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SubponticatePoster posted:I'm still pissed you never got to bring that up in your first meeting with the Council in 3. You actually can and the Turian Councilor calls you petty for saying that. "Yeah dude I'm the petty one for reminding you that we could have saved billions of lives."
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Burning Mustache posted:I think once your Paragon meter is at 75% you can unlock those two spots. Saren only needs 7 on virmire, and 9 at the end game. Ethan Jeong is the only thing in the game that requires more than 9 intimidate, or more than 10 charm. You need 243 paragon to unlock the last tier, as compared to 83 for the tier before that. For the big, easy to get decisions: Background is 20 points Rachni queen is 24 Wrex is 28 Doing all of the optional objectives on virmire is 20 The colonists are 32, but obviously you can't get that before jeong. That's only 96. You have to pick up another 147 from side quests and incidental points from dialogue. DrNutt posted:^My god I've literally never missed that check. What's wrong with me?^ You get the specialization sidequest at level 20. But, that's independant of persuasion skills. Were you intimidating him? That only needs 10 points, which is a lot easier to get.
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Dr. Stab posted:You get the specialization sidequest at level 20. But, that's independant of persuasion skills. Nope, I usually play paragon. I think I pretty much always do completionist runs though so that probably explains it. Sidequests! 
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So, I just picked up the trilogy cheap and was having a blast with it. Just finished my first playthrough of all of them. Is it worth it to buy that interactive comic thing that sets up events from ME1 and 2 for the third game. I'm not sure I wanna go back and play the other two again. Also, I think I've found my spirit animal, and it is the Volus Engineer.
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Rough Lobster posted:So, I just picked up the trilogy cheap and was having a blast with it. Just finished my first playthrough of all of them. Is it worth it to buy that interactive comic thing that sets up events from ME1 and 2 for the third game. I'm not sure I wanna go back and play the other two again. What platform are you on? If PC no. If on console less no than on PC but still not really. It only lets you change a few of the 'big' choices and sidequest stuff is left out.
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Rough Lobster posted:So, I just picked up the trilogy cheap and was having a blast with it. Just finished my first playthrough of all of them. Is it worth it to buy that interactive comic thing that sets up events from ME1 and 2 for the third game. I'm not sure I wanna go back and play the other two again. The interactive comic is really, really bare-bones and you'll be missing a lot of stuff from anything but the most major decisions. If you're on PC, you're much better off just creating a modified savegame with Gibbed's savegame editor and setting all of the plot flags manually.
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Trast posted:You actually can and the Turian Councilor calls you petty for saying that.  edit: I also had a weird bug in 3 the other night. Was playing through Leviathan on the mission where you go to pick up Ann. There's that part where a bridge needs repairing and they drop some husks and a Banshee on you. Since there's no cover I got kinda chewed up and missed the dodge on the warp-ball. Banshee dies to gunfire and then I die immediately afterwards. When I restart, I don't need to fight her again, but all my medigel and grenades are gone and I have 1 bar of health  2nd edit: VVV This man understands! SubponticatePoster fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Dec 9, 2013 |
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SubponticatePoster posted:I know you can bring up that they didn't listen to you, I wanted airquotes and peak smug. Seriously, ending aside, this is probably the biggest let-down of ME3. I don't think there's a single person who played ME2 that didn't fully expect that you could throw the  back at that guy.
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Burning Mustache posted:The interactive comic is really, really bare-bones and you'll be missing a lot of stuff from anything but the most major decisions. If you're on PC, you're much better off just creating a modified savegame with Gibbed's savegame editor and setting all of the plot flags manually. I tried to make an ME2 save from scratch for importing into ME3 a few weeks ago, and it never worked. I'm still not sure what I missed. 
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Ciaphas posted:I tried to make an ME2 save from scratch for importing into ME3 a few weeks ago, and it never worked. I'm still not sure what I missed. Hmm, to be honest I've never really used Gibbed's editor much, but have you tried just downloading an ME1 save from that Mass Effect Savegames site and editing that?
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Yeah, I did that with an ME2 save instead. Ended up waffling on which Virmire survivor I wanted and whether to play Paragon or Renegade or etcetc in my usual fashion, but it did (eventually) work. Given how often I start over I should reeealy set up a save that at least starts on Mars, instead of Earth. 
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I was just thinking about kai leng and how cool it would have been if they'd gone whole-hog with the idea that he was TIM's replacement for Shepard and set him up as a mirror equivalent. A ship like the Normandy but slightly worse, a specialist crew slightly more unstable and disloyal and having them trying to beat you to objectives throughout the game, taking down 1 or 2 of them as minibosses on the priority missions till you finally take kai leng on Cronus station.
