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Otisburg posted:Absolutely. Look at how many deaths we're willing to tolerate just to have privately owned internal combustion engine vehicles to take us boring places. Tad William's Otherland has 'goggleboys' who are dudes that stay jacked into the net for so long that they lose the ability to talk normally and become completely weird but masters within the simulations. I guess the logical progression of the computer geek. Javier "T4b" Rodgers—a goggleboy who speaks in badly mangled net-slang and wears the armor of a robot or a space-age warrior. He is a suspected charge-head—someone who takes data-based drugs. You don't just party with the Playboy models, you can tune in a wild line of coke too if you like. Yes.. society would rapidly crumble.
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Whalley posted:Star Trek isn't a show aimed at children shot on theater sets with digital cameras from twenty years ago with a huge fanbase of people who unironically talk about shipping and will openly say "head canon" out loud in public though, so it's hard to compare. It's just the realm of disgusting people wearing homemade costumes, sickening mental elitists, and a really weird amount of pedophiles. I agree fans define what I'm interested in  yep and I was very serious about redoing Voyager and Enterprise to be good (yeah Enterprise had some good parts but it could be a lot better)
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If we want to talk about how terrible fans are, we could always link to the Memory Alpha pages on "Sex" or "Beards" again but maybe we should just accept that the people most obsessed with a thing are always at least mildly off-putting.
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Let's talk about good things on Memory Alpha! http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Matte_painting This page is the most fantastic place to get phone wallpapers that don't overtly scream Star Trek. I hate how often some of the mattes get used, but they're just really fun future locations. I sort of hope if there's ever a new Star Trek, they do some more outdoor shots that use CG extensions to the set to make some of this stuff look more real.
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Bicyclops posted:If we want to talk about how terrible fans are, we could always link to the Memory Alpha pages on "Sex" or "Beards" again but maybe we should just accept that the people most obsessed with a thing are always at least mildly off-putting. The MA pages on 'Beard' and 'Breast' are the pinnacle of cultural achievement.
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Like I think there is a small possibility the "vulcan posterior" photo reference with the "Vulcan" entry is not meant to edify us on Vulcan physiology and phenotypes but rather to arouse our more illogically prurient interests.
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I fuckin' love poo poo like the Romulan Uniform page, where they link to a page that explains what a scientist is but there's no link to what a Romulan is because hey, priorities.
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Somethin' about the end of "Explorers" really choked me up. Maybe it's the first appearance of Sisko's beard. That episode was pretty great though, Ben and Jake have such a believable father/son thing going on I love it. Cardassians shooting off space-fireworks celebrating something ancient Bajorans did is really heartwarming. 
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apophenium posted:Somethin' about the end of "Explorers" really choked me up. Maybe it's the first appearance of Sisko's beard. That episode was pretty great though, Ben and Jake have such a believable father/son thing going on I love it. Cardassians shooting off space-fireworks celebrating something ancient Bajorans did is really heartwarming. It's definitely the beard.
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I'm watching the Voyager episode with the very obviously evil hologram man (the reveal hasn't happened yet, but, it's been there since the cold open). These poor writers and the casting director wanted him to be Anthony Perkins from Psycho so loving hard. edit: oh, and now Tom is getting jealous of Harry's crush on Seven of Nine. Voyager has vastly improved this season, from "so bad, it's usually unwatchable" to "so bad, it's actually petty funny!" Bicyclops fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Dec 11, 2013 |
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Bicyclops posted:I'm watching the Voyager episode with the very obviously evil hologram man (the reveal hasn't happened yet, but, it's been there since the cold open). These poor writers and the casting director wanted him to be Anthony Perkins from Psycho so loving hard. Just wait until they introduce the Borg Queen. There's much more to come!
