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Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
We're having a big surge of interest in the club: Plenty of people interested in Haqqislam and Tohaa, which I feel I know enough to help with.

However, a friend bought the Acontecimento starter and is asking how to expand it into a 300 point army. I don't know much about how any PanO faction works. Any hints on how to get a workable list for a decent $$ price?

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Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Let's see. Single Bagh-Mari are kinda lackluster, so using the rest of the pack would be:

SHOCK ARMY OF ACONTECIMENTO
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

GROUP 1 8 0 0

REGULAR Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)
REGULAR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)
REGULAR Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 17)
REGULAR (Minelayer, Sensor) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 14)
REGULAR (Minelayer, Sensor) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 14)
KNIGHT OF MONTESA Combi Rifle / Pistol, AP CCW. (46)
COMMANDO AKAL Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (23)
REGULAR Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 15)

3 SWC | 149 Points

Open with Army 4


Then expanding to 200pt:

SHOCK ARMY OF ACONTECIMENTO
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

GROUP 1 9 0 0

REGULAR Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)
REGULAR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)
REGULAR Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 17)
REGULAR (Minelayer, Sensor) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 14)
REGULAR (Minelayer, Sensor) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 14)
KNIGHT OF MONTESA Combi Rifle / Pistol, AP CCW. (46)
COMMANDO AKAL Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (23)
NAGA Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 37)
SIERRA DRONBOT HMG, Antipersonnel Mines / Electric Pulse. (1 | 28)

3.5 SWC | 199 Points

Open with Army 4



And to 300:

SHOCK ARMY OF ACONTECIMENTO
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

GROUP 1 10 0 0

REGULAR Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)
REGULAR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)
REGULAR Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 17)
REGULAR (Minelayer, Sensor) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 14)
REGULAR (Minelayer, Sensor) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 14)
KNIGHT OF MONTESA Combi Rifle / Pistol, AP CCW. (46)
COMMANDO AKAL Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (0.5 | 35)
NAGA Combi Rifle, Monofilament Mines / Pistol, Knife. (32)
SIERRA DRONBOT HMG, Antipersonnel Mines / Electric Pulse. (1 | 28)
DRÃGAO Hyper-rapid Magnetic Cannon., Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 94)

5.5 SWC | 300 Points

Open with Army 4

Acocimento is weird.


Fanzay posted:

Considering that you're supposed to measure from the middle off the base, how the gently caress does that work with base extensions like that?
You still measure to the center of the main base, base extensions don't count.

stabbington
Sep 1, 2007

It doesn't feel right to kill an unarmed man... but I'll get over it.
Running an Acontecimento list without a Guarda de Assalto feels like a crime for how much grief those drat things have given me. Hard to fit it in if you're running a good Regular link and a Dragoes, but if you're after a non-TAG list, he's probably well worth considering. BS15 shooting is horseshit, especially when it comes with its own bonus Zero-V smoke LGL to camp out in/block fire lanes with.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Yeah, great options to expand to with ASA are:
Guarda de Assalto.
Naga
Dragoe
Toni Macayana (She has no sculpt).
Bagh Mari (ideally HMG then Sniper).
More Regulars to make larger link teams, etc.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Gorgos!

dexefiend
Apr 25, 2003

THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!

That looks badass. I am really excited about getting that and then making myself paint my Tohaa.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Tohaa tiny legs strikes again.


Table tonight with about 1/3 of what we have. Very cool stuff, we've got enough to deck out 3 tables worth atm. We want to get a 4th so I can run 8 man tourneys with purely for-Infinity terrain. :)

Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Dec 20, 2013

Squibsy
Dec 3, 2005

Not suited, just booted.
College Slice
Hot drat that looks good.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
A little big for the staline, but it's a mean design.

I really want the drat Thamyris model to come out, since it's a mainstay in all my Phalanx lists.

Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON

I'm still just not feeling the Tohaa aesthetic. That thing just looks like a lot of exposed vital flesh for no reason to my eyes.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


I want to know why they all have such stumpy legs.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Infinity Christmas wohoo! :woop:



That means I'm set for basic Yu Jing for now. Which also means the following to paint for the end-of-January tournament (2 lists each for me and my friend)





:getin:

Also, in this week's episode of "Suicide Promotion Hotline":


:suicide:

And if you're still reading, the new ITS scenario previews are available.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Printed the preview missions off and we're planning to give them a test on our next gaming night. Which is next Thursday. :)

Very nice haul. I didn't get any Infinity for Christmas, but I got something that is brilliant for them!