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Der Luftwaffle posted:I was just thinking about kai leng and how cool it would have been if they'd gone whole-hog with the idea that he was TIM's replacement for Shepard and set him up as a mirror equivalent. A ship like the Normandy but slightly worse, a specialist crew slightly more unstable and disloyal and having them trying to beat you to objectives throughout the game, taking down 1 or 2 of them as minibosses on the priority missions till you finally take kai leng on Cronus station. 
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Der Luftwaffle posted:I was just thinking about kai leng and how cool it would have been if they'd gone whole-hog with the idea that he was TIM's replacement for Shepard and set him up as a mirror equivalent. A ship like the Normandy but slightly worse, a specialist crew slightly more unstable and disloyal and having them trying to beat you to objectives throughout the game, taking down 1 or 2 of them as minibosses on the priority missions till you finally take kai leng on Cronus station. This might actually have worked rather well if Cerberus' role was mostly limited to that instead of them having an entire army all over the galaxy fighting everybody else.
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Mass Effect 3: Opportunities Squandered
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So I forgot the most fun thing about the Mako, loving with the .ini and not giving a poo poo. I ran over so many Geth.
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Dr. Stab posted:This guy is doing a speedrun marathon playthrough of all 3 Mass Effect games: Wow, I didn't realize it was possible to entirely skip the second-half recruitment missions (Tali/Thane/Samara) if you had Kasumi and Zaeed. Der Luftwaffle posted:I was just thinking about kai leng and how cool it would have been if they'd gone whole-hog with the idea that he was TIM's replacement for Shepard and set him up as a mirror equivalent. A ship like the Normandy but slightly worse, a specialist crew slightly more unstable and disloyal and having them trying to beat you to objectives throughout the game, taking down 1 or 2 of them as minibosses on the priority missions till you finally take kai leng on Cronus station. Bizarro Shepard sounds more entertaining than what we got.
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monster on a stick posted:Wow, I didn't realize it was possible to entirely skip the second-half recruitment missions (Tali/Thane/Samara) if you had Kasumi and Zaeed.
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I might be answering a question that was either asked in the other thread and/or long ago during my "find a random page of this thread and read for a while" binges, but I think someone was asking about earlier ME threads. I was curious myself, and I found three: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3259234 http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3335211 http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3448836 The third is more of a general ME thread, I guess.
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MisterBibs posted:I might be answering a question that was either asked in the other thread and/or long ago during my "find a random page of this thread and read for a while" binges, but I think someone was asking about earlier ME threads. I was curious myself, and I found three: quote:I'm trying my hardest to avoid any info about ME3, but I want to know if there's going to be anything like the Reaper IFF. Because that was some horseshit. Haha, awwww.
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MisterBibs posted:I might be answering a question that was either asked in the other thread and/or long ago during my "find a random page of this thread and read for a while" binges, but I think someone was asking about earlier ME threads. I was curious myself, and I found three: 
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Elysiume posted:Picked a random page, found this:  I wish you could've had a scene like the first game, with the Council all there with all the diplomats watching, maybe even televised, where you got to tell them off for doubting you as an infinite fleet of Lovecraftian horrors obliterated the known galaxy. It would've been marvelous.
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quote:edit: The derelict Reaper is still an amazing experience. It fills me with hope that Bioware won't ruin their mystique in ME3. Oh, 2010 Milky.
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Lightning Knight posted:
Did you not enjoy three thousand calibration jokes?
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Burning Mustache posted:Seriously, ending aside, this is probably the biggest let-down of ME3. I don't think there's a single person who played ME2 that didn't fully expect that you could throw the He was dead in all my playthroughs so I'd never seen it.
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Pattonesque posted:I remember when people were super-excited to see how they planned on topping the Suicide Mission. Because with so many variables, they'd be able to create a lengthy and unique final missiohahahahahaha This is all well and good to laugh at but I find it to be very  I mean, I remember being really excited for Mass Effect 3 too, given that I preordered ME2 and loved it, but I ended up putting off buying it even though it came out right around my birthday cause I didn't have LIVE at the time and wanted to try the multiplayer (even though at the time I thought the idea of ME multiplayer was laughable and was wary of its impact on the story - ha!). I didn't end up getting LIVE until this year, but the news about the ending was really sad to me. It ended up not being as bad - to me anyway - but it was still disappointing all the same considering what it could've been.
