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Roundboy posted:report on that new Tylt charger is a very sensitive snowflake. Both the G2 and the Maxx need to be EXACTLY centered. Even with it positioned and charging for a few min, it just looses connection occasionally.
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Roundboy posted:report on that new Tylt charger is a very sensitive snowflake. Both the G2 and the Maxx need to be EXACTLY centered. Even with it positioned and charging for a few min, it just looses connection occasionally. I seem to have had no trouble with my Maxx, I can just plop it on there willy nilly and it works. It worked well enough for me that I bought a second one for the office when they were running that $35 deal.
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Yeah, I've never really had much of an issue with my MAXX and the Tylt. Every once and awhile it will freak out at me and charge/drop/charge/drop over and over, but picking it up again and putting it back down fixes it.
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Day one it was fine, this was something that i just noticed today. I'll let it shake out and see whats up.
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:Looks like there were 3 posts about the G2 so I'm bound to this thread until I make this post. Is the font broken on the non-Verizon version? I thought it was only the VZ. Look, I don't want to defend the stupid software stuff, because those things matter, and they really aren't good. The only reason I'm posting is that you list several reasons to get a G2, then immediately say "there's no compelling reason" to get one. I.e.: The G2 has a bigger, frequently better reviewed screen (unwieldy is subjective), a better camera (find me a review that doesn't say that), and 20% better battery life. I consider all of those to be compelling reasons. The buttons on the back are really not annoying, and allow the bezels to be extremely thin. I don't want to bash the N5, because I almost got one, and I'm sure I'd love it if I had one (and if it had a bigger battery, there's no question it's what I would have gotten), but saying that it's unequivocally better in every way just isn't factual. Saying the software is so bad that it negates the real advantages the G2 has is a fine thing to say, but it is subjective. Note that if someone asked me what I thought about the Moto X, I'd tell them it's an excellent phone and they should get it. If they asked me what's a phone with a great battery/camera not on Verizon, and I knew they didn't mind fiddling with the phone for 30 minutes once when they got it (I totally agree it's stupid that you have to, but really, we're not talking about a huge time commitment here), I'd suggest the G2. I know people like that exist, because I am one. I also know the majority of people aren't that way, so I wouldn't recommend it to them. I think every time someone has came in this thread asking about the G2, even the G2 owners warn people about the downsides. I used a N5 and, to me, the battery was unacceptable. The G2's software was unacceptable for you. Can't we just leave it at that? Grumpwagon fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Dec 16, 2013 |
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Dec 16, 2013 04:52
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Grumpwagon posted:Can't we just leave it at that? Apparently not.
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So, Galaxy Note 3 chat. Never really used one of these big screen phones, but I have one being sent to me. Planning to take some time with it as my main phone (currently use a Nexus 5). But I have a couple of questions: 1) If I were to use a screen protector, would the pen be as effective? I'd guess not, but was curious. If so, which brand(s) work best? Or do people use theirs naked and have no issue screen wise? I figure that this, more than most phones, needs a protected screen. 2) What kind of case do you recommend? I don't want something OtterBox sized, so I'm looking for smaller than that. A kickstand or other way to set it up in landscape hands free would be nice. 3) Anything else I should know or make sure to do early? Any apps that are especially nice to have on the Note 3? Really looking forward to the handwriting stuff and the multi window support!
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I've been using my Note 3 without a case or screen protector for a couple of weeks now without issue. I just really don't like either. I'll grab a diztronic case for cheap, just to have around, but I doubt I'll use it much. The battery life is great (I'm currently at over 16hrs of up time, with just over 5hrs of screen time, and still have 48% battery left). Yes, it can be a bit unwieldy at times, but it's mostly when I'm out and about and only have one free hand. The vast majority of the time, I love the screen size. The best thing about it is the ridiculous about of RAM. I have multiple things that run in the background (SwipePad, Lux, etc) and have never seen my home screen redraw. I think you'll like it.
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:Looks like there were 3 posts about the G2 so I'm bound to this thread until I make this post. As far as "size", do you find the s4 too big as well? Its the same size. I don't find myself having a hard time carrying it. In fact its not much different than my s3 was. Little heavier. No biggy. Rear buttons? Uh they rock. Even the smaller ones on the Verizon model are far better than side buttons to me. They get hit less frequently than side buttons did in my pocket. Knock on works fine. Its sensitive and there's a specific tap range but it does work just fine once you use it for a few weeks and get used to how it likes being tapped. I noticed a lot of reviewers sperg about how it Dont work right. Unless I got a magic unit it works fine. Yes once in a while I have to tap it a second time but really it works. Plus how do you turn the screen on without it with the buttons on the rear? Good solution I say. All in all its like you read hyperbole reviews that didn't like it and blindly ignored the reviews of reviewers who like the device. There's plenty out there. In fact its pretty well liked all around minus some folks here. And the camera. Yup that's great too. People who sperg about touchwiz will hate the g2. Normal end users I really think will enjoy it. Hell my roommate has one. She loves it. Its fast, the battery is great, and she gets to use a fancy wireless charger. Screens big enough and she likes the camera. This is coming from someone who "upgraded" from an HTC One. Hate to hate. But its a rock solid device.