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Nice, your first airbrush? I'd flatly refuse to paint without one now, the difference is as night and day. You're gonna have hell with that side/bottom feed, for miniatures it's gravity all the way.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Pierzak posted:

Nice, your first airbrush? I'd flatly refuse to paint without one now, the difference is as night and day. You're gonna have hell with that side/bottom feed, for miniatures it's gravity all the way.
Yeah, this is purely for learning with so I'll be getting a different brush further down the line to actually paint my mans with. But this stuff seems good enough for my terrain and some practice minis. :)

Doctors Inc
May 28, 2011
Yesterday I played with some other quite new to infinity guys and a question came up about the explode skill on the Yu Ying Kuang-shi troops.

Are these correct?

1. If they use their dogged skill in their active turn they don't go unconscious so no explosion but regular death
2. If they are shot during their reactive turn they go unconscious and explode automatically
2.1 If they get hit by shock or viral or something inducing instantkill they don't explode.
3. If they willingly forgo their dogged skill and go unconscious in their active turn they explode
4. If their player falls below 40% of his stating points and goes into retreat they all explode
5. If the controller uses his device all active models explode
6. If a Fiday catches the controller after killing its previous owner, he can make them explode too

Doctors Inc fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Dec 30, 2013

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
All correct.

Doctors Inc
May 28, 2011
Thank you for the fast reply. But I added two more questions to that list in the meantime.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
The Fiday one is wrong, impersonators can only grab a weapon. But if it's scavenged by a Booty model? I'd allow it.

Doctors Inc
May 28, 2011
Too bad, that would have been a nice trick for my Fiday :getin:

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


New releases up, watch this post for photos.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
^^^: You snooze you lose :v:





Morat starter:





Uxia McNeill resculpt:





Stephen Rao:




(oh and a CG repack I guess)

Love the new Morats, badass without being overdone. Hated the Raktorak's concept art but the helmet saves it. Not convinced about the new Oznat design, but I'll be converting another one in the old style (someday... when I get to it...), so no big deal. The only thing I don't like is the Sogarat's big base.

Uxia is the same old style with a whole new class of quality. I love that she's still a no-nonsense army woman and not an anime teenager like the other one.

Rao... Well, PanO does nothing for me, so whatever. I love the weapon redesign though. Reversed mags still look ugly, but getting rid of the upper one made the rifle look much less ridiculous. And the barrels are better.

ed: Combi rifle and LIGHT flamer? gently caress youuuu CB! :argh:

Pierzak fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Dec 30, 2013

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Updating OP because your post is awful.

Love the new PanO weapons, not a fan of the actual model though, he looks a bit... I'm not sure, just crappy.

The Morat box was worth the wait though, holy gently caress.

bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx
Holy moly that Uxia is amazing. No-nonsense army woman indeed.

MCPeePants
Feb 25, 2013
So how are the contents of that new Morat starter? From what I remember, Vanguard Infantry are considered pretty mediocre, and largely replaceable by Daturazi. Those new sculpts are drat nice though.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
They may get use because the new character is linkable with them and because the new tournament scenarios allow paramedics as specialists. Before, yeah, they were plain overcosted.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


I think what grips me about Rao is that CB have zero consistency with what colour armour Bagh-Mari are meant to be. Why are the jungle fighters, with green armour having once been the standard, now blue?

Dr. Clockwork
Sep 9, 2011

I'LL PUT MY SCIENCE IN ALL OF YOU!
That Morat starters OWNS. :flashfap:

stabbington
Sep 1, 2007

It doesn't feel right to kill an unarmed man... but I'll get over it.
Holy god drat that Morat starter. It's everything I could have hoped for (except the weird 40mm base on the Sogarat, what the hell).

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Played a game of YAMS today using two sets of the Spartan Scenics terrain, my camera crapped out on me though so no pictures, but I played a very odd list:

JURISDICTIONAL COMMAND OF BAKUNIN
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GROUP 1 7 1 1

REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Marker / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 38)
CHIMERA Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Zero-V Smoke Grenades / Viral CCW. (24)
3x PUPNIK DA CCW.
SIN-EATER Spitfire / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 32)
SIN-EATER Mk12 / Pistol, CCW. (29)
ZERO Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (18)
ZERO (Deployable Repeater) E/Mauler, Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)
ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
PROWLER Spitfire, D-Charges / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 37)

GROUP 2 4 3 3

LUNOKHOD Boarding Shotgun, Akrylat-Kanone, D-Charges / Electric Pulse. (26)
MODERATOR Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 14)
MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (9)
MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (9)
MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (7)
MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (7)
MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (7)

