beatlegs posted:

So what Politifact originally gave a "half true" rating now gets "Lie Of The Year"? lol, whatever. Politifact is about as relevent as The New York Post at this point.

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Fox News host Megyn Kelly has made herself the center of a racial controversy by declaring that Jesus Christ and Santa Claus are white.

On Wednesday night, Kelly was responding to an article by Slate writer Aisha Harris, who wrote an article entitled “ Santa Claus Should Not Be a White Man Anymore .”

The popular news host told viewers of “The Kelly File,” her hit FNC program, “When I saw this headline, I kinda laughed and I said, ‘Oh, this is ridiculous. Yet another person claiming it's racist to have a white Santa.’ And by the way, for all you kids watching at home, Santa just is white. But this person is maybe just arguing that we should also have a black Santa. But, you know, Santa is what he is, and just so you know, we're just debating this because someone wrote about it, kids.”

Of course, a number of critics were quick to point out that Santa Claus is a fictional character. And while he was based on St. Nicholas, a white man, his exact description is largely left up to individual interpretation.

However, after a guest on Kelly’s show defended the Slate article, Kelly extended her argument to further claim that the historical figure Jesus Christ was in fact Caucasian:

“Just because it makes you feel uncomfortable doesn't mean it has to change. You know, I mean, Jesus was a white man, too,” Kelly said. “He was a historical figure; that's a verifiable fact — as is Santa, I want you kids watching to know that — but my point is: How do you revise it, in the middle of the legacy of the story, and change Santa from white to black?”

Unlike Santa, the racial heritage of Jesus Christ has been debated for years. Technically, the New Testament does not contain a description of his skin pigment, though most modern Western depictions do portray him as a white man. Though there is little to no factual or scholarly work on the biblical figure’s racial heritage, a 2011 BBC documentary “Son of God” attempted to create a modern composite of what Jesus might have looked like. The analysis concluded that such a historic figure would likely have had dark skin, based on the Middle Eastern desert climate in which the New Testament stories took place. “Experts have decided Jesus would have been anything but pearly white,” the BBC declared.

Interestingly, Kelly’s opinion offering comes only days after she told Jay Leno, “I am a straight news anchor. I am not one of the opinion hosts at Fox.”

Harris responded to Kelly’s broadcast , noting her piece was intended to be “a little tongue-in-cheek,” but nonetheless declared, “If you’re seriously emphatic that he is white and must remain white, there’s a good chance that your view of the rest of the world is just as limited and unimaginative. I mean, we are talking about a magical man who slides down your chimney every Christmas Eve. Just so we’re clear.”

Joementum posted:

In case you need any last minute Kwanzaa gift ideas, you can now get one of these 1oz coins for the low price of $2400.

LowellDND posted:

About when all the liberals realized "liberal" was a slur and started calling themselves progressives. Its a moving target.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Plus the reliance on "historical figure / verifiable fact" when it is anything but. I mean, even as a yule-celebrating pagan I can kinda see an argument along the lines of "well, St Nicholas was scandinavian" but she doesn't even mention that, just dives full on into the racist crazy.

icantfindaname posted:

I would think that the literal daily bald faced lies and horrible racism spewed by GOP talking heads and state house members everywhere would be better material than a thing Obama said that one time, but some people have a pathological need for the truth to be in the middle and for milquetoast centrism to win I guess.

Darkman Fanpage posted:

OH GOD HE'S WEARING BOW-TIES NOW?! Haha, wow. That's great.

ReindeerF posted:

And liberals, who love being aggrieved, will go on to flee that name too instead of simply saying, "Yeah, I am a loving liberal. Got a problem?" The whole left needs to take a lesson from the gay activists who said, "Queer? We're taking that motherfucker back." The slutwalk stuff was the last thing I can think of along these lines.

Eletriarnation posted:

Yeah, I'd like to think it's partly that people get falsehood fatigue from the Republicans because they lie blatantly and intentionally all the time, so you can't really pick out one thing they say that is particularly egregious and horrible.

Whereas Obama said that one thing that could have been either a lie or a really dumb mistake, so it gets focused on.

Ed.: Not to say that Obama has only lied once ever, just that this particular statement was pretty obviously wrong in a very consequential way.

Phone posted:

The real issue at hand is that it's a soundbite that encapsulates something requiring nuance. The full statement should have been "You can keep your plan if you like it AND if it isn't a bullshit insurance policy that is going to be outlawed quite soon because it's predatory and doesn't actually cover you in any meaningful way."

However the president is a liar and omg he's the worst thing since zombie gay Hitler. Politifact rates this: Mostly True

ashgromnies posted:

I suggest a compromise on the whole white Santa thing. What if it's a white guy but in blackface? He'd get pretty sooty going down the chimney anyway.

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CommieGIR posted:

Oh Trump, when can YOU die in a plane crash?

FlamingLiberal posted:

Trump is the worst kind of troll.

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Lycus posted:

Have any other conservatives said a word about White Jesus, or are they staying away from that one?

ToxicSlurpee posted:

Is Donald Trump seriously talking about that birther bullshit again? Hasn't that been thoroughly debunked like a thousand times?

Generic American posted:

Top Men^TM

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Squidster posted:

The kind that doesn't turn to stone in sunlight?

Autumncomet posted:

No, Cruz is right (saying this is painful); he has citizenship, from birth, through his American mother, who had lived in the US for at least five years. I don't think there's anything saying dual citizens can't be president either.

Republicans posted:

He did renounce his Canadian citizenship recently to appease the birther crowd, though. Now half of them think he's okay and the other half don't but won't complain very loudly if he does run.

Rygar201 posted:

Not officially. There is a process and a fee. You can't just declare it renounced and be shot of it

ShortStack posted:

Are you somehow suggesting that it may have been a publicity stunt on the part of the Honorable Senator?

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