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WampaLord posted:Yes it is. San Francisco housing prices are completely insane, even for CA. quote:No, but I would argue it's just as good. I'm heading up to SF in a couple weeks so maybe I'll reevaluate after that visit. Be sure to try a representative sample of 200 to 300 restaurants in order to make a reasonable evaluation, thanks. quote:Get the gently caress out of here. We have like one hot week a year, it's gorgeous almost all the time. And right now it's way warmer than what you all are dealing with. Ugh no it's like 90+ degrees all the time in socal. Look that's just something we know to be true. quote:Any other SoCal myths I can bust? Is it true your cops are all corrupt racists? quote:This is true, see The Californians sketch on SNL, it's a depressingly accurate take on how every loving conversation in LA becomes about which freeways you took to get there. Yeah we talked about this earlier in the thread, the whole "the 101" vs. norcal's "101" thing. predicto posted:Yeah, but they have Disneyland and water that is warm enough to swim in. As a San Franciscan, I am bitterly jealous of both of those things. Disneyland actually sucks and if you need to take a bath, we do have indoor plumbing here in northern california. I'm not 100% sure if people from LA ever wash, I assume they just hose down in the yard since it's always super-hot outside. Republicans are always overdressed and sweaty. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Dec 10, 2013 |
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Leperflesh posted:Disneyland actually sucks and if you need to take a bath, we do have indoor plumbing here in northern california. I'm not 100% sure if people from LA ever wash, I assume they just hose down in the yard since it's always super-hot outside. Republicans are always overdressed and sweaty. We can't be friends anymore. 
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A Winner is Jew posted:We can't be friends anymore. No, he's correct. Knott's is better.
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A Winner is Jew posted:We can't be friends anymore. Compared to Disney World, it's a joke. Leperflesh posted:Is it true your cops are all corrupt racists? A depressing amount of them, yes. 
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Disneyland is ridiculously expensive so that you can spend all day standing in line to ride a handful of sub-par roller coasters, while being relentlessly inundated with Disney marketing schlock. It's OK if you're 12 I guess, although there are probably things your 12-year-old would enjoy more for the price. There are amusement parks with rides everywhere, and most of them aren't part of the marketing department for one of the world's largest corporations. e. true story: the one and only time I rode on Space Mountain, I projectile vomited for an hour after we got off. Oh god yes, please, let's hurl my body in all directions in the dark where I can't see a horizon or tell what is down or up arghbarlgh  Also the last time I went to Disneyland, Star Tours was new (it'd been there for like a year or two I guess) and we stood in line for like 90 minutes and that was cool with C3PO and everything in the line, and then it turned out you just sat in a chair in a box that tilted from side to side while watching a movie. gently caress, disappointing doesn't even begin to cover it. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Dec 10, 2013 |
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Last dinner party I was at in LA, after everyone finished talking about how they drove there and how much traffic there was, they moved on to talking about Disneyland strategies. How often to go, what kind of pass to get, which rides to target and in what order. Also of great interest were the latest rumors about park reorganizations, ride remodeling, potential new rides, etc. It was awful.
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Why would any adult go to Disneyland when Magic Mountain is right there waiting for you? Take a Wednesday off from work in the spring (before school gets out) and treat yourself to line-less rides on the best rollercoasters in America all day. Just cross your fingers that X won't be broken for the millionth time. While you're there, make sure to take a moment to lament the destruction of the "Zen" (  ) Garden. Four rides in a row on Goliath without a break is a lot tougher without being able to get my zen on.
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Leperflesh posted:Disneyland is ridiculously expensive so that you can spend all day standing in line to ride a handful of sub-par roller coasters, while being relentlessly inundated with Disney marketing schlock. It's OK if you're 12 I guess, although there are probably things your 12-year-old would enjoy more for the price. There are amusement parks with rides everywhere, and most of them aren't part of the marketing department for one of the world's largest corporations. I've got kids and I've been to a shitload of amusement parks and boardwalks and nothing compares to Disneyland. Yes, XXXXX amusement park has a bigger roller coaster or something, but that rollercoaster is surrounded by empty asphalt and is operated by a bored, surly acne-ridden teen. Disneyland is immersive. So gently caress you gently caress you gently caress you gently caress yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for meeeeeeee!!!! And no, Disneyworld is not better because it is 1) in a hot and humid fetid swamp, 2) surrounded by Florida, and 3) has a bunch of poo poo that doesn't matter because it is all about the Magic Kingdom raaarrrrrrrrrr That was suprisingly cathartic.
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Leperflesh posted:
Why would anyone stand in line for an hour and a half? Fast Pass for the win. You learn how to work the Fast Pass system and you never wait more than a few minutes for anything. plus, one of the best things about Star Tours is the line. There is a ton to see just standing in that queue.
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WampaLord posted:Compared to Disney World, it's a joke. I have the pass that gets me into both Disneyland and Disneyworld and go to Florida twice a year, and while World has Epcot which is the best Disney park, it also has Hollywood Studios which is the worst. I'll admit that CA Adventure when it opened was utter poo poo, but since they brought in Cars Land and updated the hell out of it it's actually on par with Magic Kingdom, which only has the better regular Haunted Mansion (only CA gets the Nightmare Before Christmas version which owns), new Fantasy land, and the better Autopia cars because of CA smog restrictions. Aside from those three things, Disneyland is superior to Magic Kingdom in every way.