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Rutibex posted:Just wait until they introduce the Borg Queen. There's much more to come! Was this before or after the "Dark Frontier" two-parter? I really liked the flashback bits. But didn't Janeway get assimilated then rapidly unassimilated? Edit: That back story and the Enterprise episode always filled in some really important gaps for me. It makes no sense that Guinan's people were spread to the stars by the Borg and, yet, no one has ever heard of them or has had any experience with them before. I guess it's really hard to figure out with all the retconning going on, but I always felt like the Borg would be this giant, menacing power and it would be absurd for Starfleet to have not at least heard legends about them. Great_Gerbil fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Dec 11, 2013 |
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Great_Gerbil posted:Was this before or after the "Dark Frontier" two-parter? I really liked the flashback bits. But didn't Janeway get assimilated then rapidly unassimilated? Ya Voyager is immune to the Borg pretty much, they're just another average problem. I liked how in Enterprise when the Borg hail them they leave out their name and just say "you will be assimilated" because  to not retcon too badly.
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MikeJF posted:The Hansens were studying the Borg years before the Enterprise-D encounter anyway, apparently. I assumed that 7 of 9 was still technically like 10 years old but had her development accelerated with borg maturation technology. So the Hansens mission could be after the Enterprise-D encounter. rocket_man38 posted:Ya Voyager is immune to the Borg pretty much, they're just another average problem. I liked how in Enterprise when the Borg hail them they leave out their name and just say "you will be assimilated" because *successfully steals borg transwarp drive and burns it out cutting 1/8 off their journey* *never bothers to try again or attempt to reverse engineer the technology*
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Rutibex posted:*successfully steals borg transwarp drive and burns it out cutting 1/8 off their journey* Janeway had ADHD. Why the hell should they spend any significant time researching a very obvious way home that would only need a few weeks' worth of tweaking when they ... ohhh a blue nebula!
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Rutibex posted:I assumed that 7 of 9 was still technically like 10 years old but had her development accelorated with borg maturation technology. So the Hansens mission could be after the Enterprise-D encounter. That was back when the Borg were perfect techno-organic hybrid people, not the space zombies they became.
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Rutibex posted:I assumed that 7 of 9 was still technically like 10 years old but had her development accelerated with borg maturation technology. So the Hansens mission could be after the Enterprise-D encounter. According to Memory Alpha they started the mission the same year Worf killed a child and Nog was born. It was also the same year Riker and Geordi entered the academy.
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Rutibex posted:I assumed that 7 of 9 was still technically like 10 years old but had her development accelerated with borg maturation technology. So the Hansens mission could be after the Enterprise-D encounter. Wow, shocked that Neelix wasn't all on up that then.
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1st AD posted:That was back when the Borg were perfect techno-organic hybrid people, not the space zombies they became. Oh god I hated what Voyager did to the Borg. It's like the writers didn't even understand why they where such a dangerous threat. They just took every trope from Best of Both World and cargo culted it, without any thought. The Borg don't have "adaptive technology" the can adapt because they have the collective knowledge of all their scientists at their disposal and the brain of a billion geniuses. The technology doesn't "adapt" on it's own they are designing that poo poo on the fly. Also they figured out phasers already, you don't get 10 free shots credit when you encounter a new cube  1st AD posted:Don't blame Voyager, blame Ron Moore and Brannon Braga for Descent which turned the Borg into really dumb idiots and First Contact which turned them into zombies. That's fair, once Roddenberry died the Borg started sucking. Rutibex fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Dec 11, 2013 |
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Don't blame Voyager, blame Ron Moore and Brannon Braga for Descent which turned the Borg into really dumb idiots and First Contact which turned them into zombies.
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Vengeance of Pandas posted:According to Memory Alpha they started the mission the same year Worf killed a child and Nog was born. It was also the same year Riker and Geordi entered the academy. drat, I guess Ensign laForge was just really overdue for his promotion to Lt. Cmdr by the end of season one, huh?
