spend more for the same specs because these are both crystal clear 1080p with no dead pixels or backlight bleed.

There are still a few reasons to go with the Ultrasharp instead:
- AG coating (+ or - depending on preference)
- DisplayPort (only an advantage if you need it)
- Better stand
- USB hub

Zorilla
Mar 23, 2005

GOING APE SPIT

dissss posted:

There are still a few reasons to go with the Ultrasharp instead:
- AG coating (+ or - depending on preference)
- DisplayPort (only an advantage if you need it)
- Better stand
- USB hub

Also, no external power brick. The S2240M has a DC jack instead of an IEC power connector.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

dissss posted:

There are still a few reasons to go with the Ultrasharp instead:
- AG coating (+ or - depending on preference)
- DisplayPort (only an advantage if you need it)
- Better stand
- USB hub


Zorilla posted:

Also, no external power brick. The S2240M has a DC jack instead of an IEC power connector.

I guess none of that seemed worth the price difference to me (to be honest the stand is the only thing on that list that feels noteworthy, and even then it's not bad just not as good as the ultrasharps). Especially with the 24" models, the u24 is around $100 more than the s24, although in that case there is also the extra 120 pixels.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

whatupdet posted:

Anyone have any experience with any 21:9 models? I see a LG 29EA73-P Black 29" on sale at Newegg for $380 that is tempting, primary use is TV & movies.

I know this is an older post, but I have a 21:9 NEC and it's marvelous. They are all, according to reports, using the same panels, so you're really paying for features and different backlights.

Be aware that TV and movies will be the most frustrating things about them; the aspect ratio leads to pillarboxing along with letter boxing, unless you configure your media players to crop for the aspect ratio.

It's glorious for gaming though:

30 TO 50 FERAL HOG
Mar 2, 2005



Is there any way to run the Apple thunderbolt displays with a PC? I'm going to be picking up two of them for my rMBP and would like to also be able to use them with my desktop.

bobby2times
Jan 9, 2010
Any thoughts on the Dell U2713HM? Amazon on has it on sale for $584.99. I'm looking to upgrade to 1440p and was just wondering how this monitor stacks up.

WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no

dissss posted:

There are still a few reasons to go with the Ultrasharp instead:
...
So people have mentioned potential problems with the U2312HM. What would be the recommended Dell U23xxxx monitor these days? edit: or 21-23 inch, no need for more than 1080p in this situation.

WithoutTheFezOn fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Dec 9, 2013

Stanley Pain
Jun 16, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Wasabi the J posted:

I know this is an older post, but I have a 21:9 NEC and it's marvelous. They are all, according to reports, using the same panels, so you're really paying for features and different backlights.

Be aware that TV and movies will be the most frustrating things about them; the aspect ratio leads to pillarboxing along with letter boxing, unless you configure your media players to crop for the aspect ratio.

It's glorious for gaming though:




I wonder who was in your squad and who your bros were chatting about :allears:


NEC have some amazing monitors if you're willing to pay the price for profession level IPS panels (some of which have a polarizer coating). I'd never give up my 2690WuXI, even though it's now only my secondary monitor next to my ASUS 27inch PLS screen.

horchata
Oct 17, 2010
Has anyone used the monitor mounts sold at Monoprice or Amazon?

Mainly talking about these two
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=5402&seq=1&format=2

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_i=507846

If so, are they decent enough quality?

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy
Those will be fine, they are all really overbuilt for what they list as maximum weight. Remember, the mounting brackets are VESA standards so if your monitor has the mounting holes you can even use HDTV mounts.

I'd tend towards Amazon since almost all of the mounts have Prime shipping and the returns are easier than Monoprice RMA.

movax
Aug 30, 2008

horchata posted:

Has anyone used the monitor mounts sold at Monoprice or Amazon?

Mainly talking about these two
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=5402&seq=1&format=2

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_i=507846

If so, are they decent enough quality?

The first one is a little "ehhh" IMHO; granted the desk I mounted it on is cheap, terrible IKEA, but it seems to barely support the mass of my Dell 2209WA, which is a fairly light 22" monitor.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

horchata posted:

Has anyone used the monitor mounts sold at Monoprice or Amazon?

Mainly talking about these two
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=5402&seq=1&format=2

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_i=507846

If so, are they decent enough quality?

The second one was 'ok', but the tilt couldn't handle the weight of my u23 and would tilt downwards on me unless propped underneath.

Zorilla
Mar 23, 2005

GOING APE SPIT
I decided I wanted to upgrade from the two Dell 2005FPW's I used with my office computer, so I gave the Dell U2412M a second chance. My previous experience with it was underwhelming, to say the least.

