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When I met the guys I'm working with this week I mentioned that it snowed in Egypt for the first time in like 112 years as sort of an ice breaker. It was just something I heard on the radio on my way to work. One of them said something dumb about global warming and the other said something dumb/racist about Egyptians. looks like I can't talk about anything this trip. No topic is safe!
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Timett posted:When I met the guys I'm working with this week I mentioned that it snowed in Egypt for the first time in like 112 years as sort of an ice breaker. It was just something I heard on the radio on my way to work. One of them said something dumb about global warming and the other said something dumb/racist about Egyptians. Sounds like you hit the jackpot
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 15:37 |
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Gygaxian posted:Question; is there any truth to the claim that NYC mayor-elect Bill de Blasio is creating a gun registry? My right-wing neighbors are claiming that he is, and they're claiming that he's doing it as a prelude to GUN CONFISCATION!!!1! de Blasio has been quoted as saying Bloomberg didn't go far enough with his anti-gun agenda, so take from that what you will.
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 16:30 |
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Timett posted:When I met the guys I'm working with this week I mentioned that it snowed in Egypt for the first time in like 112 years as sort of an ice breaker. It was just something I heard on the radio on my way to work. One of them said something dumb about global warming and the other said something dumb/racist about Egyptians. Apart from the dumb need to bring politics into everything, I love the idea of thinking that a weather event unseen for 112 years is evidence of climate change not occurring.
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 17:32 |
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Timett posted:When I met the guys I'm working with this week I mentioned that it snowed in Egypt for the first time in like 112 years as sort of an ice breaker. It was just something I heard on the radio on my way to work. One of them said something dumb about global warming and the other said something dumb/racist about Egyptians. Was the dumb/racist thing about Egyptians related to the fact that it snowed? C'mon now, did the guy somehow blame Egyptians for the weather in Egypt
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 18:11 |
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It's God's revenge on behalf of the Israelites.
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 18:14 |
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Taaaaaaarb! posted:Was the dumb/racist thing about Egyptians related to the fact that it snowed? C'mon now, did the guy somehow blame Egyptians for the weather in Egypt
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Guavanaut posted:Putting my bet on some variant of "they were all confused because they'd never seen it before and are too ignorant to know of anything outside their borders ". That's not particularly racist- I make that joke toward relatives living in SC.
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 18:40 |
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Actually had this pop up on my twitter feed.
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 19:03 |
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Call Me Charlie posted:Actually had this pop up on my twitter feed. All of the numbers other than corporate subsidies are overly exact. Maybe it's an edit of an earlier chart?
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 19:20 |
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so, um, there's been this twitter trend that's popped up on my feed called: #NotYourAsianSidekick Which I found out was started by some Asian Feminist blogger to discuss Asian Feminism over twitter. I did orignally track it down and found this as one of her tweets: http://www.buzzfeed.com/tanyachen/notyourasiansidekick-unites-thousands-to-discuss-asian-ameri Suey Park @suey_park 15h So many of my queer white friends ASSUME they get my struggle because *intersectionality*. No. You're still white. #NotYourAsianSidekick I don't know..I don't really appreciate that kind of notion/attitude. I have gay friends (my brother is actually an ally in a LGBTS club, which has made me rather proud ), and I don't like to have it be the "Olympics of suffering" between two groups of people. I agree with feminism (I'm pro-choice, feel that women should definitely receive equal pay, and should have an equal voice in our society, work place, etc), just...something about that tweet and the general attitude I've found from that women kind of bugged me.