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:drat, I guess Ensign laForge was just really overdue for his promotion to Lt. Cmdr by the end of season one, huh? Nah, we all know Riker hosed his way up the ranks.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:drat, I guess Ensign laForge was just really overdue for his promotion to Lt. Cmdr by the end of season one, huh? His demotion to Ensign was part of a plea agreement. The records are still sealed.
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What was with the string of pathetic chief engineers in season one anyway? I swear in one episode Picard said he had two chief engineers, and they were always different people. Argyle (terrible decision to try to re-make ethnic Mr Scott?) Some woman Several other people then That ensign who sits at Conn how did that happen?
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1st AD posted:Don't blame Voyager, blame Ron Moore and Brannon Braga for Descent which turned the Borg into really dumb idiots and First Contact which turned them into zombies. Descent made the Borg smarter! They left a bunch of guys for dead because, surprise, the Borg aren't morons and the Hugh-plan of "he'll spread individuality through the collective  " was...not really a plan.
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Whalley posted:http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Matte_painting This page is the most fantastic place to get phone wallpapers that don't overtly scream Star Trek. I hate how often some of the mattes get used, but they're just really fun future locations. I sort of hope if there's ever a new Star Trek, they do some more outdoor shots that use CG extensions to the set to make some of this stuff look more real. Thanks for these, they're really fun to look through. I just noticed how some of the buildings at Starfleet Headquarters have rust stains, or some kind of wear and tear, on them. Didn't expect that in the squeaky clean future. Love the junky-looking maintenance arm, too.
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Trent posted:What was with the string of pathetic chief engineers in season one anyway? I swear in one episode Picard said he had two chief engineers, and they were always different people. I think the idea was, since the ship "ran itself" back then, the chief engineer was a pretty useless position and thus the people doing the job were useless. Then between seasons, they tried to figure out what the gently caress to do with the old white dude's Black Driver and gave him a real job.
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Mr. Jive posted:Thanks for these, they're really fun to look through. I just noticed how some of the buildings at Starfleet Headquarters have rust stains, or some kind of wear and tear, on them. Didn't expect that in the squeaky clean future. Love the junky-looking maintenance arm, too. Angel One and Starbase 515 are both unique masterpieces.
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Looks like Amazon Prime Video now has TNG seasons 3 and 4 in HD 
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oooooooooooooo Fun holiday vacation coming up.
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Whalley posted:http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Matte_painting This page is the most fantastic place to get phone wallpapers that don't overtly scream Star Trek. I hate how often some of the mattes get used, but they're just really fun future locations. I sort of hope if there's ever a new Star Trek, they do some more outdoor shots that use CG extensions to the set to make some of this stuff look more real. Interesting to see that apparently they moved the Eiffel Tower right up next to the river, then put a huge ugly tube under it. Who needs aesthetics when you can have future tubes? Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I think the idea was, since the ship "ran itself" back then, the chief engineer was a pretty useless position and thus the people doing the job were useless. Then between seasons, they tried to figure out what the gently caress to do with the old white dude's Black Driver and gave him a real job.
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Farecoal posted:Is there any news about HD DS9? This is the only Star Trek news that matters these days, admit it.
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Trent posted:What was with the string of pathetic chief engineers in season one anyway? I swear in one episode Picard said he had two chief engineers, and they were always different people. According to Wil Wheaton, the actor who played Argyle kinda screwed himself. He recruited friends to write in to the producers in support of his character, but the timing was off, so the letters came in before his episode even aired.
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Tighclops posted:This is the only Star Trek news that matters these days, admit it. What about the real reason why the Data action figures had spotty faces?
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Vagabundo posted:What about the real reason why the Data action figures had spotty faces? This is funny but please don't sully the thought of HD DS9 with the thought of that loving guy
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Bicyclops posted:Angel One and Starbase 515 are both unique masterpieces. At least they did a pretty big changeup for Starbase 515 on the blu-rays.
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Nearly 3am and bored. Let's GIS star trek gifs!   
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