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I just want Freespace 3 or Independence War 3.
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# ? Dec 8, 2013 18:47 |
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I just want to explore strange new worlds. And have a space gun.
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# ? Dec 8, 2013 21:13 |
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I'd be happy with just a Freelancer 2. Rebirth gets some points for effort but just doesn't get near enough to what I'm after - I guess it's just probably better to wait for X - Redo, the full feature/price standalone expansion that Egosoft will put out in a year or two.
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 00:52 |
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ZombyDog posted:I'd be happy with just a Freelancer 2. The ancient thread title for TC saying "Freelancer on Steroids" is what first caught my attention for this series. I never got very far at all the various times I took a stab at it because I guess I'm a big dumbface/it always became readily apparent I'd never make it all the way as just "Ace Fighter pilot with a nice bank account and a trader ships in the background". I still love the general style of the X series though, and hope rebirth turns out later or at the very least, maybe sometime manage to wrap my mind around AP, without also having to learn 18 different scripts and mods to make it manageable.
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 01:36 |
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Prediction: 2 years from now, Rebirth or its expansion will be the best space game out.
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 02:28 |
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DancingMachine posted:Prediction: 2 years from now, Rebirth or its expansion will be the best space game out. In two years time you may found everyone here could care less with star cit and elite being out
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 02:40 |
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Star Citizen is pretty different from X, I'm not sure any absence of X games would get me to play it any more than it would get me to play, say, EvE online.
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 03:25 |
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Stevefin posted:In two years time you may found everyone here could care less with star cit and elite being out My point is Rebirth will end up being better than those games.
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 05:22 |
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Well it's definitely going to be better than Star Citizen because Chris Roberts is just going to wait another year for people to give him another 30 million dollars and will then promptly gently caress off to go live on the moon.
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 05:30 |
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VDay posted:Well it's definitely going to be better than Star Citizen because Chris Roberts is just going to wait another year for people to give him another 30 million dollars and will then promptly gently caress off to go live on the moon. He'd be pretty stupid to actually make the game at this point Shalebridge Cradle fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Dec 9, 2013 |
# ? Dec 9, 2013 05:40 |
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Look at how much poo poo people are giving Tim Schafer over the money spent on his Kickstarter. Anything less than the extreme hype set up by 30 million dollars worth of money, the internet will explode and it will be GLORIOUS.
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 05:46 |
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DancingMachine posted:My point is Rebirth will end up being better than those games. truth be told I really, really doubt it, even if star cits crazy feature list only comes out at 50% on launch there won't be game braking bugs and events cause. well there will be alpha and beta tests, and elite is still in a too early to judge all features + I did not back that one. I had one choice and went with star cit quote:Well it's definitely going to be better than Star Citizen because Chris Roberts is just going to wait another year for people to give him another 30 million dollars and will then promptly gently caress off to go live on the moon. quote:He'd be pretty stupid to actually make the game at this point While yes he could be a massive dick and decided that his vision is now to live on the moon and laugh at us for giving him millions of dollars, but such a hit will cripple crowd funded/kickstarter games if one of the most funded game creator decided he wanted a better view on the moon, in a space castle. Though I doubt he will do that. but the success of star cit may make or brake crowd funded game. if it goes well it will show crowd funding is not just for some small game for indies to try and get their feet, but that, basically a triple A game can be funded and brought to success by the community, and well if it flops that may be the end of the short life of crowd funded games.
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 06:52 |
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ZombyDog posted:Rebirth gets some points for effort but just doesn't get near enough to what I'm after - I guess it's just probably better to wait for X - Redo, the full feature/price standalone expansion that Egosoft will put out in a year or two. Does this come out after X - Advance? (It is an Eva film joke)
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 06:58 |
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To be honest, I'm really more excited for Limit Theory than X:Rebirth anymore. It helps that signs point to it coming out sooner than when Rebirth has been patched enough to be not a steaming pile of poo poo.
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 08:02 |
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Stevefin posted:if it flops that may be the end of the short life of crowd funded games. Lord, let it be so.
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 09:39 |
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HiKaizer posted:Does this come out after X - Advance? X-Afterbirth.
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 10:14 |
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Really, really wanted Rebirth to be good, but it seems that it's impossibly dreadful and unfixable. Time to go back to Albion.