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 19:43 |
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I think she's more venting that a lot of people take 'interectionality' as a broad concept and try to use it as an excuse to go 'yea you have to deal with legit gross rear end poo poo coming at you in dating sites because your race has been fetishized as some kinda legal sex slave domestic goddess? Yea man I get that, there's dating problems in gay communities too so, ya know, we share the struggle' and kinda downplay her issues in an attempt to say they also have problems.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I think she's more venting that a lot of people take 'internationalist' as a broad concept and try to use it as an excuse to go 'yea you have to deal with legit gross rear end poo poo coming at you in dating sites because your race has been fetishized as some kinda legal sex slave domestic goddess? Yea man I get that, there's dating problems in gay communities too so, ya know, we share the struggle' and kinda downplay her issues in an attempt to say they also have problems. I could understand that more so, and that would be terrible to go through. (I mean I don't "understand" what she's going through, but I do understand more so what she was talking about). I appreciate your post by the way, as it gave me much more of a perspective and context on the issue rather than attempting to read her tweets.
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I have no idea why I wrote internationalist and not intersectionality though
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 19:55 |
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I think it's an off shoot of #solidarityisforwhitewomen, which was started this summer by Mikki Kendal (an African American woman) and raised a lot of the ways in which feminism mainly dealt with the equality issues facing upper middle-class white women, expose the tendency of feminism to exclude the experiences and narratives of women of color.
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 20:16 |
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Call Me Charlie posted:Actually had this pop up on my twitter feed. I've seen a version of that poster with some sources cited, same numbers. Let me see if I can find it.
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 21:34 |
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Graaaaarg all my hyper elite students think the poors are demanding a $15.00 minimum wage and it will ruin the economy because the vast majority of them are deluded little neoliberals and libertarians. I can't post actual text because ethics but I have had several people propose the dismantling of public schools because private enterprise would do it better and at least two suggest to me that we should limit the power of the 14th amendment and give states the power to secede and/or nullify laws to roll back the stifling power of the federal government. Ugh. I have to be neutral as a teacher and I am but man, does it make my eyeballs itch once every few weeks.
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 23:37 |
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When I think back to my first year of college in 2005 I think of what a shithead internet libertarian I was. I've thought more than once about writing apologies to my history and English teachers for the dumb poo poo I wrote but I'm sure they've forgotten about it in the wave of filth they must get turned in to them year after year.
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 23:49 |
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It's neutral to challenge the ideas students present by encouraging critical thinking, right? Obviously if these are term papers or something there's not a great way to do that, but if they are voicing that aloud in discussions it would seem a good time to take 5 minutes with the class and walk through conclusions piece by piece maybe?
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BrotherAdso posted:Graaaaarg all my hyper elite students think the poors are demanding a $15.00 minimum wage and it will ruin the economy because the vast majority of them are deluded little neoliberals and libertarians. I can't post actual text because ethics but I have had several people propose the dismantling of public schools because private enterprise would do it better and at least two suggest to me that we should limit the power of the 14th amendment and give states the power to secede and/or nullify laws to roll back the stifling power of the federal government. Ugh. I have to be neutral as a teacher and I am but man, does it make my eyeballs itch once every few weeks. Ask them what evidence leads to their conclusion. I'm sure that will be good for a lark Soviet Commubot posted:When I think back to my first year of college in 2005 I think of what a shithead internet libertarian I was. I've thought more than once about writing apologies to my history and English teachers for the dumb poo poo I wrote but I'm sure they've forgotten about it in the wave of filth they must get turned in to them year after year. gently caress I was too. Must be a rite of passage or something, discarding childish things when transitioning into adulthood.
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Taaaaaaarb! posted:gently caress I was too. Must be a rite of passage or something, discarding childish things when transitioning into adulthood. I was 23 and poor as hell, I should have known better
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Call Me Charlie posted:Actually had this pop up on my twitter feed. I love the implication - actually, not so much implied as stated - that the Medicare tax is actually being paid into a personal fund. So it's okay to take Medicare, because you paid into it. "See, this government healthcare is okay because I paid for it!" Walter fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Dec 17, 2013 |
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Davethulhu posted:All of the numbers other than corporate subsidies are overly exact. Maybe it's an edit of an earlier chart? I could believe the last one. Corporate subsidies have no real world reason for existing, so therefore the numbers are pulled out at complete and total random. So they default to a round number. .8% on 50,000.
