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You are a very smart individual indeed. Anyway I'm off to go watch "Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer" and "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes". I suspect this combination to be highly enlightening as they both have killer in the title.
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EvilTobaccoExec posted:You are a very smart individual indeed. Careful, I made this mistake with Requiem for a Dream and Little Nemo in Dreamland.
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Dec 16, 2013 19:19
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Well I have to thank you for at least contributing to the fact that Whedon fanboys are even more condescending and single minded than I thought before. Enjoy both your film choices, they're good films too. If you think the main reason I thought Cabin In The Woods was a badly written, badly performed, unfunny and overall pointless movie that's completely and utterly overhyped because you don't have the ability to watch two films in a row then I honestly don't know what to say. If you want, I can find you an email address to complain to HBO that Eastbound and Down was scheduled next to Boardwalk Empire. How DARE they! Who on this planet could possibly enjoy these two shows next to each other in the schedule? It's a disgrace.
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Dec 16, 2013 19:23
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I'm not a Whedon fanboy I've never even seen Firefly  Kinda my point was that the outrageous negative reaction to Whedon on the internet is a bunch of whiny humorless nerds who cloud a visceral dislike of a man in a flurry of faux-critical analysis and pretensions to "higher art" and WELP. zoux fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Dec 16, 2013 |
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I think that expectations play a huge part in experience, which also comes across pretty heavily in your post where you were dismayed about Cabin being a comedy. Pretty different going into Antichrist knowing about Von Trier followed up by Evil Dead 2 if you've seen Evil Dead. Also I am huge Whedon fan boy. NOM NOM NOM ALIEN RESURRECTION NOM NOM NOM. Nothing here was you just being silly and defensive.
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Dec 16, 2013 19:27
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I love comedy, more than anything, so if Cabin in the Woods had turned out to be funny I would have had no problem with that whatsoever. It would've been a nice comedown after Berberian. The fact that the fans reactions to it completely oversold it is the point I have now made repeatedly, yet you still haven't taken onboard. The keyword in my original post was 'weak', not 'comedy'.
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Some serious slapfighting going down here. I'm binging Homeland S3 and Claire Danes really has that neurotic crazy paranoid don't-touch-me-with-a-ten-foot-pole act down to an art. Those crazy eyes 
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BrooklynBruiser posted:e: Dammit, zoux! I think Whedon's name still holds quite a bit of fan cache, though. I think part of the problem is that that era of his fanbase that grew up with Buffy have now sort of moved on to different things and they're just not as passionate about the show as they were in its prime. Now they're probably obsessed with Glee or what not. Also, Whedon works have tended to find a second life here and there that adds to the sense that Whedon knows better, the Networks are idiots and the fans are right. People want to act like the geek fandom wasn't opposed to Firefly when it was going to air, but blames Fox for everything that failed with the show. Buffy got second life with the comic book expanded seasons that made people claim that a continuation of the series would have been as good/better than that.
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Dec 16, 2013 19:57
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I think Buffy and Angel are garbage yet I really enjoyed Avengers and Cabin in the Woods. See guys, there is a middle ground where you can dislike and like stuff made by the same person!
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Dec 16, 2013 20:01
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Well tickle a pickle... I just looked it up and apparently Whedon only wrote Alien Resurrection. Jean-Pierre Jeunet directed that. Don't know how I could forget that that with the "City of Lost Children" vibes and casting.
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Dec 16, 2013 20:02
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Deadpool posted:I think Buffy and Angel are garbage yet I really enjoyed Avengers and Cabin in the Woods. See guys, there is a middle ground where you can dislike and like stuff made by the same person! You milquetoast cowards will go against the wall with the rest of the heretics who deny the divinity of The Most Holy Whedon (PBUH) when The Reckoning occurs.
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zoux posted:You milquetoast cowards will go against the wall with the rest of the heretics who deny the divinity of The Most Holy Whedon (PBUH) when The Reckoning occurs. Is there a way I can avoid the rapture while still not liking Dollhouse?
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JediTalentAgent posted:I think Whedon's name still holds quite a bit of fan cache, though. I think part of the problem is that that era of his fanbase that grew up with Buffy have now sort of moved on to different things and they're just not as passionate about the show as they were in its prime. Now they're probably obsessed with Glee or what not. It's also good to keep in mind that Whedon himself has graduated from niche genre auteur to billion-dollar blockbuster director these days.
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EvilTobaccoExec posted:Well tickle a pickle... I just looked it up and apparently Whedon only wrote Alien Resurrection. Jean-Pierre Jeunet directed that. I knew who the director was, but had no idea Whedon was the writer. Another bit of proof that knowledge of Whedon's involvement doesn't bias me into thinking some of the things he's made is garbage then. It makes me dislike him more though, as I'm one of those kind that thought Alien^3 was great and that Resurrection was the beginning of the end for the franchise. gently caress you Whedon!
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hcreight posted:Is there a way I can avoid the rapture while still not liking Dollhouse? Blasphemer! (Also another Whedon Joint I haven't seen).
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Dec 16, 2013 20:07
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hcreight posted:Is there a way I can avoid the rapture while still not liking Dollhouse? After the first 6 or so episodes Dollhouse wasn't bad at all. I didn't like the Felicia Day future-timeline episodes as much as the rest of it, but they were certainly an interesting thing to do.
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Dec 16, 2013 20:08
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I'm over as Felicia Day as hell. The Charlie Supernatural episodes are so loving obnoxious.