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 11:01 |
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At the moment I'd accept Freelancer on gog.com (not going to happen because :microsoft:)
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 11:16 |
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There's no way Star Citizen is going to meet the ridiculous expectations that come with spending hundreds of dollars on a virtual spaceship. Edit: On the other hand, maybe if you spent hundreds of dollars on a virtual spaceship you're willing to justify anything and the game is perfect no matter what. GhostDog fucked around with this message at 12:20 on Dec 9, 2013 |
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Stevefin posted:truth be told I really, really doubt it, even if star cits crazy feature list only comes out at 50% on launch there won't be game braking bugs and events cause. well there will be alpha and beta tests, and elite is still in a too early to judge all features + I did not back that one. I had one choice and went with star cit If you pruned Star Citizen's feature list to 50% its still one of the most ambitious games in history. The fact that they just let the money train continue with more features and ships teased at each milestone means that it can never live up to its own ambition. I'm not saying it won't be a decent space shooter, but holy crap look at what they are promising.
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 12:21 |
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It's been a bit more than a year since I quit this game because the way the warzones worked pissed me off. Has anyone come up with an easy way to put an end to that nonsense since then?
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 17:55 |
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:If you pruned Star Citizen's feature list to 50% its still one of the most ambitious games in history. The fact that they just let the money train continue with more features and ships teased at each milestone means that it can never live up to its own ambition. Not to derail too much, but Star Citizen got a SA Frontpage today.
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 18:45 |
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Lee Outrageous posted:It's been a bit more than a year since I quit this game because the way the warzones worked pissed me off. Has anyone come up with an easy way to put an end to that nonsense since then? I'm pretty sure there is a mod that end the war. I just never used but you'll probably find it on the sticky on the mods section of egosoft forums along with all the other mods.
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 19:36 |
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Out of curiosity and for unrelated reasons, I checked the metascore of my games list on Steam. X Rebirth is the lowest, at 34. The next game up is The Scourge Project at 44, which I got in some bundle during a Halloween sale and wanted to be kind of Gears of War-ish. I can't even find its store page on Steam.
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 22:40 |
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MechaCrash posted:Out of curiosity and for unrelated reasons, I checked the metascore of my games list on Steam. X Rebirth is the lowest, at 34. The next game up is The Scourge Project at 44, which I got in some bundle during a Halloween sale and wanted to be kind of Gears of War-ish. I can't even find its store page on Steam. Hell hath no fury like a gamer scorned. Doubly so if she's female. I just lack the energy or the head injury required to defend it. However, egosoft posted:X Rebirth Update 1.19 Released I know the beta got mentioned, but this is the actual patch release. I may restart the campaign to see if things flow a little better than a brick down a drainpipe.
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# ? Dec 9, 2013 23:14 |
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Personally, I never wanted to be able to walk around in my space sims. Sure, it's nice, but not at the expense of smooth gameplay, polish or anything else. All I've ever really wanted from the genre was steady, incremental improvements on Privateer 2.
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# ? Dec 11, 2013 19:43 |
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That's one of the pissers about it. Eve Online and the X series are not the same game by any stretch, but they're similar enough that they should be paying attention to each other. And when Eve was going to add "you can get out of your ship and walk around on stations," the player base was displeased, to put it lightly. The general reaction, as I recall, was to the tune of "why the hell are you wasting resources on letting people in your SPACESHIP GAME get out of the spaceships that are the entire reason they play?" And that was with Eve promising to add a point to getting out of your ship.
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# ? Dec 12, 2013 02:07 |
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MechaCrash posted:That's one of the pissers about it. Eve Online and the X series are not the same game by any stretch, but they're similar enough that they should be paying attention to each other. And when Eve was going to add "you can get out of your ship and walk around on stations," the player base was displeased, to put it lightly. The general reaction, as I recall, was to the tune of "why the hell are you wasting resources on letting people in your SPACESHIP GAME get out of the spaceships that are the entire reason they play?" The EVE station walking had two problems, only one of which is the same as X-Rebirth. People didn't like station walking in EVE for two reasons... A) It was a thin excuse to sell bullshit cosmetics in a cash shop. This enraged people because the station walking was released alongside a new cash shop that sold cosmetic items for your character at ludicrous prices, to the point that it became obvious that the cash shop items were the reason they made the whole system in the first place. This is the main reason people disliked it in EVE but it doesn't relate to X-Rebirth. B) There was (and still is) no loving point to it. Walking about the station adds nothing to EVE at all, and it's the same in X-Rebirth. There is nothing you can do (or would want to) walking about the station that you couldn't do anywhere.
