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ThirdPartyView posted:Never dealt with sovereign citizens, eh? Nope. My experience with pro se litigants is limited to desperate foreclosure removals and habeas petitions. I haven't had one yet, although another judge had a sovereign citizen go to trial on burglary trials. The judge ended up trying him in absentia since he kept standing up in court and saying that he didn't consent to this court's improper joinder and all kinds of other nonsense. I still maintain the next megathread should be titled "Lawyer & Law School Megathread #13: Don't joinder me bro" mikeraskol posted:I never hear malpractice. Instead I live in mortal fear of clients, you can't leave out an affirmative defense because later if another joint defendant has it, the client starts asking why, goes to the most senior partner whose case it is, he goes to the actual partner dealing with the issue asking why he is getting poo poo from the client and what are you doing to my case, and then that partner goes to you and says why are you loving up and then I don't sleep at night as I dream of living in a cardboard box in Central Park. The constant nagging feeling that you majorly hosed up is the best part about practicing law.
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Omerta posted:The constant nagging feeling that you majorly hosed up is the best part about practicing law. And given the number of partners I work with who start to get paranoid that they missed something when a case is going well (and therefore ask me to go back and take another look at everything), that nagging feeling never goes away.
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Kalman posted:And given the number of partners I work with who start to get paranoid that they missed something when a case is going well (and therefore ask me to go back and take another look at everything), that nagging feeling never goes away. In my case, in genuinely has not. My work life pretty honestly consists of a 50/50 blend of absolutely hating what I do and not really giving a poo poo about it, but then forcing myself to try to do it anyway because I'm terrified I'll gently caress something up that will come back to haunt me.
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mikeraskol posted:I never hear malpractice. Instead I live in mortal fear of clients, you can't leave out an affirmative defense because later if another joint defendant has it, the client starts asking why, goes to the most senior partner whose case it is, he goes to the actual partner dealing with the issue asking why he is getting poo poo from the client and what are you doing to my case, and then that partner goes to you and says why are you loving up and then I don't sleep at night as I dream of living in a cardboard box in Central Park. Take heart! Soon, you'll actually be allowed to live in a cardboard box in Central Park without getting used for target practice by the NYPD (just kidding De Blasio won't change poo poo in that regard).
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Welp, I finally read the Sovereign Citizens movement Wikipedia entry and learned about the so-called missing 13th Amendment and the whole thing on why they don't recognize attorneys/the court. The only remaining question I have left is: what the hell is the whole fringe on flag thing?
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ThirdPartyView posted:Welp, I finally read the Sovereign Citizens movement Wikipedia entry and learned about the so-called missing 13th Amendment and the whole thing on why they don't recognize attorneys/the court. The only remaining question I have left is: what the hell is the whole fringe on flag thing? It's dumb and has something to do with how the law defining the official U.S. flag doesn't provide for gold fringe and therefore if you're in a courtroom and there's gold fringe on the flag you're really in some sort of foreign enclave/admiralty court/under martial law.
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I read this, thread, and thought of youquote:So you don’t want to pay your council rates, or your parking fines? If you live in Victoria, a bit of searching on the internet will provide you with what looks like a great solution: you don’t need to pay, because the Victorian Constitution is invalid. Anything that local councils do under its authority is invalid too. These arguments recently came before the High Court, not for the first time, in Rutledge v Victoria [2013] HCATrans 294 (Hayne J). http://blogs.unimelb.edu.au/opinionsonhigh/2013/12/16/waugh-rutledge/#more-3253
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Dec 16, 2013 04:45
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I have my character and fitness interview for the 4th Dept. in NY on Wednesday. I guess they're just hoarding us all in one place at 9:30. Should I expect to be waiting around all day or are these usually quick? I honestly know nothing about them because all I care about is burning another $375.
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Solid Lizzie posted:I have my character and fitness interview for the 4th Dept. in NY on Wednesday. I guess they're just hoarding us all in one place at 9:30. Should I expect to be waiting around all day or are these usually quick? I honestly know nothing about them because all I care about is burning another $375. At least for Albany, they took people in order of arrival. The interviews only take ten minutes or so, so I would recommend getting there a little bit early so you're at the front of the line for interviews and get out that much sooner.
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*2 Driftwood Crips 10-5-0 1580.48 *3 Southern Ivy 10-5-0 1579.90  Dreading any stat adjustments.
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Had our annual performance reviews yesterday... Still not fired! Woo! (Though apparently I can only communicate in writing, not orally)
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CmdrSmirnoff posted:*2 Driftwood Crips 10-5-0 1580.48 It would really hurt your chances if you dropped to the third seed, you'd lose the home-field advantage.
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Four Finger Wu posted:It depends if he wants to make a gift to his business partner at death or just give the partner the right to acquire the shares on exchange for paying something to his estate.
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Arcturas posted:Had our annual performance reviews yesterday... Surprise, you're a goon.
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So I have an interview tomorrow for a great position! Only problem is that it's unpaid. But here's the thing - my school has a "transition to practice" program where they'll pay you, $10 an hour, 25 hours a week, to work somewhere as long as you're looking for permanent work! So if I get this job, not only do I get a sweet $1,000 a month salary, I'm pretty sure I'm eligible for food stamps. Free food? Heck yes!
