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He's right, not everyone should go to college. The rest is standard political bullshit.
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His tact and approach was absolutely idiotic, so, no, he wasn't right. What's right is to say that not everyone needs to go to college. I completely agree. What he said was that the President is a snob for wanting everyone to go to college, which, of course, means, "If possible." There's like no living adult with kids who doesn't, somewhere in their gut, want their kid to go to school because they think it means a better future, which is why it wasn't just obviously wrong (i.e. Obama never said every single person should go to college or they're morons), but stupid. You have to remember, Santorum is a spectacularly bad politician considering how far he's come. He managed to lose an incumbent Senate seat by basically alienating everyone other than the craziest base people. In other words, once you get to know him you really learn how much you loathe him. His comment on college was a typically tone-deaf Santorum "I'm an idiot who is out of touch with the American public" comment and played as such.
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ReindeerF posted:His tact and approach was absolutely idiotic, so, no, he wasn't right. quote:You have to remember, Santorum is a spectacularly bad politician considering how far he's come. He managed to lose an incumbent Senate seat by basically alienating everyone other than the craziest base people. In other words, once you get to know him you really learn how much you loathe him. His comment on college was a typically tone-deaf Santorum "I'm an idiot who is out of touch with the American public" comment and played as such. Oh, I don't know about that either. He was a major upset in his first congressional victory and managed to keep the seat despite being screwed by redistricting. In part he did this specifically by appealing to lower class, blue collar people, the exact same types that in my experience are most likely to shrug college off as a scam. These are also the people who supported him in his senate campaigns where he himself unseated a sitting incumbent. His winning coalition is too small these days to be anything but a losing coalition but it was certainly an acceptable one in the ninties.
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Dec 15, 2013 13:55
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Barney Frank has effectively destroyed his presidential prospects by coming out of the closet ... as an atheist. 
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ufarn posted:Barney Frank has effectively destroyed his presidential prospects by coming out of the closet ... as an atheist. A gay atheist socialist? Wanna vote for that Republican boogeyman. 
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Dec 16, 2013 01:58
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Other than Dodd-Frank, wasn't Barney pretty cozy with the finance industry?
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Dec 16, 2013 04:33
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The X-man cometh posted:Other than Dodd-Frank, wasn't Barney pretty cozy with the finance industry? Dodd-Frank was very cozy with the industry as well. It essentially avoided any regulation on the types of activities that caused the 2008 crash.
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Huckabee quitting his TV and radio gigs may not be the start of a Presidential campaign. It seems that with the recent acquisition of Red State, Twitchy, and Regnery, the ol' Huckster has noticed there's gold in them there right wing websites and is starting the Huckabee Post.
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Dec 18, 2013 03:02
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Trying to copy the runaway success of The Daily Caller and The Blaze. Solid business model.
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Dec 18, 2013 06:43
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Doesn't Beck actually make a lot of money off of his stuff? I know people were crowing about it years ago but since then he's fortunately been out of sight, out of mind for me.
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He makes a shitload, yeah. Something close to $100MM last time I checked - I don't remember exactly. More than all the other AM talk types. I've always had trouble believing The Blaze makes a ton, but there are large numbers of people who will pay him his $99 or whatever annual fee for their daily hate I'm sure. My personal guess is that his radio money, publishing and endorsement contracts are the bulk of his annual income and that his web site is a valuable arm of his overall empire more in terms of promotion. Still, I don't think there are any public numbers to prove that, so it could very well be a huge chunk of money and I could very well be completely wrong. I stand by The Daily Caller sucking, though!
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Dec 18, 2013 17:12
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Beck's audience might not be as big as it used to be but the website/Blaze/whatever is all people purposely going to Beck's site so they're valuable to advertisers who want the valuable "white people with disposable income and maybe a touch of doomsday panic" demographic. That's in contrast to his AM talk radio show (if he even still does that anymore, I don't know if he does) which is, if people aren't in their cars they very well might not be listening.
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Please tell me that $100M number for Beck is an insane overestimate or I don't really want to live in this world anymore. Edit: 
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mdemone posted:Please tell me that $100M number for Beck is an insane overestimate or I don't really want to live in this world anymore. He actually only made $90M last year.
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Dec 18, 2013 20:03
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mdemone posted:Please tell me that $100M number for Beck is an insane overestimate or I don't really want to live in this world anymore. But think of all the jobs he's creating!
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notthegoatseguy posted:That's in contrast to his AM talk radio show (if he even still does that anymore, I don't know if he does) which is, if people aren't in their cars they very well might not be listening. He at least has an FM radio show. I often listen to it on the morning on my way home from work because I like to laugh/feel angry. He frequently waxes melodramatic about his particular canards, just like old times. He gets even more religious on his show than he used to, saying stuff you'd think you'd only hear on a conservative Christian radio station, like how we all need to return to the "Biblical foundations of the Republic" and all that bs. And of course lots of shilling for The Blaze.