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Walter posted:I love the implication - actually, not so much implied as stated - that the Medicare tax is actually being paid into a personal fund. So it's okay to take Medicare, because you paid into it. Uh, it's referring to the idea that the Tea Party thinks that Medicare is some program that just takes money from hard-working people to pay for mooching freeloader Welfare Queens with seventeen kids to go to the ER and not have to pay. Probably also that Tea Partiers have been using the phrase "Keep Government Out of My Medicare" (emphasis mine) on signs. Is everyone missing that this is an anti Tea Party image? The whole thing about Corporate Subsidies is playing on the fact that the Tea Party rails against any government program that actually gives money to people who need it, calling them "freeloaders", but completely ignore the fact that a disproportionate amount of tax revenue is being funneled into corporations who turn profits and still somehow get tax refunds.
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 01:07 |
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Soviet Commubot posted:I was 23 and poor as hell, I should have known better I was an Objectivist*. There is no greater shame *I stayed Libertarian even after I rejected Objectivism one I read Rand's anti-science views on evolution and modern physics. It took the recession to wake me up from that one.
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Soviet Commubot posted:I was 23 and poor as hell, I should have known better I was around that age too and in the same circumstances. VitalSigns posted:It took the recession to wake me up from that one. For me it was that plus completing my undergraduate in economics. It's a bit of trip in that discipline - in the first and second years they set you up with the theory and you're thinking "hell yeah rational decision making! We don't need no nanny state!" Then the last years show you why that type of thinking is wrong in great mathematical detail; almost nobody retains any libertarian leanings after that unless they are exceptionally dishonest. Taaaaaaarb! fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Dec 17, 2013 |
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Staryberry posted:I think it's an off shoot of #solidarityisforwhitewomen, which was started this summer by Mikki Kendal (an African American woman) and raised a lot of the ways in which feminism mainly dealt with the equality issues facing upper middle-class white women, expose the tendency of feminism to exclude the experiences and narratives of women of color. I'm more interested in reading the stories, and seeing the potential trials faced by those than say reading it on twitter/tumblr. I find I'll get a lot more via the context of a news article, lecture or a conversation than by someone simply posing with a cardboard sign or by someone posting a real bad meme. The message I feel doesn't seem like it makes as a significant impact on social media sometimes IMO.
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 02:06 |
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I concur. I'm not on twitter at all, so I didn't really hear about it until other blogs started responding to it. I don't think a catch phrase, on its own, causes much change in the world, but this one seemed to spark a useful conversation in some circles.
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VitalSigns posted:I was an Objectivist*. There is no greater shame For my 8th Grade Social Studies Thesis (if you could even call it that), I wrote an 8 page paper on why affirmative action was A Bad Thing; an idea which sprung to mind based on the idea that "I don't hate black people or discriminate against them, so why should they get preferential treatment?" and a story my dad always harped on where he claims to have been rejected for a job after being courted for an interview because the interviewer thought he was black based on his last name. (note: Our last name is Italian as gently caress, and could maybe be confused as Hispanic if you were just that much of an idiot.) Go go sheltered suburban upbringing!
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Kugyou no Tenshi posted:Is everyone missing that this is an anti Tea Party image? The whole thing about Corporate Subsidies is playing on the fact that the Tea Party rails against any government program that actually gives money to people who need it, calling them "freeloaders", but completely ignore the fact that a disproportionate amount of tax revenue is being funneled into corporations who turn profits and still somehow get tax refunds.
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Ravenfood posted:The font and coloring isn't doing it any favors. It looks like the ramblings of a crazy person aesthetically. But yeah, the actual numbers on there basically show that the vast majority of your taxes go towards corporate subsidies instead of a bunch of personally useful stuff. I like the idea, if not the execution.