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A Winner is Jew posted:World has Epcot which is the best Disney park This is all I care about. Epcot is so loving cool and I miss it. A Winner is Jew posted:Hollywood Studios Ughhh. I will always call it MGM. A Winner is Jew posted:go to Florida twice a year I'm so sorry. I've managed to get my visits down to once a year, and that's with all my family still living there.
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predicto posted:Why would anyone stand in line for an hour and a half? Fast Pass for the win. You learn how to work the Fast Pass system and you never wait more than a few minutes for anything. You rich kids and your newfangled passes and fasts. When I was a kid, everyone stood in the same line. It was a more egalitarian society back then. I don't actually like amusement parks at all. Roller coasters in general make me sick, and I don't like screaming poorly-behaved other-people's kids much either. The fact it's also Disney is just the poo poo icing on the crapcake that pushes Disneyland to the bottom of the list, plus you pay a premium for that.
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Does the SF Bay Area-Sac conurbation really belong in "NorCal"? Usually what I think of as "NorCal" is everything north of the Sonoma/Mendocino county line, while the Bay Area is its own special sort of place. When I think of NorCal I think of pot farms, hick towns and forests. v v
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Well we sure as gently caress aren't in southern california! I think most of us draw the line somewhere around San Luis Obispo.
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DrSunshine posted:Does the SF Bay Area-Sac conurbation really belong in "NorCal"? Usually what I think of as "NorCal" is everything north of the Sonoma/Mendocino county line, while the Bay Area is its own special sort of place. When I think of NorCal I think of pot farms, hick towns and forests. v Those parts don't think of the bay and often Sacramento as part of norcal. But it is. They can go be the state of jefferson.
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Leperflesh posted:You rich kids and your newfangled passes and fasts. When I was a kid, everyone stood in the same line. It was a more egalitarian society back then. See, my wife and I actually hate kids but love Disneyland... but we don't pay a premium for it outside of our passes which gets us 20% off food and merch so it's actually not expensive at all. Plus, living three blocks away from it means we go once a week for breakfast (River Belle Terrace has cinnamon roll French toast which is amazing as it sounds) which is like $20 and stay until like 1-3, and then again one evening during the week for dinner which even for sit down it's like $30-50 depending on how nice it is. Trick to eat at Disney is to NEVER do walk-up food since it's just as expensive as the cheep sit-down places and to always make a reservation the day before.
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Disney land is OK but what really annoys me are the 20 somethings who act like they're still 8 and go nuts over it. I dated a girl for three months and every weekend she drove 2 hours to Anaheim. She also expected me to go nuts over it when I am indifferent at best to spending so much time among screaming children and tourists with sunstroke. I can understand going a few times a year, but come on, there are more exciting ways to spend your Saturday. e: obviously if you live next door this doesn't apply, i had a great time popping in to Magic Mountain after work when I lived next door. Mayor Dave fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Dec 10, 2013 |
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nm posted:Those parts don't think of the bay and often Sacramento as part of norcal. But it is. They can go be the state of jefferson. gently caress no if you lump in the Inland Empire, Bakersfield and other desert shitholes with SoCal then you can have the wackos in not-quite-oregon NorCal.
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A Winner is Jew posted:See, my wife and I actually hate kids but love Disneyland... but we don't pay a premium for it outside of our passes which gets us 20% off food and merch so it's actually not expensive at all. Plus, living three blocks away from it means we go once a week for breakfast (River Belle Terrace has cinnamon roll French toast which is amazing as it sounds) which is like $20 and stay until like 1-3, and then again one evening during the week for dinner which even for sit down it's like $30-50 depending on how nice it is. You are like an alien to me. You deliberately seek out Disneyland for your fine dining? You pay money for a card that gets you 20% off the hyperinflated prices at Disneyland, and think that means you're not paying a premium? You live withing walking distance of Disneyland. I guess you must really like it there! For me that sounds like a special version of Hell, tailored especially to torment me personally. e. Admit it. You and your wife own matching his-and-hers Mickey/Minnie sweatshirts. Don't you.
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I've always thought that "The Inland Empire" would be a great name for a post-apocalyptic feudal/fantasy kingdom.  "Kneel before Ralph I, Emperor of the Inland Empire!!!"
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A customer of mine lives near Disneyland. She now hates fireworks because they make her commute home impossibly slow. Everyone stops to look at them and she just wants to get home
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A Winner is Jew posted:I have the pass that gets me into both Disneyland and Disneyworld and go to Florida twice a year, and while World has Epcot which is the best Disney park, it also has Hollywood Studios which is the worst. I'll admit that CA Adventure when it opened was utter poo poo, but since they brought in Cars Land and updated the hell out of it it's actually on par with Magic Kingdom, which only has the better regular Haunted Mansion (only CA gets the Nightmare Before Christmas version which owns), new Fantasy land, and the better Autopia cars because of CA smog restrictions. Aside from those three things, Disneyland is superior to Magic Kingdom in every way. Disneyland has the much better Pirates ride, has a better Space Mountain, has the truly delicious Indiana Jones ride, has epic fake rubbery 1957 era dinosaurs on the train ride, and has the absolutely best ride to experience while stoned: Alice in Wonderland. Plus it fits more stuff into less space, so there is less hiking.