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Edit: Posted way too soon. What's the best slim case for the moto x?
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Noxious posted:Edit: Posted way too soon. What's the best slim case for the moto x? Diztronic -sent via auto hotword goon detection script for best slim case
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hotsauce posted:Diztronic Diztronic really is the best case for every phone I've owned.
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"d[-.- posted:b" post="423237329"] Is this what you got?
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Lblitzer posted:It's just missing a recent app button which, with a device this powerful and probably not a big concern to most people, won't need to be meticulously watched to make sure you run out of rams. The Gingerbread era phones also have 4 buttons in various orders, including a search button. There is no correct layout. aaaaaaAAAAAAAHHHHH why on earth would you assume the best use for an app switcher button is killing apps to save RAM? Also, there *IS* a correct button layout; it's not the Gingerbread era anymore. Since 4.x, the standard (ie. Google-defined, stock) layout is back/home/switcher. Google did that to specifically get rid of the menu button which was causing confusion, because it's totally not obvious which screens do or do not have context-specific menus that hide options from view (and christ, different manufacturers were/are using different menu button icons). Hell, someone on these forums mentioned that Google has now coded Android to include the 3-dot overflow menu button to show in apps, regardless of the presence of an actual menu button because the menu button totally sucks.
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sleepwalkers posted:aaaaaaAAAAAAAHHHHH why on earth would you assume the best use for an app switcher button is killing apps to save RAM? I posted quickly and in a heat of rage, completely forgot it's more used as a switcher. Hell, I use it all the time but the way I see some people looking at that you'd think they should just get Advanced Task Killer and call it a day. Regardless, you can quickly (and I mean within a day or two) get used to the layout of the buttons, whether physical or capacitive. Sure, there are right and wrong layouts (much to my surprise honestly), but it doesn't break the usability of the phone.
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XIII posted:I've been using my Note 3 without a case or screen protector for a couple of weeks now without issue. I just really don't like either. I'll grab a diztronic case for cheap, just to have around, but I doubt I'll use it much. The battery life is great (I'm currently at over 16hrs of up time, with just over 5hrs of screen time, and still have 48% battery left). Yes, it can be a bit unwieldy at times, but it's mostly when I'm out and about and only have one free hand. The vast majority of the time, I love the screen size. The best thing about it is the ridiculous about of RAM. I have multiple things that run in the background (SwipePad, Lux, etc) and have never seen my home screen redraw. I think you'll like it. This has been my experience with the device also. I get worse battery life, but that's mostly due to having Skype running almost constantly. I've managed to get around 19 or so hours on a single charge, and then make it go almost another 24 hours off 4 hours total additional charging time spaced out throughout the day.
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Lblitzer posted:Sure, there are right and wrong layouts (much to my surprise honestly), but it doesn't break the usability of the phone. The whole point of making changes to the stock OS should be to improve the user's experience and yet every G2 defender immediately leads with "you can turn off most of their stuff". If the process for their "improvements" leads to them implementing changes that people want to disable or don't work reliably, do you really trust them to have done all the internal stuff correctly?
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LastInLine posted:I'm pretty sure that's exactly the point of what we're saying. There are right and wrong ways to do most things and doing it wrong doesn't always completely break the entire device but what it does do is reduce usability, break compatibility, hamper user experience, look aesthetically displeasing, cause unexpected problems, and so on and so forth. Some people are fine with this but it doesn't change the fact that if you're the kind of company that's cutting these obvious corners that do nothing to help and actively harm the user experience, what kinds of corners are being cut in the bits of the software a user doesn't see? Let me rephrase my stance then. The G2 would be an even better device running stock Android. A Google Play Edition would be awesome. I definitely do not prefer their UI over stock, but it's not unusable or difficult to use by any stretch and I would happily recommend it to anyone looking for a larger sized phone.
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Lblitzer posted:Let me rephrase my stance then. The G2 would be an even better device running stock Android. A Google Play Edition would be awesome. I definitely do not prefer their UI over stock, but it's not unusable or difficult to use by any stretch and I would happily recommend it to anyone looking for a larger sized phone. So when you're looking at the four major OEMs it's only LG who is changing things simply to be doing so without first considering whether or not the change is worthwhile or wanted. Once you add in things like LG's track record with updates and how much they break things compared to how much they fix I find it difficult to see how there's any benefit at all in buying a G2 when there will always be a better and better supported device sitting right next to it in the showroom.
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XenoMac posted:This has been my experience with the device also. I get worse battery life, but that's mostly due to having Skype running almost constantly. I've managed to get around 19 or so hours on a single charge, and then make it go almost another 24 hours off 4 hours total additional charging time spaced out throughout the day. XIII posted:I've been using my Note 3 without a case or screen protector for a couple of weeks now without issue. I just really don't like either. I'll grab a diztronic case for cheap, just to have around, but I doubt I'll use it much. The battery life is great (I'm currently at over 16hrs of up time, with just over 5hrs of screen time, and still have 48% battery left). Yes, it can be a bit unwieldy at times, but it's mostly when I'm out and about and only have one free hand. The vast majority of the time, I love the screen size. The best thing about it is the ridiculous about of RAM. I have multiple things that run in the background (SwipePad, Lux, etc) and have never seen my home screen redraw. I think you'll like it. Thanks guys. I'm really looking forward to the huge battery and basically giving zero fucks about battery life. Also glad to hear that it does just fine without a case. I'm always concerned about it, though much less so with Android phones (more when I had an iPhone 5). Nexus 4 was an exception due to how slick the back was, and even then, I got tired of a glass protector on the back when it started to peel off.
