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Yeah, I don't own the S versions but from what I understand they're mostly the same as the original models aside from the case styling. I used the G500 for 3 years or so and recently switched to the G400 and I've found it to be a little more responsive when playing FPSes. The only thing I don't like is not being able to tilt the scroll wheel to scroll horizontally and that the G400 is a little lighter.
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Got my DeathAdder in the mail today. I really want to like it because it does has a great feel to it, but I can't get used to a palm mouse. I've been using a G9x for years now. Is there any sort of replacement for the G9x? Apparently I am a fingertip grip person. Logitech seems to have discontinued this form factor in their new lineup 
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Just chiming in to say that I still really like my SteelSeries Sensei Black after ~1 year (at least 8 months). I used to use an Intellimouse Explorer, but this has been a great replacement and has a minimal amount of extra bullshit.
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So you guys recommend the base 400 over either the S(is it seriously only styling) or the 500? Is there any reason that the higher models are, from what you guys making it seem, actually not as good as the 400?
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You probably don't need the extra DPI (i mean maybe you're one of very few people that actually uses above 3600) and optical is generally more reliable/accurate than laser
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Bob NewSCART posted:So you guys recommend the base 400 over either the S(is it seriously only styling) or the 500? Is there any reason that the higher models are, from what you guys making it seem, actually not as good as the 400? I went from a MX518(G400s relative) to a Razer Naga to a G600, and I still feel that the MX518 had the best tracking.
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Bob NewSCART posted:So you guys recommend the base 400 over either the S(is it seriously only styling) or the 500? Is there any reason that the higher models are, from what you guys making it seem, actually not as good as the 400? Sorry, in my post at least I meant the 400S over the 500S. Definitely get the 400S over the 400 as the S has a reinforced cable to prevent internal fraying (what killed my G9).
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Yeah, I was just referencing G400 vs. G500 as it's what I own, get the new version.
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My G9x is starting to flake on me (I think the cable is loose). Since there doesn't seem to be any chance of a direct replacement I'm having trouble choosing. I slightly prefer optical mice and I have small hands/claw grip and require 5 buttons but don't use more than that. I was looking at either the G500s (because I love the scroll wheel) or the Zowie FK. I read some reviews about the Zowie that make it sound like the scroll wheel is excessively chunky -- I consider the G9x wheel to be perfect in that it is clicky and easy to always flick one time when you want to, or to give a more substantial turn when you want that instead. I had a M500 with the dual mode and loved it, the G9x has the switch on the bottom which is much less useful but still nice to have. Other than the scroll wheel, the zowie FK seems to be half a cm smaller in every dimension and optical. I'm a little unsure about the coating on the FK. So has anyone used an FK for a long time? Does the scroll wheel become smoother over time (one review mentioned it did over the course of the review), does the coating hold up? Reviews are nice and all but a mouse holding up a year later is more what I'm after. Is there another, smaller mouse with good quality and 5 buttons?
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If you're not afraid of voiding warranties/etc then you can usually mod scroll wheels to be free spinning by just taking the mouse apart and removing the little ratchet that increments the wheel action. I actually did that by accident with an old MX510 that I was taking the weight out of. Totally invented the free-spinning wheel before Logitech did 
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I don't like leaving it in freespin mode when I play games. With the M500 I could flick it on when on really long webpages or PDFs, with the G9x it was so much a burden to turn the mouse over it was off most of the time I'd have wanted it on. I was hesitant to look at Razer stuff because of old bias but I discovered that the Taipan is just about the same size as the FK. I don't know much about Zowie and I figure Razer may have changed in the 10 years or so since I looked seriously at non-logitech mice. I hear their software sucks, is there anything else I should know?
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So I've been using Razer deathadders for about 5 years now and I've not had much chance to try out other mice, but I dropped my deathadder when unpacking my desktop at home, and the left mouse button seems to not register a click one in 10-15 clicks. I'm a palm grip person, and I've been hearing the Logitech g500 is good? Anything else you guys would recommend?
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Can anyone think of a good quality, reasonably priced mouse that meets all (or most) of these requirements: - Wireless - Optical - Rechargeable? - No stupid coating or anything like that - No drivers needed - No dumb 'gaming' gimmicks or anything. Rechargeable I suppose is optional but I'd rather something I never have to replace the batteries on. 5 buttons isn't really needed but would be a nice bonus. Second question, how does the Logitech G100 stand up as a simple/cheap wired mouse?
