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It's going to be unfortunate when the pin that bursts the bubble is Guardians of the Galaxy.
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Just a quick reminder that the comic book trend started nearly fifteen years ago, and really has never been stronger. It might fall back from the over-saturation of the Marvel stuff, the Marvel stuff looks like it has at least a good five years in it.
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Dec 13, 2013 14:48
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Timeless Appeal posted:Just a quick reminder that the comic book trend started nearly fifteen years ago, and really has never been stronger. It might fall back from the over-saturation of the Marvel stuff, the Marvel stuff looks like it has at least a good five years in it. Avengers 1 was great fun, but I don't know whether I'll be able to watch an Avengers 3.
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Dec 13, 2013 15:06
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ufarn posted:It's not necessarily comicbook saturation as much as it's the success of comicbook movies and TV shows coinciding with an all-time low in original-IP creation. It's an epidemic of sequelitis, and the tier-based Marvel model (and if the gods will it, DC too) takes it to another level. Doesn't matter if you'll be able to. It only matters that the 17-25 year old male who saw Avengers 1 on Blu-Ray back in the day and loved it and wished they'd seen it on the big screen is able to.
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Dec 13, 2013 15:11
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PupsOfWar posted:I reckon it'll last a bit longer if they (studios) stop feeling like they need to do Origin Story Movie for every cape who shows up. Gotta broaden the narrative scope a bit. People like to be there at the beginning.
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Dec 13, 2013 16:01
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Deadpool posted:It's going to be unfortunate when the pin that bursts the bubble is Guardians of the Galaxy. If Guardians fails, which could easily happen, rather than fully bursting I can see Marvel taking it as a sign to only do established Avengers characters for future films.
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Dec 13, 2013 16:14
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The Guardians are really cool and I really hope people see the movie.
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Dec 13, 2013 16:17
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Guardians could go either way at this point, but I think the fact that it's even happening in the first place is kind of incredible, and shows that Marvel (for now) isn't afraid to take chances on weird poo poo. Like, for as safe as something like Avengers is, they've pulled off some really subversive stuff as of late. Look at Iron Man 3, for example.
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Dec 13, 2013 16:20
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Hakkesshu posted:Guardians could go either way at this point, but I think the fact that it's even happening in the first place is kind of incredible, and shows that Marvel (for now) isn't afraid to take chances on weird poo poo. Like, for as safe as something like Avengers is, they've pulled off some really subversive stuff as of late. Look at Iron Man 3, for example. I hope this means Thor 3 will be a Throg film.
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Dec 13, 2013 16:24
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They really need to do a superhero animals film with marvel properties from Disney animation like, yesterday. I'd say Pixar but they probably consider licensed content beneath them. Also a Howard the Duck sequel from George Lucas. No reboots please.
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Dec 13, 2013 16:28
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If the credits scene from Thor is any indication the Guardians movie is going to be pretty crazy.
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Dec 13, 2013 16:32
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mr.capps posted:I hope this means Thor 3 will be a Throg film. Thor, Asgard and Beta Ray Bill vs the Celestials. The after credits will spin off Throg.
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Dec 13, 2013 16:32
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greatn posted:They really need to do a superhero animals film with marvel properties from Disney animation like, yesterday. I'd say Pixar but they probably consider licensed content beneath them. There are actually a fair number of superhero animal films, animated or otherwise, already produced (Turbo, G-Force, Underdog, to name a few). With the exception of Bolt, however, these sort of movies do not perform well critically, especially considering how lenient people tend to be toward children's movies. Maybe Disney can make it work but the genre feels particularly creatively bankrupt. They still make fucktons of money, of course, so what do I know.
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Dec 13, 2013 16:49
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Power Pack seems perfectly setup as a Marvel kids movie if they wanted to do it. I'm surprised that Big Hero 6 is the one that's getting made
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Dec 13, 2013 17:04
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Enough people have made enough money over enough time that I think superhero movies are a fairly permanent genre, like westerns or monster movies. There will be periods with more and fewer made, but it isn't going to be like the Schumaker Batmans, where those movies died and nobody talked about another superhero movie for years.
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Dec 13, 2013 17:14
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StumblyWumbly posted:Enough people have made enough money over enough time that I think superhero movies are a fairly permanent genre, like westerns or monster movies. There will be periods with more and fewer made, but it isn't going to be like the Schumaker Batmans, where those movies died and nobody talked about another superhero movie for years. 1999 was pretty much the only year after Batman and Robin that there weren't any superhero films out.
