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beatlegs posted:So what Politifact originally gave a "half true" rating now gets "Lie Of The Year"? lol, whatever. Politifact is about as relevent as The New York Post at this point. It won't stop the media from misinterpreting it anyways.
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quote:Fox News host Megyn Kelly has made herself the center of a racial controversy by declaring that Jesus Christ and Santa Claus are white. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/12/megyn-kelly-santa-white-jesus_n_4431613.html Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 13:34 on Dec 13, 2013 |
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# ? Dec 13, 2013 13:28 |
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Santa Claus being white is something conservative assholes do to make something an issue when it doesn't have to be. Jesus being "confirmed" as white is just chumming the waters for a whole Fox News white conservatives vs. any rational human being. It makes literally no sense for an Aramaic man living in the Palestine/Jerusalem area 2000 years ago to have the complexion and eye color of a people living 1000+ miles away.
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# ? Dec 13, 2013 13:45 |
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But the guy in the painting behind the pulpit in my church is white! It must be historically accurate!
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Yeah, I just thought it was worth posting because it's so horrible on so many levels especially the way she's directly talking to kids. "Hey little black and hispanic kids! Your parents are liars, Santa and Jesus are white, because God loves white people more! That's just a fact, deal!" Plus the reliance on "historical figure / verifiable fact" when it is anything but. I mean, even as a yule-celebrating pagan I can kinda see an argument along the lines of "well, St Nicholas was scandinavian" but she doesn't even mention that, just dives full on into the racist crazy.
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Joementum posted:In case you need any last minute Kwanzaa gift ideas, you can now get one of these 1oz coins for the low price of $2400. LowellDND posted:About when all the liberals realized "liberal" was a slur and started calling themselves progressives. Its a moving target.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Plus the reliance on "historical figure / verifiable fact" when it is anything but. I mean, even as a yule-celebrating pagan I can kinda see an argument along the lines of "well, St Nicholas was scandinavian" but she doesn't even mention that, just dives full on into the racist crazy. St Nicholas was a Greek from Asia Minor. His birthplace is currently in Turkey.
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# ? Dec 13, 2013 14:26 |
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Didn't Politifact get in trouble a couple of years back for claiming that the death panels garbage was not false?
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# ? Dec 13, 2013 14:59 |
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I would think that the literal daily bald faced lies and horrible racism spewed by GOP talking heads and state house members everywhere would be better material than a thing Obama said that one time, but some people have a pathological need for the truth to be in the middle and for milquetoast centrism to win I guess.
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I suggest a compromise on the whole white Santa thing. What if it's a white guy but in blackface? He'd get pretty sooty going down the chimney anyway.
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icantfindaname posted:I would think that the literal daily bald faced lies and horrible racism spewed by GOP talking heads and state house members everywhere would be better material than a thing Obama said that one time, but some people have a pathological need for the truth to be in the middle and for milquetoast centrism to win I guess. Yeah, I'd like to think it's partly that people get falsehood fatigue from the Republicans because they lie blatantly and intentionally all the time, so you can't really pick out one thing they say that is particularly egregious and horrible. Whereas Obama said that one thing that could have been either a lie or a really dumb mistake, so it gets focused on. Ed.: Not to say that Obama has only lied once ever, just that this particular statement was pretty obviously wrong in a very consequential way. Eletriarnation fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Dec 13, 2013 |
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Darkman Fanpage posted:OH GOD HE'S WEARING BOW-TIES NOW?! Haha, wow. That's great. Paging John Stewart, we have another idiot in a bow-tie for you to humiliate on live TV.
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# ? Dec 13, 2013 16:33 |
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ReindeerF posted:And liberals, who love being aggrieved, will go on to flee that name too instead of simply saying, "Yeah, I am a loving liberal. Got a problem?" The whole left needs to take a lesson from the gay activists who said, "Queer? We're taking that motherfucker back." The slutwalk stuff was the last thing I can think of along these lines. Although having a name which is criticized on both the right and left and whose definition literally means "excessive" might be damaging.
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Eletriarnation posted:Yeah, I'd like to think it's partly that people get falsehood fatigue from the Republicans because they lie blatantly and intentionally all the time, so you can't really pick out one thing they say that is particularly egregious and horrible. The real issue at hand is that it's a soundbite that encapsulates something requiring nuance. The full statement should have been "You can keep your plan if you like it AND if it isn't a bullshit insurance policy that is going to be outlawed quite soon because it's predatory and doesn't actually cover you in any meaningful way." However the president is a liar and omg he's the worst thing since zombie gay Hitler. Politifact rates this: Mostly True
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Phone posted:The real issue at hand is that it's a soundbite that encapsulates something requiring nuance. The full statement should have been "You can keep your plan if you like it AND if it isn't a bullshit insurance policy that is going to be outlawed quite soon because it's predatory and doesn't actually cover you in any meaningful way." add in "..or unless you insurance provider is greedy and decides to dump plans that aren't as profitable." Obama never fails to overestimate the goodness of companies or his opponents.
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ashgromnies posted:I suggest a compromise on the whole white Santa thing. What if it's a white guy but in blackface? He'd get pretty sooty going down the chimney anyway. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3576419 The Dutch have had you covered for like 150 years here, although I guess technically Old Black Pete is Santa's helper and not Santa himself.