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:Can anyone think of a good quality, reasonably priced mouse that meets all (or most) of these requirements:
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What the deal on those BlueTrack sensors on those? Never even heard of them before. I need something that handles hair and crap getting in there really well is the main thing.
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:I need something that handles hair and crap getting in there really well is the main thing. Are you mousing on a dog? This is a problem looking for a non-tech solution.
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The left button on my RAT5 just started double clicking on me, so I decided to replace it and went for a Logitech G700s, as per your collective recommendation. I have never used a more perfect mouse, both for gaming and general use. The ergonomics are perfect, response is instantaneous, tracking is butter smooth, and even the software is nothing to complain about. I couldn't be happier with this mouse, I don't know why I ever stopped using Logitech peripherals.
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HalloKitty posted:Are you mousing on a dog? This is a problem looking for a non-tech solution. Animal hairs get in mice sensors, poo poo happens. Some mice (ie every Laser mouse I've ever used) poo poo themselves hardcore when this happens, some mice (ie every Optical mouse I've ever used) handle them without a problem. I have no idea what specifically those BlueTrack sensors are but they seem to be just laser mice from what I can find, so I'll probably give them a pass.
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:Animal hairs get in mice sensors, poo poo happens. Some mice (ie every Laser mouse I've ever used) poo poo themselves hardcore when this happens, some mice (ie every Optical mouse I've ever used) handle them without a problem. I have no idea what specifically those BlueTrack sensors are but they seem to be just laser mice from what I can find, so I'll probably give them a pass. if you're talking about those Microsoft mice with blue sensors I'm 99% sure they're Phillips optical sensors.
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So, my G602 died for the first time a few days ago. A little over two and a half months of battery life. I pretty much kept it on performance mode the entire time. Definitely satisfied with my purchase.
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The Lord Bude posted:if you're talking about those Microsoft mice with blue sensors I'm 99% sure they're Phillips optical sensors.
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:What the deal on those BlueTrack sensors on those? Never even heard of them before. I need something that handles hair and crap getting in there really well is the main thing.
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What's the best way to get an RMA with logitech? I had to RMA my G5 like 3 times before I gave up and went back to my old mouse. I think I did it through their website or email. Is phone better? I decided to give logitech another chance because my Mx510 from practically a decade ago still works perfectly and my mx518 is also holding strong. The g100s came out and it's exactly what I expected at a great price, $25. Except the left click stopped working properly after 3-4 months of use. The switch presses, but only half of the presses register. Also, is it possible to get them to send you one before you send yours in? Also, does opening the mouse void the warranty? The weight pretty much triggered my RSI so I had to remove it. Heavy mice suck anyway. It's the actual switch for left mouse that is faulty and there's no way to damage that while opening the mouse. It makes the loud clicking noise and actuates, but left click just doesn't happen 1/3 times. There's also a bunch of reviews starting to crop up from people who have owned it for 3-5 months with a similar problem. Khorne fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Dec 16, 2013 |
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It's not the kind of mouse for me but I noticed the Func was on sale on Massdrop so i thought I'd drop it here as I remember people liking it. Then again I've read the last 2 pages and it seems they may have all started dying :/ Either way here's the link for anyone considering it - https://www.massdrop.com/buy/func-ms-3c
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Khorne posted:What's the best way to get an RMA with logitech? I did phone several years ago for a keyboard/mouse combo, and it went smoothly. The last couple of times I've gone through the website (which shits itself in the presence of ad blockers), and that's turned into a prolonged e-mail exchange. In my experience, they won't ask for anything to be sent back-- though that's probably a matter of how much the devices are worth. I've just been sending M705's back and forth the last few years, and they've never asked for me to send one off.
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I emailed their tech support through their site form, got a reply, sent the information requested and had a new mouse shipped out the next day. It was incredibly easy.