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# ? Dec 12, 2013 03:38 |
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Chomp8645 posted:There was (and still is) no loving point to it. Really good performance data on wide deployment for the WoD MMO, and you'd presume Dust514, although that's become quite odd in it's own right because of the balancing problems and the now overdue economic apocalypse that linking the games will bring. So, after 1.19 hit I decided to restart the campaign, and now it's merely stilted and janky rather than being utterly loving broken, although I am just before the second attempt to dump Yisha. Trading is happening, and appears to be happening elsewhere, although it's too early to tell. One minor aspect of the last patch was to give you the ability to turn the cockpit off; you have to bind your own key for it. Peep this; http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=203120295 - without http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=203120279 - with I can kinda see the vision that loving around with the stations and missions _should_ eat the time that you used to spend under SETA, and that linear distances for freighters appear to be shorter, but it's still not hugely compelling, although my earlier assessment that they've managed to give this a sense of scale missing from the earlier games. The station sections can suck a fat one. They're an extraneous pilfer zone with horrible controls that feels wedged in where a menu system would suffice. They're also attempting to do the proud father thing of gradually removing the training wheels throughout the campaign, but between the jank ('You came though' instead of 'You came through', 'cache' pronounce 'catch') and the early bugs it was difficult to tell if you were expected to have worked something out, or the game was just stuck. The center screen has been behaving itself since the patch and restart, too. I also have to say that the challenge appears to have been raised; instead of facing single ships on easy combat missions I've been thrown formations of six fighters.
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# ? Dec 12, 2013 06:20 |
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Maybe they'll have a barely stable launch by Christmas.
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# ? Dec 12, 2013 07:07 |
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I just want EVE with ships you actually pilot. Why is this so hard?
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# ? Dec 12, 2013 15:19 |
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The space genre is the Scottish Play of video games.
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# ? Dec 12, 2013 15:26 |
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kedo posted:I just want EVE with ships you actually pilot. Why is this so hard? That would be the worst game. Enjoy carefully undocking only to be instantly killed by a blob of space autists. Laterbase fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Dec 12, 2013 |
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Laterbase posted:That would be the worst game. Enjoy carefully docking only to be instantly killed by a blob of space autists. Except that we are that blob of space autists
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# ? Dec 12, 2013 16:45 |
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Tarq posted:Except that we are that blob of space autists Not exactly famous for not shooting blues. But the reasons are more likely technical, it desyncs and lags as is, even without everyone trying fancy piloting. Besides hit/miss is still a dice roll and not modeling shot trajectory, so fancy piloting gets mostly pointless, and adding that too will cause even heavier load.
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# ? Dec 12, 2013 17:30 |
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Destructoid put out a review of X Rebirth today and basically shat all over it. http://www.destructoid.com/review-x-rebirth-267065.phtml quote:The new features in X Rebirth are highways to travel faster, the ability to scan stations to gather information, the ability to leave your ship and walk around, and a new way of trading goods. All of these additions are garbage and I am not even going to bother explaining them
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# ? Dec 13, 2013 02:23 |
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Hopefully Rebirth is fixed by the time I go to buy it. I think I'll wait till summer of next year..or maybe 2015. Maybe, just maybe, it'll be fixed by then.
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# ? Dec 13, 2013 04:59 |
So much potential...so poorly executed. Rebirth is the first game in the series that I've had to actively will myself to play.
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# ? Dec 13, 2013 07:46 |
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If anyone's still trying to get a refund for Rebirth, keep at it. I got mine yesterday after like a month of back and forth. After my ticket was closed I reopened it and copy pasted my request. Apparently Steam Support Robbie succumbs to his own copy paste repetition tactics, because simply asking again in exactly the same way was all that was needed to convince him. Bought Albion Prelude and had a little go. Still burnt out from how much Terran Conflict I played last month, but at least I now own the ultimate edition of the last good Egosoft game.
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# ? Dec 13, 2013 12:19 |
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cat boots posted:If anyone's still trying to get a refund for Rebirth, keep at it. I got mine yesterday after like a month of back and forth. After my ticket was closed I reopened it and copy pasted my request. They outright refused cause I had played it for a few hours trying to find the game. Did they use this excuse on you?
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# ? Dec 13, 2013 13:42 |