I purchased two of these in "Like New" condition from Amazon Warehouse Deals. When I opened up the boxes, they did indeed look like the previous owners opened them up, then immediately put it back in the box. Not a scratch or mark on either of them, thankfully. When I got them plugged in and reset to factory settings, one had a slightly pink appearance, and other green. Not a big deal; it took about a minute to get them dialed in and looking virtually identical. They aren't the most mindblowing IPS displays I've ever seen, but they are a worthy successor to the old 2005FPW's I used to have.

However, it wouldn't be one of my posts in this thread if these monitors didn't have at least one glaring problem. Is this a common issue on these? Both monitors were manufactured June 2013 and are Rev A00 (presumably the "new" A00, not the old one).



(Ignore the difference in tint. Like I mentioned before, I've already made adjustments that eliminated that)

Being that I ordered from Amazon, I could easily get replacements, but I have to wonder if I'll end up with the same defect over and over like I have in past adventures with Dell, especially since I somehow managed to get two with the exact same problem.

Zorilla fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Dec 10, 2013

Avalanche
Feb 2, 2007

Zorilla posted:


However, it wouldn't be one of my posts in this thread if these monitors didn't have at least one glaring problem. Is this a common problem on these? Both monitors were manufactured June 2013 and are Rev A00 (presumably the "new" A00, not the old one).



(Ignore the difference in tint. Like I mentioned before, I've already made adjustments that eliminated that)

Being that I ordered from Amazon, I could easily get replacements, but I have to wonder if I'll end up with the same defect over and over like I have in past adventures with Dell.

Are you talking about the uneven brightness and the dark shadows in the bottom corners? If so, this is apparently a very common issue with any LED monitor at least from what I've been reading. I actually mistakenly RMA'd an Asus MX239H last week because I thought the dark corners were an actual panel defect caused by the shipping box being beat to hell.

It's apparently really really hard to manufacture any of these things without some uneven brightness or shadow spots. The cost it would require to eliminate this from the manufacturing process is just to great to justify any company giving a poo poo.

I went around a few Best Buy's over the weekend looking to pick something else up, and noticed that just about all LED TVs or LED monitors on display had some kind of issue with shadow spots or shadow corners, or brightness just being uneven on solid color backgrounds. The only displays I didn't notice it on where plasmas and cheap CCFL non-IPS LCD monitors.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Stanley Pain posted:

I wonder who was in your squad and who your bros were chatting about :allears:


NEC have some amazing monitors if you're willing to pay the price for profession level IPS panels (some of which have a polarizer coating). I'd never give up my 2690WuXI, even though it's now only my secondary monitor next to my ASUS 27inch PLS screen.

Well I just don't need more dumb Internet snoopery.

I got the NEC for a really great deal when it just launched. I've successfully over clocked it to 74 hz and it's just lovely.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Refurb HP 27" 2560x1440 monitor for $350: http://sellout.woot.com/offers/hp-27-wqhd-led-ips-monitor

So tempted to replace my 1080p 27" monitor with this to match to my 27" 1440p Korean, but I don't really need to spend $350 right now, even if I can get $100 for my 27" :negative:.

Zorilla
Mar 23, 2005

GOING APE SPIT

Josh Lyman posted:

Refurb HP 27" 2560x1440 monitor for $350: http://sellout.woot.com/offers/hp-27-wqhd-led-ips-monitor

So tempted to replace my 1080p 27" monitor with this to match to my 27" 1440p Korean, but I don't really need to spend $350 right now, even if I can get $100 for my 27" :negative:.

Be advised these have no OSD, so it's probably not ideal for dual monitor setups where you might want to get the colors matched up (though I suppose you could do that with a monitor profile). Also, one review mentions difficulty in getting some computers to recognize the DVI port, so that probably means it has the same limitation as those Korean monitors where it relies on the computer's video hardware to scale up (and requiring dual link to even turn on).

Since these are manufacturer reconditioned units, I wonder if these are the earlier ones with reliability issues and the overly shiny AG coating. This model saw a revision over a year ago that solved this, so who knows?

Zorilla fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Dec 10, 2013

sedaps
Jan 29, 2004
Question for you guys. I'm thinking about getting 2 U2713HM, currently I'm using MSI AMD Radeon HD 7870 which has Mini DisplayPort x2, DL-DVI x1 and HDMI x1. For me to get 2560 x 1440 on both monitors, can I use DVI for one monitor and then this adapter for the other? Is there any benenfit to be using the DisplayPort for both?