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As far as wireless mice go, I really like my Logitech M310 but they do have that rubberized material on the sides, and they seem to be getting phased out in favor of newer stuff like the 525. Uses 1 AA, which you can sub a rechargable one for but it does seem to last quite awhile and quite honestly they're really snappy, functional and rather inexpensive mice. I had an issue with one of the company's cheapo k120 keyboards, I sent tech support an email after doing multiple tests and after snapping a photo of the keyboard serial and sending it off to them they responded by shipping an entirely new keyboard over to Hawaii, no cost nor need to send anything back. I guess the trouble and cost of having to have people take in, inspect, validate and repair hardware is not worth it when they can get a lot more customer appreciation and savings by just saying screw it, ship them a new part and hope it doesn't happen again. As far as the Bluetrack thing goes, I picked up a Microsoft Comfort Mouse 4500 at a discount store and the thing was terrible. Nothing was wrong with the tracking, it was pretty good really, but the scroll wheel was awful -- it was a loose rubber band around a stationary plastic wheel, no ratcheting at all, and middle click had a noticable lag between clicking and actually performing whatever action you wanted. It doesn't even freescroll, which would be the only reason I would give up the ratchet option for. Not to mention that despite being a Microsoft product, it completely screwed the driver install up after being plugged into my Win 7 machine, making USB inoperable and forcing me to restart and dig through the device manager to clear out the failed driver entries. At least it worked fine on the Vista (hah!).
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I just had the logitech M510 I use at work die on me and I'm looking for another wireless mouse that is similar but i was looking for something which is little bigger (the m510 was smaller than I was thinking it was going to be) and is a right handed mouse if possible. Any recommendations?
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Bugsy posted:I just had the logitech M510 I use at work die on me and I'm looking for another wireless mouse that is similar but i was looking for something which is little bigger (the m510 was smaller than I was thinking it was going to be) and is a right handed mouse if possible. Any recommendations? I picked up the M705 when it was on sale on Amazon for 30 bucks. I really like it a lot, very similar to my G500 in shape and feel. Only thing I don't use on it is the app switcher button.
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big mean giraffe posted:I emailed their tech support through their site form, got a reply, sent the information requested and had a new mouse shipped out the next day. It was incredibly easy. I wish I had your luck: it took over a week for me earlier this month, and the guy ended up giving me a hard time over what counted as proof of purchase. Mouse arrived via UPS late last week though, and they refreshed the warranty period, so in the end I guess I can't complain too much. 
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Astrobastard posted:It's not the kind of mouse for me but I noticed the Func was on sale on Massdrop so i thought I'd drop it here as I remember people liking it. Then again I've read the last 2 pages and it seems they may have all started dying :/ Either way here's the link for anyone considering it - Thanks for the site! I was actually looking for the Func MS-3 to try out. A few more buys and the mouse will be down to $29.99 
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So I haven't read through all 100 pages or whatever, but what do people think about mouse pads? My Belkin cloth mouse pad that I've had for eight years is getting worn away enough that it's sort of gripping my mouse more than I'd like. Should I buy a $10 SteelSeries mouse pad or is that for chumps or what? Do I want a massive hunk of stainless steel or a cloth "almost a napkin" pad or what? With the exception of very short stints on other peoples' computers I've used like four mouse pads my entire life so I don't really know what sort of things are out there that I might like. I play games and stuff, so precision and ease of movement would be nice. edit: just took a peek at this Team Liquid post linked elsewhere in the thread and it looks like that has good info so maybe this post was a waste! Sorry, thread denizens. editedit: turns out that thread has no specific recommendations, so, yeah, chime in with your mouse pad advice if you have any. TychoCelchuuu fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Dec 17, 2013 |
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I use a xtrac ripper xl cloth mouse pad and I love it. I also have some no name brand metal pad and I love that too. Downside to the cloth is it gets dirty quickly, the upside to that is you can wash it and make it brand new. Upside to the metal is it takes awhile to get dirty, downside is you can't really clean them. On my metal pad I wore away the finish on it where I rest my palm, and then it started to turn pink... From my dead skin cells or something. As far as tracking on the pads I don't really notice a difference. On the mouse front I ordered and used the logitech G602 and while the wireless was nice, I quickly encountered interference and "lag" problems. Best buy was and maybe still is having a 25% sale on logitech mice so I figured maybe I would pick up the G700s. When I got to best buy I was actually able to hold the 700s and it felt terrible in my hand and the buttons felt cheap (although as a demo mouse maybe they had already given up the ghost). With that in mind and with my love for my old MX518 I figured I would just pick up the G400s as it is the new version. After a week of use I'm in love with it just as much as I was with the 518. It feels great in my hand, and while the side buttons and the scroll wheel feel the tiniest bit cheaper, it is still a wonderful experience. All that being said it does seem like the 400s has the same problem that my 518 has. I only really experience it playing WoW. I'll be holding down the right button and moving my screen around when it suddenly snaps to a different view without me moving it there. So say I was looking straight ahead and then bam I'm staring up at the sky, or in the opposite direction.