5.5 SWC | 300 Points

Open with Army 4

Vs

ASSAULT SUBSECTION
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GROUP 1 9 0 2

MACHAON Lieutenant Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Zero-V Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (0.5 | 39)
AJAX 2 Combi Rifles, Nanopulser / Pistol, EXP CCW. (0.5 | 43)
PHOENIX Heavy Rocket Launcher, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (2 | 44)
MYRMIDON Spitfire, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (1 | 32)
MYRMIDON Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 37)
MYRMIDON Boarding Shotgun, Nanopulser, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW. (25)
AGÊMA Marksman (X Visor) Mk12 / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 28)
PENTHESILEA Combi Rifle, Contender, Nanopulser / Pistol, Monofilament CCW. (46)
NETROD Electric Pulse. (4)

5 SWC | 298 Points

Open with Army 4


It was an almost purely interior fight though, we had a generic tileset for a 4x4 of a kind of sci-fi decking and just placed the buildings over it. So basically any open pieces were sort of starship lobbies sort of thing. It's hard to describe but it looked very cool. We had a metric poo poo ton of scatter so it looked awesome.

I went up against a buddies Steel Phalanx which was quite low model count and he found my list an absolute poo poo to deal with. I was dropping mines and e/maulers in the most aggravating positions I could think of and had teams of Morlocks covering one side, Sin Eaters locking down the other and my Uberfall charging head long through smoke grenades and murdering dudes.

Ajax may be a beast, but he isn't beast enough to take on the Uberfall, Pupniks and two Morlocks. :v:

Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Dec 31, 2013

bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx
So I totally hosed up my timing and missed completing my oath by a whole ~45 minutes.



Good thing I have a Veteran Kazak with HMG painted, right? :gbsmith:

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


He looks rad, and that's all that matters. :)

bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx

Flipswitch posted:

He looks rad, and that's all that matters. :)

He'll look even more rad once he's given a layer of dullcote. Only question now is what to paint next, and the Autocannon Tankhunter is probably due.

EDIT: Went ahead and assembled him. The little bar piece was annoying to fix; I don't see how you PanO andNomad players put up with a million of those per model.

bhsman fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Jan 2, 2014

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


I take out the frustrations of my life on them. :v:

Played some more rad games today, snuck out a win vs a buddies Bakunin with him proxying some Uberfall from my Riot Grrls. Holy gently caress they are scary, I had forgotten what it's like to face against them.

Highlights include a showdown in a control room between Lupe and an Intruder vs a drat Sin Eater and a Reverend Moreass. Sin Eaters are scary as gently caress indoors with Mk12s.



LumberingTroll
Sep 9, 2007

Really it's not because
I don't like you...
Great looking board, I am curious to see how you paint the spartan terrain, I haven't seen any tutorials or guides from others that have yet, which is pretty surprising.

The official guide is awful, and doesn't explain anything or even give any good tips about painting them.

LumberingTroll fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Jan 3, 2014

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Yeah I'm gonna come up with some schemes and think it over, we want it to be as versatile as possible for industrial/jungle and starship terrain tables so I really need to plan ahead with it.

Doctors Inc
May 28, 2011
As the Infinity line of fire / line of sight rules are somewhat open to interpretation in certain specific cases, I have a short question how this is being ruled during official tournaments. Our local group is perfectly able to solve this by houseruling, but I would like to know if there is any official ruling on something like this. As it could be quite gamechanging depending on how it's ruled.

It came up when one of my figures walked to a corner of a building, shooting around the corner at several enemy models standing there, all of them touching the wall with their bases.

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O  O  O  
1. Now could all of them ARO to my figure appearing at the corner by shooting at me?
2. Or would only the closest enemy be able to shoot while the other two couldn't draw a lof through their comrade?
3. Or would we have to decide on the specific models used and see who might have a glimpse at a head sized part of my model during my movement?

The latter might be the intended solution, but in a tournament situation this could lead to a load of discussion.

This is what we found in the FAQ:

"FAQ - Line of Fire" posted:

Enemy and allied miniatures in the LoF block it and a player is not permitted to attack their own troops. If the target chosen is bigger than friendly models in the LoF, then LoF is not blocked.

...

Can a model draw LOF through an enemy models base from gaps left by the enemy miniature, such as the gap between its legs?
No.

So in the first paragraph, do they talk about base sizes, or miniature height or miniture bulkiness?
And in the second part, is the space below an arm for axample also a gap that cannot be used to draw an lof?