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Brian Schweitzer is deploying the, "It's still 2007, right?" strategy in Iowa.quote:“When we were attacked at 9/11 by 17 Saudis and two Egyptians who called themselves al-Qaeda, who weren’t welcome in Iraq, and George Bush got a bunch of Democrats to vote to go to that war, I was just shaking my head in Montana,” Schweitzer told a small crowd of about 80 people at a fundraising event organized by a left-leaning advocacy group called Progress Iowa.
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Joementum posted:Brian Schweitzer is deploying the, "It's still 2007, right?" strategy in Iowa. Wow that dude needs an injection of charisma
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:Wow that dude needs an injection of charisma Just don't inject it into his jowls. quote:“When we were attacked at 9/11 by 17 Saudis and two Egyptians who called themselves al-Qaeda, who weren’t welcome in Iraq, and George Bush got a bunch of Democrats to vote to go to that war, I was just shaking my head in Montana,” Schweitzer told a small crowd of about 80 people at a fundraising event organized by a left-leaning advocacy group called Progress Iowa. ronpaulsittingalone.jpg
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Joementum posted:Brian Schweitzer is deploying the, "It's still 2007, right?" strategy in Iowa. I'm curious to see how Hillary's Iraq War vote factors into the 2016 race. Yeah, it was over a decade ago, but my impression from 2008 is that there's generally not a lot of daylight between the smarmy platforms of the "serious" candidates. Candidates have to thread the needle between "differentiate myself from Clinton" and "still be moderate enough for pundits and big money donors", and there straight up aren't a lot of ways to do that. If you go to stuff like single payer or "no semi-auto weapons" or "guaranteed basic income" then you get written off by everyone as "unserious". You can't effectively campaign on "we both want immigration reform, but mine is marginally less restrictive" or "my education plans punch teachers' unions slightly less hard". So you're left with personal charisma/likability (which Schweitzer doesn't have) or "well I was a Gov, and that's way better experience than Senate/SecState/First Lady" (good luck on that one) or "I'm a Washington outsider".
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Joementum posted:Brian Schweitzer is deploying the, "It's still 2007, right?" strategy in Iowa. It worked against Clinton and Biden once already?  
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Depending on who it is, they can campaign on "I got results as [whatever]", which is experience in a different package. Clinton doesn't want to remind people of Benghazi since it galvanizes cranks, and Biden doesn't want to remind everyone that the VP is ineffectual and he's spent eight years being the butt of jokes.
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Cease to Hope posted:Depending on who it is, they can campaign on "I got results as [whatever]", which is experience in a different package. Clinton doesn't want to remind people of Benghazi since it galvanizes cranks, and Biden doesn't want to remind everyone that the VP is ineffectual and he's spent eight years being the butt of jokes. This is somewhat complicated by the fact that the economy's been struggling. And either way, it's going to take a lot to put someone ahead of Clinton. Barack Obama pulled off a nail-biter by out-strategizing the Clinton team and running hard on Obama's charisma and personal story. Clinton's fixed a lot of her 2008 weaknesses and is going to be tougher to beat.
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Schweitzer is probably DOA due to low name rec and skeletons, but if he has any chance at all it's trying to assemble a weird populist rural conservadem/bold progressive coalition in Iowa. So that's the kind of red meat that can play to both sides of his potential coalition.
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Pretty sure she'd bring more'n a sixah from the packey if she were running, but I'm no pundit.
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Well, Elizabeth Warren and Sam Adams have one thing in common: they've both pretended to be Indians!  Thanks, folks! I'll be here all week, unless I decide to move to New Hampshire
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Kenlon posted:
Welcome to the Beltway press. Everyone plausible is running, even if they decide to hook up a cross-country stereo system to announce they aren't.
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Gen. Ripper posted:Welcome to the Beltway press. Everyone plausible is running And also Elizabeth Warren apparently.
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Cease to Hope posted:And also Elizabeth Warren apparently. Dude, she brought beer.
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Pohl posted:Dude, she brought beer. She brought beer made in the memory of a founding father. This sends just as big a message as Palin wearing the jogging suit while saying she wasn't going to run.
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Guys, he's very obviously joking in that tweet.
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Dec 20, 2013 15:23
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Joementum posted:Guys, he's very obviously joking in that tweet.
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Dec 20, 2013 15:31
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Joementum posted:Guys, he's very obviously joking in that tweet. Or maybe it's you who are joking in this post. 
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Dec 20, 2013 16:08
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Joementum posted:Guys, he's very obviously joking in that tweet.
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Dec 20, 2013 16:10
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I think the internet needs a new Poe's Law concerning the speculative tweets of pundits. But whom shall we name it after?
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If they're painfully wrong? Maybe Dick Morris? If they're loving around I dunno.
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Presumably if we're talking about Dick Morris then the natural translation would be Toe's Law.
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The Kentucky legislature is preparing legislation that would allow Rand to run for both Senate and President at the same time.
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