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I bought a func1030 hard mousepad a long, long time ago, and consider it a waste of money. It was hard to keep clean and rather small. I now have an enormous steelseries mousepad and it has enough room for my mouse and my cat. I think the cat appreciates it more than I do. I now prefer cloth pads for the times my wrist is resting on the desk and I still use the giant pad because I don't see any reason to replace it. I would not pay extra for this much room if I needed a new mousepad in the future. At the time I was trying to play Quake Live with a sensitivity less than 1 and it seemed like a good idea. I actually used a bigger mousepad for about 3 years in between. It tracks fine with a laser mouse, but it's not perfectly flat and the surface seemed to punish the old tiny skates mice used to have. Easy to clean though! And space for all manner of housepet, I reckon. My recommendation is to buy a black cloth mousepad that's big enough for whatever you want it for. edit: actually, unless you don't like something about what you're used to, buy whatever you're used to. It's entirely up to your comfort and preference. kaschei fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Dec 17, 2013 |
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I used to use some super old, falling apart, dirty grimy cloth pad with a silicone wrist rest. Eventually though I got used to just using my drawing tablet as a mousepad, which works fine with my logitech G1 and M310 but has occassional issues with some other mice. It works well for me, since if I feel like just sketching something out, I can shove the mouse off the thing and start. If it wasn't for the tablet being very mousepad like (it is similar to a Vistablet PenPad) I probably would just use that cheap standard sized Mario Party mousepad I got awhile ago. I'd probably only upgrade to one of those fancy pads if cloth pads become unable to hold up well or track accurately, which I haven't seen happen too often personally.
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I like the razer goliathus speed pads. They're large and smooth and I use very low mouse sensitivity. Got a large at work and an X-large at home. The x-large can hold an angled keyboard, a medium wacom, and still have plenty of space for the mouse. Also they are laundry washer safe, i clean it every month or so.
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calandryll posted:I picked up the M705 when it was on sale on Amazon for 30 bucks. I really like it a lot, very similar to my G500 in shape and feel. Only thing I don't use on it is the app switcher button. That's the other one I was looking at, and I'm going to give it a shot. Thanks!
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Logitech RMA process went really smooth. That was way easier than I remembered it being. They accepted a screen capture of my amazon purchase history as a receipt with no questions asked.TychoCelchuuu posted:So I haven't read through all 100 pages or whatever, but what do people think about mouse pads? My Belkin cloth mouse pad that I've had for eight years is getting worn away enough that it's sort of gripping my mouse more than I'd like. Should I buy a $10 SteelSeries mouse pad or is that for chumps or what? Do I want a massive hunk of stainless steel or a cloth "almost a napkin" pad or what? With the exception of very short stints on other peoples' computers I've used like four mouse pads my entire life so I don't really know what sort of things are out there that I might like. I play games and stuff, so precision and ease of movement would be nice. SteelSerie's cloth pads, qck and its variants, are pretty solid and cheap. QCK mass or any of the thicker ones will wear out a bit faster due to flayed edges than the super flat ones, but they are cushioned so they are more comfortable when you aren't playing intense games. If you don't care how it looks then it will probably last for 3-4 years. Considering they're around ten dollars, who cares. Some nice benefits are they're easy to clean, just toss them in the dishwasher or wash them in the sink. They don't wear out the feet of your mouse either, so mouse skates might as well not exist. There's probably better or equivalent cloth pads from competitors around now, too. I just haven't bothered looking into them because I still have around 8 packaged qcks of various kinds sitting around that I got for free. Then there's hard pads of various types, rough pads, and a bunch of other stuff. I'd say skip the hassle unless you really, really like to use your mouse on a very smooth or rough surface. Then have fun with the maintenance, picking the right pad, how loud some of there are, mouse skates wearing out, and all that junk. Khorne fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Dec 18, 2013 |
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