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 15:05 |
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Huge resurgence of anti-vaccine idiots on my Facebook recently. Has anyone else been experiencing this?
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AlternateNu posted:For my 8th Grade Social Studies Thesis (if you could even call it that), I wrote an 8 page paper on why affirmative action was A Bad Thing; an idea which sprung to mind based on the idea that "I don't hate black people or discriminate against them, so why should they get preferential treatment?" and a story my dad always harped on where he claims to have been rejected for a job after being courted for an interview because the interviewer thought he was black based on his last name. (note: Our last name is Italian as gently caress, and could maybe be confused as Hispanic if you were just that much of an idiot.) I think almost every suburban white kid at one point thought "I'm not racist against black people, so why should I get punished by affirmative action?" since it's a logical question if you have no idea about systemic racism, white privilege, or any of those issues that typically are not taught at all. White middle and upper class kids are raised on the idea that racism is a bad thing from the past that congress bravely made illegal sometime in the 60s or 70s or something. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Dec 17, 2013 |
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EnsGDT posted:Huge resurgence of anti-vaccine idiots on my Facebook recently. Has anyone else been experiencing this? I've been seeing more pro vaccine/"what the gently caress is wrong with you anti vaccine people" posts on mine but I carefully curate my Facebook friends list down to people who I actually know and would want to hang out with so I'm not a good judge. Might be why I like this thread. Gives me a taste of the crazy without having to deal with it personally very often.
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 15:53 |
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Several prominent news hosts(the only one I can remember is Katie Couric) gave antivaxxers an uncritical hearing in the past few weeks. Jenny McCarthy was also hired as a host on The View.
Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Dec 17, 2013 |
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EnsGDT posted:Huge resurgence of anti-vaccine idiots on my Facebook recently. Has anyone else been experiencing this? I see more anti-GMO stuff, but then again I'm from Canada's west coast, so...
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Taaaaaaarb! posted:I see more anti-GMO stuff, but then again I'm from Canada's west coast, so... Ugh, this is the boat i'm in. No anti vaxxers but if I hear how we are all going to die of cancer because GMO again I might cut some folks off. I guess it's my fault for announcing publicly how much I enjoy the farmers market. drat it people, just because I like the market doesn't mean I subscribe to that particular crazy. also - TUMORS IN RATS WHO ATE GMO ZOMG!
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Tigntink posted:Ugh, this is the boat i'm in. No anti vaxxers but if I hear how we are all going to die of cancer because GMO again I might cut some folks off. I guess it's my fault for announcing publicly how much I enjoy the farmers market. drat it people, just because I like the market doesn't mean I subscribe to that particular crazy. That reminds me of this guy from North Carolina whom I met in a Berlin hostel. He didn't like Obama, he thought the Republicans should get a chance to govern because we gave the Democrats a chance and look at all the debt (uh what? Which President took us from surplus to deficits, and which President has been cutting the deficit?), and the guy was gay. He can't be too young to remember 2004 when Republicans got their base to the polls with anti-gay state constitutional amendments. I started to argue but he moved on to how GMO's were going to kill us all and I abruptly lost interest in the conversation.
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Anti-GMO people are only a step above anti-vaxxers anyway so yea, it's fair to lump them together.
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Taaaaaaarb! posted:I see more anti-GMO stuff, but then again I'm from Canada's west coast, so... I've been getting a lot of linked articles about this as well, mostly to the website real FARMacy. I mentioned to one relative (a cousin of mine) about how the vast majority of studies show that GMOs are safe, but they argued point-blank that GMOs are killing us. So I asked why people are today living longer than any point in history. He responded with "Well, we are sicker now then we were then, surely that is from the GMOs we eat everyday!" I said "No, we are not. We no longer die from many diseases that used to be straight up fatal." He then told me "You should know, KJ, I mean, you have diabetes!" I do. Type 1. It's genetic. I told him that but it's been about a week since his last response. I have "liked" pictures of his kids since tho.
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