Zorilla
Mar 23, 2005

GOING APE SPIT

sedaps posted:

Question for you guys. I'm thinking about getting 2 U2713HM, currently I'm using MSI AMD Radeon HD 7870 which has Mini DisplayPort x2, DL-DVI x1 and HDMI x1. For me to get 2560 x 1440 on both monitors, can I use DVI for one monitor and then this adapter for the other? Is there any benenfit to be using the DisplayPort for both?

The only thing I can think of is maybe the amount of signal processing latency might be different between the DVI and DisplayPort connections, but that's almost certainly going to be imperceptible to the human eye.

You could get a second DisplayPort cable for $7-10 if you wanted to do some cable cleanup (DVI Dual Link cables are rather thick).

BitterAvatar
Jun 19, 2004

I do not miss the future

Zorilla posted:

I decided I wanted to upgrade from the two Dell 2005FPW's I used with my office computer, so I gave the Dell U2412M a second chance. My previous experience with it was underwhelming, to say the least.

I don't know if you're just having insanely bad luck or I just don't actually notice a problem if there is one, but the U2412M I just bought is working great so far. I did some quick checks for backlight bleed when I bought it and couldn't really notice it or anything like what you're experiencing.

I am also buying them now, however.

Factory Factory
Mar 19, 2010

This is what
Arcane Velocity was like.
DisplayPort and mini DisplayPort are just different sized plugs for the same thing, so you can absolutely use that cable. Only hiccup is that that cable has Pin 20 connected, which it should not be for an external DP connection. Then again, this is an extremely common cable whoopsie - fairly difficult to find a cable with the proper Pin 20 hookup, actually - and the worst consequence is the monitor doesn't automatically wake from sleep mode. Plus some hardware compensates for this oopsie and some don't. So it may give you a problem, it may not.

Zorilla
Mar 23, 2005

GOING APE SPIT

BitterAvatar posted:

I don't know if you're just having insanely bad luck or I just don't actually notice a problem if there is one, but the U2412M I just bought is working great so far. I did some quick checks for backlight bleed when I bought it and couldn't really notice it or anything like what you're experiencing.

I am also buying them now, however.

If you're curious about testing them more thoroughly (though I may recommend blissful ignorance at this point), you can bring up the diagnostic test screens by holding buttons 1+4 at exactly the same time. If the OSD comes up, your timing was off. U2713HM's are a little more forgiving about this.

I don't remember the U2412M I tried a few months ago having this problem with dark corners, even if it did have other things wrong with it.

Cathair
Jan 7, 2008
Just got my U2312HM from Newegg yesterday, and coming from a drab old 1440x900 TN monitor, it kinda blows my mind.

Too bad it's revision A00, and is one of the botchy ones. Backlight bleed making a light haze in all corners, especially the lower two, stronger in one than in the other. The left third or so of the screen is slightly but noticably darker and has a dirty brownish tinge- not really noticable when gaming, but it sure shows up in a white browser window. I guess it's time to play monitor roulette for god knows how long. After reading about other people's experiences, I'm wondering if I should just refund the drat thing and buy an Asus.

I have no idea how many monitors are made per revision- are there really that many bad Dells out there, or is it just routine practice to repackage defectives and ship 'em out again until they find a chump willing to accept it?

Avalanche
Feb 2, 2007

Cathair posted:

Just got my U2312HM from Newegg yesterday, and coming from a drab old 1440x900 TN monitor, it kinda blows my mind.

Too bad it's revision A00, and is one of the botchy ones. Backlight bleed making a light haze in all corners, especially the lower two, stronger in one than in the other. The left third or so of the screen is slightly but noticably darker and has a dirty brownish tinge- not really noticable when gaming, but it sure shows up in a white browser window. I guess it's time to play monitor roulette for god knows how long. After reading about other people's experiences, I'm wondering if I should just refund the drat thing and buy an Asus.

I have no idea how many monitors are made per revision- are there really that many bad Dells out there, or is it just routine practice to repackage defectives and ship 'em out again until they find a chump willing to accept it?

My advise is to skip playing monitor roulette, and just keep what you got unless it is really really bad. There really isn't a good LED monitor out there without any backlight evenness, bleed, or shadowing issues. Even some of the Asus LED monitors on amazon.com have a disclaimer at the bottom of the listing basically stating that "Backlight glow/bleed is normal and not a defect; don't return it you rear end in a top hat".

Here's an old CNET article explaining backlight uniformity issues and why it's next to impossible to get a flawless display with LED manufacturing tech at the moment.