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Lightning Knight posted:This is all well and good to laugh at but I find it to be very Do you remember in Priority: Earth, when you saw that little glimpse of the armies you gathered listening to Hackett's speech, and you were all excited to see how'd they'd be used in the actual battle, and you kept waiting and waiting for a geth juggernaut to drop in or for a group of STG to save you, and then you realized that said glimpse was all you were gonna get?
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Pattonesque posted:Do you remember in Priority: Earth, when you saw that little glimpse of the armies you gathered listening to Hackett's speech, and you were all excited to see how'd they'd be used in the actual battle, and you kept waiting and waiting for a geth juggernaut to drop in or for a group of STG to save you, and then you realized that said glimpse was all you were gonna get? Yeah I kept expecting during that "defend the missiles" bit that, like, a Geth Juggernaught was going to land on top of a Cannibal and start blastin' Banshees with me and poo poo.
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Or being part of the giant battle with hammers and makos and soldiers and and ... Yeah so much coulda been done more in the end, but just wasn't there. I guess it was too video gamey to have Shepard with forces on a field just slaughtering things as long as possible before Harb shows him and let Joker get another run at a Reaper. I'll still look at ME4 when it comes but no way in hell will I blindly pre-order it like I did with ME3. Hell. Probly will get ME4 if they continue with another multiplayer aspect on it, that was easily worth the money for ME3.
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And wasn't the audio for all those assets showing up in the final battle still buried in the game? In a way, the whole thing makes me feel nostalgic for those group projects from high school where no one would really take control and you'd end up with something really unevenly executed and clearly slapped together towards the end that looks alright but falls apart under any sort of scrutiny.
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Just upgraded my PS3's hard drive and downloaded the trilogy and the DLC and I'm starting another playthrough. I think it might become a Christmas tradition for me. The games always make me think of the winter. I played the first one in November 2007 through the Christmas season, and the 2nd one came out in January so it was still cold. I don't know why, but I really love playing these games in the glow of my tree.
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Der Luftwaffle posted:And wasn't the audio for all those assets showing up in the final battle still buried in the game? There were unused voices for Jacob, Zaeed, and a geth shouting stuff in combat and Jack giving a pep talk to her squad. It was probably just off-screen radio chatter but I always thought it would have been neat if there was a tangible benefit to your allies, like they did with calling in friendly NPC troops to fight darkspawn mobs during the siege of Denerim in DA:O. Radio Wrex for help and he and Grunt come around the corner with a krogan squad screaming and headbutting.
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It would have been so easy - there's combat animations, skins, weapons and effects for every single conceivable (and some bizarre) trooper in the multi already... I was also really down on the multi before it came out. When the beta test arrived I doubtingly played it with a friend and my god! It was brilliant! It started great and evolved into something I consider the best horde mode multiplayer out there. Another few game types and it could have been an incredible game on its own. As it is, I probably put more hours into it than I did single player in one and three combined. (But not for long as I'm planning another completionist run of one)
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Doctor Reynolds posted:Yeah I kept expecting during that "defend the missiles" bit that, like, a Geth Juggernaught was going to land on top of a Cannibal and start blastin' Banshees with me and poo poo. Or seeing a swarm of Rachni wash over a group of banshees. Instead, they go "we'll help you move some panels on the Crucible, I guess, whatever" and then merrily disappear from the narrative. Really this ended up being the main issue with the ending for me. Don't imply that all these things are going to matter and then act surprised when people got snitty when they didn't, you guys
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sassassin posted:He was dead in all my playthroughs so I'd never seen it. This is sort of related, but were you the guy who never had an ME2 and ME3 play through with Wrex alive? Because I thought that was kind of amazing.
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CPFortest posted:This is sort of related, but were you the guy who never had an ME2 and ME3 play through with Wrex alive? He's never seen ME3 but I made it through that mess 1 and 3/4 times (and only that cause I missed Grissom Academy the first time) so it's hardly remarkable. My only complete playthrough had a dead Thane, Grunt, Kaidan & Tali iirc. Don't think Zaeed and Kasumi were around either. There's a chance Wrex survived for 1 ME2 game cause I played that a shitload. Even when I have the option to talk him down in ME1 I don't on principle. Nothing of value is lost.
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You can beat ME1 without picking up Wrex at all. This is the same as having him dead for ME2. You can also go pick him up after Virmire, and then go talk to him on the ship, and he'll talk about the conversation you had on Virmire. Also, if you go to Virmire without Garrus, Wrex, or Liara, and you get through Virmire in a single session without dying, then you get two Talis in your party.
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Well, you have to use glitches to do it without recruiting anyone, but the only things you need to do are: kill fist, get tali, talk to council.
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