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Direwolf posted:So I have an interview tomorrow for a great position! Only problem is that it's unpaid. Let me guess it lasts for nine months and one day.
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evilweasel posted:Let me guess it lasts for nine months and one day. It actually lasts for only 3 barring "special circumstances". I have other PI friends who've used it to survive into real employment so it's a decent program. Also just found out that if you have any savings at all you can't get food stamps. So I can't get free food, oh well!
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Lawyer & Law School Megathread #13: Literally Discussing Food Stamps ITT
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I interview with district court tomorrow. Wish me luck in my escape from claimant's work/litigation sweatshop. PS, if I get the job a new position will open up in a litigation sweatshop that pays substantially more than $10 per hour. But you don't get to be an attorney.
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My litigation sweatshop just announced 401k matches and any merit raises will not happen all of 2014. At least I get health insurance and pto unlike some rival firms I guess...
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I'd prefer 40k matches...
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I lurk this thread because I was on the "Well I like writing and I like arguing so I may as well go to law school  " track many moons ago so it's like seeing what might have been. However, a friend of mine told me he was going to law school and I tried to share your wisdom but he insisted he was going to work in the exciting and rapidly growing field of video game/internet law after he graduated from his law school ranked in the 100s.Started off barrister, ended up Best Buy Sales Consultant.
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Direwolf posted:So I have an interview tomorrow for a great position! Only problem is that it's unpaid. Aug '10: Direwolf posted:So, second day of orientation and I believe I've been told about 10 times in each activity that I will be learning to Think Like A Lawyer! I must admit, I'm a little bit nervous about the complete paradigm shift that's about to occur, but at least I know my $200,000 isn't going down the drain! Has your perspective changed somewhat after these three years? Do you think like a lawyer now?
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zzyzx posted:*shrug* I'm having fun. It's like junior high on steroids, really. I want to talk to him. I want to try to talk some sense to him, tell him the way things are. But I can't.
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Zo posted:Aug '10: Posts like these are top posts. I love them.
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Zo posted:Aug '10: I'd be lying if I said I didn't have certain perspective shifts, but they mostly come from my mediation course and working as a mediator. I don't regret my decision to go to law school, though. I've been able to do some fantastic things in the work that I've done so far, and everything that's gone wrong has gone wrong because I don't speak Spanish, not because my degree hasn't been worth it. Sorry law thread, still not a cynic.
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Burn the witch, burn the witch. Gearing up for another stab at the Louisiana bar exam, gently caress everything.
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Direwolf posted:I'd be lying if I said I didn't have certain perspective shifts, but they mostly come from my mediation course and working as a mediator. Don't regret going to law school, not a cynic, going on food stamps. Just making sure I understand your position.
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Walamor posted:Don't regret going to law school, not a cynic, going on food stamps. Denied for food stamps. This thread owns.
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I'm an attorney by day, running my own law firm. But by night I deliver pizzas for Pizza Hut. I'm like some sort of reverse Batman. Oh yes, this mortgage in student loans was definitely worth it. PS I can't wait for the day when I end up delivering a pizza to one of my clients. Nitrousoxide fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Dec 18, 2013 |
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Direwolf posted:I'd be lying if I said I didn't have certain perspective shifts, but they mostly come from my mediation course and working as a mediator. Are you still in Chicago or did you move to wherever the hell it was you were planning on going after law school?
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Direwolf posted:I'd be lying if I said I didn't have certain perspective shifts, but they mostly come from my mediation course and working as a mediator. Good god, you're the loving Squeaky Fromme of law students.
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Got recommended to take the oath in January. Hoooraaaay ... pooooooor....quote:exciting and rapidly growing field of video game/internet law after he graduated from his law school ranked in the 100s. Solid Lizzie fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Dec 18, 2013 |
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Eldar law?
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Tzeentch would be the best attorney. Fiddles with agreements constantly, doesn't mind a good scrap, and even when he screws up it just makes more business for him in the future.
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HiddenReplaced posted:Are you still in Chicago or did you move to wherever the hell it was you were planning on going after law school? Moved. Moving again soon, temporarily and then either to Guam or NYC/DC depending. Chicago's ok but not my scene.
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Solid Lizzie posted:Ha! Ha. I wish 'video game law' was a thing. I took Elder Law this one time - totally about Skyrim. My University offers Secession Law, do you think that's like Crusader Kings?
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You can probably get a good practice going suing people in real court that cheated people out of gold or promises of virtual marriage in Wow and or Eve and or whatever video game people waste time and money on. The next level of realism, adjudication!
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Elephanthead posted:You can probably get a good practice going suing people in real court that cheated people out of gold or promises of virtual marriage in Wow and or Eve and or whatever video game people waste time and money on. The next level of realism, adjudication! Also, Leonard J. Crabs is bound to retire at some point.
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Wrote my last law exam ever today  Now just a 1 semester practicum and then articling and then woo i'll be a lawyer
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