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Dec 16, 2013 20:10
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zoux posted:I'm over as Felicia Day as hell. The Charlie Supernatural episodes are so loving obnoxious. Isn't she just some youtube blogger or something? Like, not really an actress at all? What's she doing appearing on actual legit TV things when she demonstrably can't really act? Who am I kidding, you could ask that of any number of actors.
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Mu Zeta posted:Anyone else despise Dr. Horrible? Captain Hammer, obviously.
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Cactus posted:Isn't she just some youtube blogger or something? Like, not really an actress at all? What's she doing appearing on actual legit TV things when she demonstrably can't really act? Nah, she's got an acting background. I don't have anything against her personally, but the kind of roles she gets cast in are always as the cute geeky girl gamer and she's just so precious and twee as gently caress. At the risk of imploding this thread in the ultimate pedant showdown, she's the geek version of the Manic Pixie Dreamgirl.
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Cactus posted:What's she doing appearing on actual legit TV things when she demonstrably can't really act? The Minka Kelly Story.
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zoux posted:Nah, she's got an acting background. I don't have anything against her personally, but the kind of roles she gets cast in are always as the cute geeky girl gamer and she's just so precious and twee as gently caress. I'm curious, would Doctors Ten and Eleven be the male version of the Manic Pixie Dreamgirl. Hyper Hipster Dreamboat?
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zoux posted:Le mot juste... Jesus, that was a lot of words about Family Guy. I'm so ashamed 
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JediTalentAgent posted:I'm curious, would Doctors Ten and Eleven be the male version of the Manic Pixie Dreamgirl. Hyper Hipster Dreamboat? Honestly, an immortal, multidimensional temporal swashbuckler is an unrealistic standard to hold men to 
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zoux posted:Nah, she's got an acting background. I don't have anything against her personally, but the kind of roles she gets cast in are always as the cute geeky girl gamer and she's just so precious and twee as gently caress. In Buffy she played a Vampire Slayer, and in Dollhouse a post-apocalyptic resistance fighter.
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Deadpool posted:The Minka Kelly Story. I was recently struck by how similar her non-acting is to Agron's.
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Joramun posted:In Buffy she played a Vampire Slayer, and in Dollhouse a post-apocalyptic resistance fighter. Word? And how'd she pull those off?
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Cactus posted:Isn't she just some youtube blogger or something? Like, not really an actress at all? What's she doing appearing on actual legit TV things when she demonstrably can't really act? I learned who she was yesterday in one of the threads about terrible youtube people. Well kind of, I learned she's a "gaming goddess" and that this guy really, really, really likes her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fcz29oCFIE TRIGGER WARNING: really embarrassing... will make you cringe multiple times Guess that's implied by all youtube videos though.
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JediTalentAgent posted:I'm curious, would Doctors Ten and Eleven be the male version of the Manic Pixie Dreamgirl. Hyper Hipster Dreamboat? MPDB 
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EvilTobaccoExec posted:I learned who she was yesterday in one of the threads about terrible youtube people. Well kind of, I learned she's a "gaming goddess" and that this guy really, really, really likes her. http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=JQfHdasuWtI&start1=539&video2=X2WH8mHJnhM&start2=0&authorName=Self+destruction Same guy re: youtube copyright change. Mu Zeta posted:MPDB Epic would.
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I dropped off from this current season of AHS a few episodes back, did it get good yet? I posted here about how uncertain the show could be but I couldn't get my interest back up in catching up.
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zoux posted:Word? And how'd she pull those off? I don't remember much about her Dollhouse character but on Buffy she was one of the eleventy billion Slayers in waiting living in Buffy's house during the final season so she didn't have to do much most of the time.
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hcreight posted:I don't remember much about her Dollhouse character but on Buffy she was one of the eleventy billion Slayers in waiting living in Buffy's house during the final season so she didn't have to do much most of the time. The only action-oriented role I've seen her do is in one of those Supernatural episodes and she was just terrible at it, of course it could've been part of the character. I knew who she played in Buffy but I quit watching mid-way through season six I think.
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Mu Zeta posted:MPDB So true, yet I could care less  I also enjoy Buffy and Angel and most Whedon related ventures (never seen Dollhouse), and Felicia Day seems a'okay apart from her following 
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zoux posted:The only action-oriented role I've seen her do is in one of those Supernatural episodes and she was just terrible at it, of course it could've been part of the character. I knew who she played in Buffy but I quit watching mid-way through season six I think. Buffy ended in Season 5 and then they made a random musical episode(that was awesome) for no reason. Nope, no seasons 6 or 7, didn't happen. Don't know what you're talking about. AND there certainly weren't any completely abysmal comics after the series ended.
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EvilTobaccoExec posted:I learned who she was yesterday in one of the threads about terrible youtube people. Well kind of, I learned she's a "gaming goddess" and that this guy really, really, really likes her. I reached about 40 seconds and had to turn it off.
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I enjoy Whedon's oeuvre, though he wears on me and the endless slapfights about him make me hate him. I like Felicia Day well enough, though she can grate, but the endless slapfights about her make me like her even more.
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Slamhound posted:the endless slapfights about him make me hate him. They just make me hate the people in them. A few years ago the Whedon slapfight was the Kevin Smith slapfight. How does that make you feel, slapfighters? 10 years from now people will look upon you like you now look upon Kevin Smith.
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Epi Lepi posted:Buffy ended in Season 5 and then they made a random musical episode(that was awesome) for no reason. Nope, no seasons 6 or 7, didn't happen. Don't know what you're talking about. AND there certainly weren't any completely abysmal comics after the series ended. The first half of S7 was the best the show had been since the third season. It kind of poo poo the bed after that, but I still have pleasant memories b/c of that.
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