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Wheany posted:The back button still behaves more like Shuffle. While it's a confusing part of Android behavior, I have come to understand what the Back button tries to accomplish. Lets say you're at your Home Screen, then you crack open the Gallery, then share a photo to Facebook using the Gallery share function. Then after the photo posts you click on a link that opens a page in Chrome. The way Android sees it, your usage of FB is a subprocess of Gallery, and Chrome is a subprocess of FB. The back button will follow this hierarchy back all the way to the home screen. You can see some of this subprocess behavior in action if you stop midway through a process and switch to a different app. Start with Gallery, and start the share process to Facebook. While that Facebook post is sitting there waiting to be posted, hit the home button. Then go open up something like Messaging. Then hit Home again. Pull up the Recent Apps. The thumbnail for Gallery will be of Facebook. The back button definitely follows logic. It's just not logic that's intuitive or apparent.
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I've never once been confused by Back button behavior although I can see where the thumbnail mismatch in the app switcher could be. Half the reason it doesn't bother me is probably from all that Froyo-era training to always Back out of an app instead of Home-ing out. I imagine iOS users are trained to do the opposite.
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Is the reason that the official Nexus wireless charger is not available outside the US (it seems), because it's so popular or because it's not popular enough?
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Wheany posted:Is the reason that the official Nexus wireless charger is not available outside the US (it seems), because it's so popular or because it's not popular enough? Oh wait, here it is: Google doesn't give a gently caress about places other than the US.
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LastInLine posted:But therein lies the rub, why would you recommend it over other phones without those UI drawbacks? Better battery life (assuming Verizon isn't an option), better screen and better camera? It's a trade off, just like everything. You trade some battery life for not having to deal with stupid software choices, and that's a valid choice, but it's not absurd to trade the other way.
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Noxious posted:Edit: Posted way too soon. What's the best slim case for the moto x? I have a bumper case from eBay. It was $6 or $7 shipped from the US, but can be had for cheaper if you get one from China and wait 4 weeks. It works well, the cutouts are good, and the buttons work great. It's TPU inner with a hard plastic shell. It doesn't add extra bulk by covering the back of the phone, and the whole point of your fancy custom Moto X is to show that off. http://m.ebay.com/itm/Hybrid-Bumper-Case-for-Motorola-Moto-X-/321210556637
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EbolaIvory posted:Plus how do you turn the screen on without it with the buttons on the rear? Definitely not Active Display 
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How are most people finding the Nexus 5? I use an iPhone 5 as it is and am looking to pick up an Android phone. My carrier is offering me the N5 on a two year contract for $0 and I'm tempted to bite. Tried it out and it feels like a great phone, but I have some concerns about longevity as well. Is the N5 likely to be receiving updates and not turn into a slow buggy mess 2 years down the road?
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jot posted:How are most people finding the Nexus 5? I use an iPhone 5 as it is and am looking to pick up an Android phone. My carrier is offering me the N5 on a two year contract for $0 and I'm tempted to bite.
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Grumpwagon posted:Better battery life (assuming Verizon isn't an option), better screen and better camera? It's a trade off, just like everything. You trade some battery life for not having to deal with stupid software choices, and that's a valid choice, but it's not absurd to trade the other way. The Note 3 has great battery life, a great screen, and a pretty great camera though without being quite as offensively bad.
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Mu Zeta posted:No. I can see different LTE signal strengths on the iPhone 5, Nexus 5, and Moto X. Here's some screenshots of a few places from yesterday/today: Near home:  The "downtown" area about a mile from my house:  Work, which is about 3 miles in the other direction as downtown from my house:  Here's a rough map of where the screenshots were taken:  I'll also probably be able to get a screenshot from another area today at lunch.
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MrMoose posted:So, Galaxy Note 3 chat. Never really used one of these big screen phones, but I have one being sent to me. Planning to take some time with it as my main phone (currently use a Nexus 5). But I have a couple of questions: The pen should be completely unaffected by the screen protector unless it's unusually thick.
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DrBouvenstein posted:Here's a rough map of where the screenshots were taken: Great job posting an exact map of your whereabouts! Goons are gonna take pictures of your house and place of employment now.
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DrBouvenstein posted:Here's some screenshots of a few places from yesterday/today: -77 is good, -112 isn't so good. 1 bar for -112 kind of jives, but seems off for -77. Of course, it also depends on what HTC does with their bar assignments. I can tell you that back with the Incredible 2 there was a issue where the bars would rarely give you a true indication of signal strength. Similar to what you've got there, 1 bar out of 4 could be anything from "good" to "abysmal". They "fixed" it by adding a 5th bar.
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