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DrSunshine posted:I've always thought that "The Inland Empire" would be a great name for a post-apocalyptic feudal/fantasy kingdom. The Inland Empire is actually a fairly specific area of California and the fastest growing area of the nation. This is the official map according to the California Board of Tourism.  Although most people who live in Victorville and Hesperia consider it to be the High Desert and not the official Inland Empire. Everyone outside that zone are horribly deformed sand people and we don't talk about those people. Also it was windy as poo poo yesterday with gusts up to 60mph and it destroyed my patio furniture.  You can tell I live in the IE because of the cookie cutter houses and small dirt backyard.  Shbobdb posted:A customer of mine lives near Disneyland. She now hates fireworks because they make her commute home impossibly slow. Everyone stops to look at them and she just wants to get home I used to drive home down the 5 at around 9:35 every night right by Disneyland and there were always a few people who had to stop and pull over and get out of their cars on the freeway to watch the stupid fireworks.
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Leperflesh posted:You are like an alien to me. You deliberately seek out Disneyland for your fine dining? You pay money for a card that gets you 20% off the hyperinflated prices at Disneyland, and think that means you're not paying a premium? You probably haven't been in a while, but Disneyland has really loving good food now (again?). And no, no we loving hate "mouse crap" as my wife calls it and we've never purchased a "mickey" sweatshirt. Bonus pic: these exist and we've seen people this oblivious. Yes my wife and I are both 12. 
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FCKGW posted:gently caress no if you lump in the Inland Empire, Bakersfield and other desert shitholes with SoCal then you can have the wackos in not-quite-oregon NorCal. The actual Maginot line (the pine tree/palm tree) divide is in Madera, CA on Hwy 99...........so you get Fresno too, enjoy! 
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Hey that's my home turf man. Reppin' Madtown like hey. gently caress scraps. And Leperflesh is 100% right Disneyland is the loving worst.
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I can understanding Bay Area people insulting LA but I don't get how they do it like their poo poo don't stink.
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Due to the standard northern California diet our poo poo, in fact, does not stink.
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Keyser S0ze posted:The actual Maginot line (the pine tree/palm tree) divide is in Madera, CA on Hwy 99...........so you get Fresno too, enjoy! The line is at Delano.
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I've always thought of the dividing line as the Grapevine; once you're over the pass you've left civilization behind.
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Mayor Dave posted:I've always thought of the dividing line as the Grapevine; once you're over the pass you've left civilization behind. A: One side gets bakersfield, the other gets fresno. It is only fair. B: It is the only line that matters because it could keep you from getting killed (in prison, but still).
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No way is it at Madera. That would put Monterey, Carmel and Big Sur in SoCal, and no one thinks that. I always thought it was that one straight line that cuts across the state between Monterey County and SLO County. Kern is SoCal, Tulare is NorCal, Big Sur is NorCal, Morro Bay are SoCal and so on.  San Simeon might be the best border post. Don't you put castles at hostile borders? predicto fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Dec 10, 2013 |
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Dusseldorf posted:I can understanding Bay Area people insulting LA but I don't get how they do it like their poo poo don't stink. What the point of being insulting if you aren't also going to be insufferable?
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I could imagine a hypothetical state split in which the primary contentious issue is who gets stuck with Fresno.
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Grand Prize Winner posted:I could imagine a hypothetical state split in which the primary contentious issue is who gets stuck with Fresno. I suspect both sides would fight over not having Bakersfield. Fresno gets you Yosemite, which is a fair trade. Bakersfield gets you very little (though apparently they just found shale oil).
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Dusseldorf posted:I can understanding Bay Area people insulting LA but I don't get how they do it like their poo poo don't stink. It all goes back to LA stealing the water back in the 70's when people in SF were suffering by sharing showers and saving the dirty bits to water their plants afterward. No seriously, people really did that poo poo. Meanwhile, I spent the 70's growing up near the 405 and I remember playing in the sprinklers like a water-wasting boss.
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The actual, physical split is right at Madera, goons - right around the 37th parallel. http://www.cityofmadera.org/web/guest/city-facts1 .......doesn't mean it makes sense but that's why the trees are there. http://duanehallca.blogspot.com/2010/02/where-palm-meets-pine.html "The palm and the pine are located between the latitudinal midline of California and the midpoint of US Route 99 in California. I guess this location just south of Avenue 11 in Madera County was the right spot at the right time for the folks that had this idea and planted the trees." Keyser_Soze fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Dec 10, 2013 |
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hepscat posted:It all goes back to LA stealing the water back in the 70's when people in SF were suffering by sharing showers and saving the dirty bits to water their plants afterward. I mean LA steals water, but not from the same places from where the bay area steals water.
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