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Dec 13, 2013 17:21
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Strontosaurus posted:There are actually a fair number of superhero animal films, animated or otherwise, already produced (Turbo, G-Force, Underdog, to name a few). With the exception of Bolt, however, these sort of movies do not perform well critically, especially considering how lenient people tend to be toward children's movies. Maybe Disney can make it work but the genre feels particularly creatively bankrupt. They still make fucktons of money, of course, so what do I know. Yeah but those aren't marvel characters. Does Marvel or Sony own the rights to Spider-Ham?
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Dec 13, 2013 17:24
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I know there have been rumors for years about a Runaways film but I doubt that happens.
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Dec 13, 2013 17:28
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greatn posted:Yeah but those aren't marvel characters. Does Marvel or Sony own the rights to Spider-Ham? Disney  Sony traded Disney the cartoon rights for Spider-Man in return for more film rights the last time they were expiring.
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Dec 13, 2013 17:28
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greatn posted:They really need to do a superhero animals film with marvel properties from Disney animation like, yesterday. No way, give me a Beasts of Burden movie. 
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Dec 13, 2013 17:35
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Every phase 3 should start with a Pixar animated Pet Avengers short. That would make Disney a few billion
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Dec 13, 2013 17:45
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FlamingLiberal posted:I know there have been rumors for years about a Runaways film but I doubt that happens. Runaways would probably work best as a Phase 2 to the Netflix thing. The story is a little much for a movie but not meaty enough for an ongoing TV show. A miniseries would be perfect for it.
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Dec 13, 2013 18:35
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Deadpool posted:It's going to be unfortunate when the pin that bursts the bubble is Guardians of the Galaxy. I really hope the Marvel Cinematic Universe survives the occasional misfire. If GOTG is that misfire, that would be unfortunate, but it would be amazing if the MCU proves resilient enough to make it worth continuing to take chances. And also, I'd hate to see things lapse back into the interminable five-yearly reboot cycle. greatn posted:I'd say Pixar but they probably consider licensed content beneath them. All or nothing. Pixar Superman. I know what the rights situation is and I don't care.
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Dec 13, 2013 19:25
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I think they're riding enough of a high that "from the makers of The Avengers and Iron Man" will be enough to make GotG a success
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Dec 13, 2013 19:29
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Opopanax posted:I think they're riding enough of a high that "from the makers of The Avengers and Iron Man" will be enough to make GotG a success Yeah, a lot is going to depend on how they market it, because on a base level it's not really similar to other superhero movies, but more of a space-adventure, closer to something like Star Trek or, er, John Carter. Well, at least I assume so, I guess we won't know until the trailer hits and we get a better feel for its tone. But it's probably a deliberate choice on Marvel's part to separate it from other superhero films. Hakkesshu fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Dec 13, 2013 |
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Dec 13, 2013 19:36
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Should have thrown Iron Man on the team to boost the sales. You could even throw in the awkward sex scene with him and Gamora.
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Dec 13, 2013 19:57
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Here's a subtitled international Amazing Spider-Man trailer which focuses more on the humor side of things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z61rmiN35E
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Dec 13, 2013 20:10
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qntm posted:I really hope the Marvel Cinematic Universe survives the occasional misfire. If GOTG is that misfire, that would be unfortunate, but it would be amazing if the MCU proves resilient enough to make it worth continuing to take chances. The Incredible Hulk was the misfire.
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Dec 13, 2013 20:16
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Bongo Bill posted:The Incredible Hulk was the misfire. Despite being better than either of the first two Iron Man movies, and at least on par with Thor.
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Dec 13, 2013 20:29
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The Incredible Hulk wasn't even all that terrible, just mediocre. I'd probably watch it again, once. I want a new Howard the Duck but that will never happen. He could replace Squirrel Girl in the great lakes Avengers since she's a mutant so probably belongs with Fox. Or supplement her if Disney has the rights. Beverly should be played by someone who probably can't act, like Kate Upton or something.