S.W.O.R.D. Agent
Apr 30, 2012

As far as my understanding goes, only C would get a reaction if the base sizes of A, B, and C are the same size. If A or B was a remote, TAG, AJAX, etc. you would then check to see if LOS could be drawn to the base of the enemy model. Otherwise, only one ARO from C (A and B could ARO to change facing if they're within 8").

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O  O  O  
A  B  C

Baron Snow
Feb 8, 2007


I also read it that A & B would get the shot if the opponent was a TAG.

Doctors Inc posted:

So in the first paragraph, do they talk about base sizes, or miniature height or miniture bulkiness?
And in the second part, is the space below an arm for axample also a gap that cannot be used to draw an lof?

Most of the game rules seem to refer to base sizes, as bulkiness and miniature height tends to be the same, with a few dumb exceptions. I'd go with what makes sense for the situation.
As for question 2, I think there is a rule somewhere about arms and legs and LOS, but I'm not sure where it is.

Baron Snow fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Jan 7, 2014

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Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Me and a buddy are gonna play test some 400pt games using a mixture of scenario packs, ITS, YAMS and whatever. One of my lists is:

NEOTERRAN CAPITALINE ARMY
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GROUP 1 10 0 0

SQUALO (Armoured Cav.) Lieutenant MULTI HMG, Heavy Grenade Launcher / . (2 | 101)
SQUALO (Armoured Cav.) MULTI HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 93)
AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_2 / Pistol, Knife. (20)
AUXBOT_2 (Forward Observer) Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse.
AUXILIA (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_2 / Pistol, Knife. (20)
AUXBOT_2 (Forward Observer) Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse.
DEVA Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 35)
AQUILA HMG / Pistol, Shock CCW. (2 | 60)
ÍNDIGO (WIP13, Hyper-Dynamics L1, Doctor) Combi Rifle, Spitfire / Pistol, Knife. (10 | 12XP)
FUSILIER Combi Rifle + Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 15)
FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (14)
MACHINIST Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (15)
PALBOT Electric Pulse. (3)

GROUP 2 1 0 0

MULEBOT (EVO Repeater) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 13)

8 SWC | 399 Points

Open with Army 4


Which is cool, not entirely sold on my Indigo load out, but I want to try it. I know for a fact what toys in his faction he can't resist like a Guija and the Tiger drop troops, so I'm coming prepped. But he knows what type of tricks I'll be bringing too, because we play games together a lot, so should be interesting. I picked a second Squalo instead of the Uhlan because it's a bit cheaper at 7pts and I really wanted the Palbot incase one of them goes down. What do you goons think?

Other lists:

NEOTERRAN CAPITALINE ARMY
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

GROUP 1 9 0 0

UHLAN HMG, Feuerbach / . (2 | 100)
DEVA (Multispectral Visor L2) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 34)
DEVA (Multispectral Visor L2) Spitfire, Nanopulser / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 34)
AUXILIA Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (14)
AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse.
AUXILIA Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (14)
AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse.
FUSILIER HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 19)
FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)
FUSILIER Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)
FUSILIER (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (14)

GROUP 2 7 0 0

HEXA Spitfire / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 31)
HEXA Spitfire / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 31)
AUXILIA Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (14)
AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse.
AUXILIA Combi Rifle + AUXBOT_1 / Pistol, Knife. (14)
AUXBOT_1 Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse.
BULLETEER Heavy Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (25)
BULLETEER Heavy Shotgun / Electric Pulse. (25)
ÍNDIGO (WIP15, BTS-3, Engineer, Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife, Stun Pistol. (10 | 12XP)

8 SWC | 399 Points

Open with Army 4


SHOCK ARMY OF ACONTECIMENTO
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

GROUP 1 8 0 0

MACAYANA Lieutenant HMG, Heavy Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / AP CCW. (2 | 89)
BAGH-MARI HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 27)
BAGH-MARI Combi Rifle+ Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (22)
BAGH-MARI (Minelayer) MULTI Sniper Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 34)
BAGH-MARI Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (18)
TRAUMA-DOC Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (14)
NAGA Combi Rifle, Monofilament Mines / Pistol, Knife. (32)
MULEBOT (Minesweeper) Electric Pulse. (8)

GROUP 2 8 0 0

REGULAR Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)
REGULAR (Minelayer, Sensor) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 14)
REGULAR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)
REGULAR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)
SINGH Combi Rifle / Assault Pistol, CCW. (37)
COMMANDO AKAL Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, CCW. (23)
COMMANDO AKAL Combi Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (23)
SIERRA DRONBOT HMG, Antipersonnel Mines / Electric Pulse. (1 | 28)

6.5 SWC | 399 Points

Open with Army 4


I've got a few more I'm writing up, there's a lot to do at this point scale.

Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Jan 8, 2014

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