Cathair
Jan 7, 2008
The darkening/discoloration is the bigger problem of the two. The backlight bleed is really only an issue in the one corner where it's strongest, and I'd probably just keep the monitor without dissatisfaction if that were the only defect.

The discoloration looks kind of like a faded old coffee stain on any white document. It isn't garishly strong, but moving a window or something from one side of the screen to the other really makes it obvious.

mik
Oct 16, 2003
oh
I need to get another 27" monitor to match my U2711. I don't care about the anti-glare coating on the U2711, but I do care that a replacement looks more or less identical to my current U2711 in terms of the anti-glare coating. Things like input lag and whatnot aren't as important, as this is for programming and spreadsheets. Do either the U2713HM or U2713H have a similar coating to the U2711, or should I just go find another U2711 on Amazon or ebay or something?

Zorilla
Mar 23, 2005

GOING APE SPIT

Avalanche posted:

My advise is to skip playing monitor roulette, and just keep what you got unless it is really really bad. There really isn't a good LED monitor out there without any backlight evenness, bleed, or shadowing issues. Even some of the Asus LED monitors on amazon.com have a disclaimer at the bottom of the listing basically stating that "Backlight glow/bleed is normal and not a defect; don't return it you rear end in a top hat".

Here's an old CNET article explaining backlight uniformity issues and why it's next to impossible to get a flawless display with LED manufacturing tech at the moment.

Ironically, it's been the Korean monitors that have been as close to flawless as I've seen. The X-Star I ordered a while back had great color and brightness uniformity and no backlight bleed (but had to go back because of a "burnt" area on the bottom edge), the FIRST FSM-270YG was almost as good, and the Nixeus VUE27 my boss bought off of me (because it has DisplayPort and he has a Mac) was pretty much the best 1440p display I've ever seen.

I would definitely return a monitor for problems with color or white balance uniformity, as that's a problem that relates to the LCD subpanel itself and not the way it's lighted.

mik posted:

I need to get another 27" monitor to match my U2711. I don't care about the anti-glare coating on the U2711, but I do care that a replacement looks more or less identical to my current U2711 in terms of the anti-glare coating. Things like input lag and whatnot aren't as important, as this is for programming and spreadsheets. Do either the U2713HM or U2713H have a similar coating to the U2711, or should I just go find another U2711 on Amazon or ebay or something?

AG coatings can vary greatly from monitor to monitor, and even between revisions, so you're probably going to want to stick with another U2711. Or, because previous generation Dells like the U2711, when in decent condition and not beat to poo poo, are still super expensive these days, you could sell yours (assuming you aren't married to it) and get a matching pair of U2713HM's.

Zorilla fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Dec 11, 2013

rsjr
Nov 2, 2002

yay for protoss being so simple that retards can win with it

Zorilla posted:

Be advised these have no OSD, so it's probably not ideal for dual monitor setups where you might want to get the colors matched up (though I suppose you could do that with a monitor profile). Also, one review mentions difficulty in getting some computers to recognize the DVI port, so that probably means it has the same limitation as those Korean monitors where it relies on the computer's video hardware to scale up (and requiring dual link to even turn on).

Since these are manufacturer reconditioned units, I wonder if these are the earlier ones with reliability issues and the overly shiny AG coating. This model saw a revision over a year ago that solved this, so who knows?

This monitor can handle full resolution without getting an external D-DVI adapter like the Korean models. It's a pretty decent deal.

Zorilla
Mar 23, 2005

GOING APE SPIT

rsjr posted:

This monitor can handle full resolution without getting an external D-DVI adapter like the Korean models. It's a pretty decent deal.

Are you saying it can display 2560x1440 over DVI single link, or that because it has DisplayPort support, you don't have to buy an expensive active adapter if you're on a Mac?

Even if it didn't have DisplayPort, having a USB hub, fully adjustable stand that connects to the VESA mount, and an internal power supply makes it an excellent deal at $350.

Jack the Lad
Jan 20, 2009

Feed the Pubs

Refurb monitors own. I saved £150 on my U3014 and the only way I can tell it's a refurb is a small scratch on the stand.

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Im_Special
Jan 2, 2011

Look At This!!! WOW!
It's F*cking Nothing.
I was planning on picking up a new monitor real soon and am aiming for 1980x1200, probably a Dell U2410 or U2412, I also would really like to go dual monitors, my current monitor is a Dell 2007FP 20.1 1600x1200, my question is can this be used as my second monitor? Does the difference in res 1980x1200 + 1600x1200 make things weird, or is it just better to get 2x of the same monitor for dual setups to make things symmetrical.

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