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# ? Dec 14, 2013 03:00 |
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Trump is the worst kind of troll.
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# ? Dec 14, 2013 03:02 |
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Oh Trump, when can YOU die in a plane crash?
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# ? Dec 14, 2013 03:19 |
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CommieGIR posted:Oh Trump, when can YOU die in a plane crash? Quick someone dare him to buy a solid gold plane on twitter!
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# ? Dec 14, 2013 03:46 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:Trump is the worst kind of troll.
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# ? Dec 14, 2013 03:50 |
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And you know what? Tomorrow or the next day he'll be invited on whatever mainstream network show to pontificate and share his wisdom on some unrelated matter, as if he's a perfectly rational and important figure.
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# ? Dec 14, 2013 03:51 |
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Well the AM radio circuit has picked up on the white santa thing, and you'd never guess what their opinion of the matter is. It's that santa's white identity needs to be defended against the multicultural PC gestapo trying to destroy white culture, also black people are the real racists for even pointing this whole thing out. It did bring a smile to my face to see my local radio man, who usually paints himself as somewhat moderate, go into nearly full stormfront mode about white nordic culture being under assault. It was glorious because his own callers were basically telling him to tone it down and he's saying "BU BU BUT THE PC GESTAPO MUST BE FOUGHT". He then segued into complaining about how Christianity was being oppressed as well. icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Dec 14, 2013 |
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Have any other conservatives said a word about White Jesus, or are they staying away from that one? Edit: Oh, apparently, Kelly has an update on this: "By the way, I also did say Jesus was white. As I've learned in the past two days, that is far from settled." Haha. Lycus fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Dec 14, 2013 |
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ISN'T IT STRANGE HOW SOMETIMES PEOPLE WHO DO THINGS DIE REALLY MAKES YOU THINK
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# ? Dec 14, 2013 04:21 |
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Lycus posted:Have any other conservatives said a word about White Jesus, or are they staying away from that one? Backing down is showing weakness so I'm sure plenty of lovely conservative commentators will parrot this too. Also applies to this VV Radio Nowhere fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Dec 14, 2013 |
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Is Donald Trump seriously talking about that birther bullshit again? Hasn't that been thoroughly debunked like a thousand times?
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# ? Dec 14, 2013 04:31 |
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Is Donald Trump seriously talking about that birther bullshit again? Hasn't that been thoroughly debunked like a thousand times? He's got Top MenTM working on a lead in Hawaii. They say they're just days away from cracking this case wide open! For real this time, guys.
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# ? Dec 14, 2013 04:34 |
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Generic American posted:Top MenTM Just where Jesse Ventura thought his birth certificate was...
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# ? Dec 14, 2013 04:40 |
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You know, one thing I'm kind of wondering...Ted Cruz, a guy that's apparently Hispanic and from Canada, is the darling of the right wing media. They worship this little poo poo. But they also won't shut the gently caress up about Obama being Kenyan by birth and also not white. What happens when they decide Ted Cruz should be president?
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# ? Dec 14, 2013 05:25 |
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I remember Cruz hand waving away the idea that he couldn't be president by simply saying "No, its ok, my mom is an american citizen", did I imagine this? Also, thats not how it works.
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# ? Dec 14, 2013 05:32 |
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Days later Donald Trump would die when his toupee spontaneously combusted. Coincidence? Squidster posted:The kind that doesn't turn to stone in sunlight? Um, those are GARGOYLES...
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# ? Dec 14, 2013 05:36 |
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No, Cruz is right (saying this is painful); he has citizenship, from birth, through his American mother, who had lived in the US for at least five years. I don't think there's anything saying dual citizens can't be president either.
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# ? Dec 14, 2013 05:38 |
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Well Cruz is right, and that is why the media attacking Obama over his is even more hilariously stupid
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I know there some people who would say that not how it works, but they would have to take it to the courts when he runs. But as far as I think most people are concerned, being a citizen in any way at the time of your birth is good enough for "natural born citizen".
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Autumncomet posted:No, Cruz is right (saying this is painful); he has citizenship, from birth, through his American mother, who had lived in the US for at least five years. I don't think there's anything saying dual citizens can't be president either. He did renounce his Canadian citizenship recently to appease the birther crowd, though. Now half of them think he's okay and the other half don't but won't complain very loudly if he does run.
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Republicans posted:He did renounce his Canadian citizenship recently to appease the birther crowd, though. Now half of them think he's okay and the other half don't but won't complain very loudly if he does run. Not officially. There is a process and a fee. You can't just declare it renounced and be shot of it
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# ? Dec 14, 2013 05:54 |
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Rygar201 posted:Not officially. There is a process and a fee. You can't just declare it renounced and be shot of it Are you somehow suggesting that it may have been a publicity stunt on the part of the Honorable Senator?
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ShortStack posted:Are you somehow suggesting that it may have been a publicity stunt on the part of the Honorable Senator? Well, you wouldn't want to actually give up your access to truly universal health care and a good safety net, would you?
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The plane assassinated the health director.
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