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Dec 13, 2013 20:30
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Waterhaul posted:Here's a subtitled international Amazing Spider-Man trailer which focuses more on the humor side of things. For some reason, I think the webswinging/CGI stuff looked a lot better in that trailer compared to the first one. Also nice to see Rhino pre-costume. Bongo Bill posted:The Incredible Hulk was the misfire. It wasn't a bad movie and I bet if Norton wasn't notoriously difficult to work with, he'd probably still be on. Then again, did Marvel really think they could low ball and gently caress with Edward Norton like they could to the relatively fresh talent they got for Thor, Cap, Hawkeye and Widow? I also thought the supporting cast for most of Hulk was really weak. So glad the guy from Modern Family never got the chance to really play Doc Samson.
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Dec 13, 2013 20:39
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I liked The Incredible Hulk a lot more than I expected to; it was the only Phase One movie I hadn't seen at that point and I didn't really expect great things from it, but it was a fun action movie.
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Dec 13, 2013 20:49
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I think a Hulk sequel could have been a success post-Avengers, but we're past that point now. Maybe in Phase 3.
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Dec 13, 2013 21:10
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notthegoatseguy posted:It wasn't a bad movie and I bet if Norton wasn't notoriously difficult to work with, he'd probably still be on. Then again, did Marvel really think they could low ball and gently caress with Edward Norton like they could to the relatively fresh talent they got for Thor, Cap, Hawkeye and Widow? I think there's a difference between lowballing an actor and refusing to give them direct control on the script and film editing.
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Dec 13, 2013 21:32
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^^^^ Hence the "notoriously difficult to work with". I'm not a film buff but my understanding is that is fairly standard for Norton.FlamingLiberal posted:I think a Hulk sequel could have been a success post-Avengers, but we're past that point now. Maybe in Phase 3. I think Marvel's thinking was they don't want to risk if the new Hulk wasn't as well received as he ended up being. I also wonder when we'll be seeing Hawkeye outside of the Avengers films. He was in Thor but it doesn't look like he'll be in any phase 2 films outside of Avengers 2.
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Dec 13, 2013 21:34
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My Hawkeye dream movie is them just doing Hawkguy. It would let them do something with the character that didn't necessarily have to be a big deal.
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Dec 13, 2013 21:37
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Chaos Hippy posted:Despite being better than either of the first two Iron Man movies, and at least on par with Thor. To each their own, but I don't hear many folks preferring Thor 1 and Hulk over Iron Man 1, the Marvel movie that started this phenomenon really. What do you like about them over IM? IM2 I can understand.
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Dec 13, 2013 22:53
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muscles like this? posted:My Hawkeye dream movie is them just doing Hawkguy. It would let them do something with the character that didn't necessarily have to be a big deal. I wonder if they could retool that Deadpool script to have Hawkeye show up instead of Colossus. Deadpool's not a mutant, his rights really shouldn't be with Fox.
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Dec 13, 2013 23:02
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^^^He may not be a mutant, but he is an X-Men character in every other meaningful way. His powers are a product of Weapon X, he regularly affiliates with X-types, going so far as to join Wolverine's incarnation of X-Force, and if I'm not mistaken, his earliest appearances were in the X-Force comics of old. And that's not mentioning the importance of his relationship with Cable.Electromax posted:To each their own, but I don't hear many folks preferring Thor 1 and Hulk over Iron Man 1, the Marvel movie that started this phenomenon really. What do you like about them over IM? IM2 I can understand. I think the main reason Hulk works better than Iron Man for me is that keeping the superpowers off-screen for most of the movie makes a lot more sense with the Hulk. That and the whole monster-movie aesthetic that was briefly discussed upthread. Honestly though, it's less about me loving The Incredible Hulk and more about me not liking Iron Man all that much. Maybe it's asking too much, but I'd rather see an Iron Man movie with more than ten minutes of actual Iron Man content. Full disclosure: Haven't seen 3, and turned off 2 about half an hour in because I didn't enjoy the first 25 minutes nearly enough to justify waiting that long for 3 minutes of Iron Man action. Curiously enough, that also describes my relationship with Sam Raimi's attempts at Spider-Man. haitfais fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Dec 13, 2013 |
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Dec 13, 2013 23:28
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He is not in the suit for action sequences very much at all until near the end of Iron Man 3, so maybe you wouldn't like it, but I think this actually made the movie better and the out of suit action sequences are very inventive and show off the character's ingenuity and improvisation really well. Check it out. Bonus: It's a christmas movie, so it's a perfect time.
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Dec 13, 2013 23:45
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