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Knuc If U Buck posted:I just completely ruined my run 2 duchies away from becoming the Shaoshyant. Firstly, my young ruler became incapable in a battle at 97% war score, preventing him from flipping laws to primo, then the kingdom of Persia went to an elderly vassal not of my dynasty including my demesne, while I kept my heir's lovely single province and the actual empire. After that I got a rush of blood, and knowing it was a huge mistake and I should just mop up the duchies and call it a day, I then used my claims to revoke and lost major battles in the subsequent wars. Queue faction rebellion bonanza, and I'm a huge loving idiot. And at the end of the day all you're really doing is building a nice neat sandcastle for the Mongols to kick over. Then they call you a nerd and run off with your sister-girlfriend  .
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That's what I'm saying. Give in. Be the Mongols. Also, if Tarasenko Tank's comments of the game running considerably slower with SoA enabled are right, I guess I'll have to stick with V2 and EU3 during the summer, since my laptop could barely run CK2 during July. What a shame 
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Excelzior posted:Unrelated but I feel it should be stated because there is no tooltip for this for some obscure reason : God drat, thank you for that I have been clicking like an idiot the whole time and I feel like my mouse is going to give up on me.
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grancheater posted:That's what I'm saying. Give in. Be the Mongols.
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hellsjudge posted:God drat, thank you for that I have been clicking like an idiot the whole time and I feel like my mouse is going to give up on me. Whenever you find yourself in a position where you have to click the same button multiple times, try the shift/crtl click. Patrician elections suddenly become much less tedious..
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Marenghi posted:So what's the point of the cardinal college? Spending money can get your own bishop elected but doesn't guarantee they will vote favourable for your goals. And the benefits of a Pope who likes you as I can see is the ability to ask for money or a divorce. Claims don't seem as cut and dry as if they like the current title holder the claim mightn't be granted. If you spend money to get them elected cardinal, it becomes a massive boost if they become pope and they'll almost always give you a few claims or a ton of money.
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I'm gradually absorbing England into my Irish empire, but one of my vassal dukes decided to jump the gun and start swiping English counties for himself. This is a problem because he's turning my realm into this ugly hodgepodge of dark lines as he destroys the de jure English duchies (not literally) and adds their counties to his own little fiefdom. Assuming I can get the counties back from him (he'll probably rebel the next time the crown changes hands), is there a way I can reconstitute the original duchies? Do I have to destroy the claims and then reform them?
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grancheater posted:That's what I'm saying. Give in. Be the Mongols. Tried it many times. There gets a point where zoroastrian and sunni rebellions tear your realm apart. Also, turks aren't mongols.
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Spakstik posted:I'm gradually absorbing England into my Irish empire, but one of my vassal dukes decided to jump the gun and start swiping English counties for himself. This is a problem because he's turning my realm into this ugly hodgepodge of dark lines as he destroys the de jure English duchies (not literally) and adds their counties to his own little fiefdom. Assuming I can get the counties back from him (he'll probably rebel the next time the crown changes hands), is there a way I can reconstitute the original duchies? Do I have to destroy the claims and then reform them? You can plot to revoke his extrajurisdictional counties or retract vassalage now, he'll hate you for it and you'll get an opinion penalty, but it'll cure the sperg rage and might be better to do when your king is about to croak. I had the same issue when my vassal republic started holy warring everything for land but as long as they bring in the tax money it's all good, who cares about lines.
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Dec 20, 2013 07:07
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PleasingFungus posted:Sengoku update: reinstalled the mod (correctly, in the user directory) & played a little while. It's not; concubinage was common, and polygamy was not banned until 1945. Please stop forcing your Christian sensibilities and customs on the yellow menace.
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Dec 20, 2013 09:06
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Tarasenko Tank posted:Does adding Sons of Abraham make the game run slower? I used to be able to sim through the years quickly but now I can barely get through two years on the fastest setting, even after editing the graphics options.
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Dec 20, 2013 09:33
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There have been quite a lot of improvements under the hood of the game in the past few months, so it shouldn't be running much slower than it did at launch.
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I started listening to the 3 Moves Ahead podcasts and now with the steam sale I want to jump in and pick up CK 2. Should I grab one of the steam bundles or pick up the base game and pick a few DLC?
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You might as well grab the whole bundle when it is on sale.
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Dec 20, 2013 09:54
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Knuc If U Buck posted:Also, turks aren't mongols. No, but they're probably fairly closely related.
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Dec 20, 2013 09:55
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Riso posted:You might as well grab the whole bundle when it is on sale. Amazon has it all even cheaper. Good times.
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Knuc If U Buck posted:I just completely ruined my run 2 duchies away from becoming the Shaoshyant. Firstly, my young ruler became incapable in a battle at 97% war score, preventing him from flipping laws to primo, then the kingdom of Persia went to an elderly vassal not of my dynasty including my demesne, while I kept my heir's lovely single province and the actual empire. After that I got a rush of blood, and knowing it was a huge mistake and I should just mop up the duchies and call it a day, I then used my claims to revoke and lost major battles in the subsequent wars. Queue faction rebellion bonanza, and I'm a huge loving idiot. In a recent game as Songhay, I noticed that during a bunch of wacky chaos in Persia a Zoroastrian rebellion succeeded in going independent in Birjand. A few years later they'd expanded a bit, and then they converted to Mazdakism (socialist Zoroastrianism) and by the time of the Il Khanate invasion they'd taken the whole de jure kingdom of Persia, and converted it too. The Il Khanate proceeded to expand just to their borders, then turn north and start taking over Cumania, and when the Golden Horde arrived and started after Russia, the Mongols turned on themselves and wiped out their own doomstacks. Sometime in the mid 1300s the Mazdaki Persians took the last of their holy sites from the Il Khanate during a big series of rebellions, declared themselves Shaoshyant, and then bounced a Sunni Jihad and started moving into Mesopotamia.
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Tarasenko Tank posted:Does adding Sons of Abraham make the game run slower? I used to be able to sim through the years quickly but now I can barely get through two years on the fastest setting, even after editing the graphics options. Are you playing iron man? It forces an autosave every month which slows my games down significantly to the point I just had to go back to playing normals.
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A_Spec posted:No, but they're probably fairly closely related. Not even nearly close enough to ignore the distinction.
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Can you still use the console in ironman games? I want to retry my Republic of Brittany game now that my grad school applications are in, but I need that initial console weirdness to set it up. I'm not worried about achievements, since I'll be using the character builder anyway.
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Nolanar posted:Can you still use the console in ironman games? I want to retry my Republic of Brittany game now that my grad school applications are in, but I need that initial console weirdness to set it up. I'm not worried about achievements, since I'll be using the character builder anyway. Nope, the console is disabled on Ironman. Also, there is no point to Ironman besides the Achievements.
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Dec 20, 2013 16:48
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And the bragging rights.
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Riso posted:And the bragging rights. I thought I mentionned the achievements already hiyooooo
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Technically, you can unlock the achievements without playing the game.
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I've had a great game as ruler designed replacement-Karen Zoroastrian Persia. Aside from Zoroastrianism winning, we've got reformed Slavic Paganism dominating Poland, Russia, Bohemia, Hungary(!), and Sweden(!!), resurgent and surprisingly stable Byzantines that I don't have the heart to crush, Norse pagans ruling Ireland and Scotland, surviving Jewish Khazars, Orthodox (formerly Cathar) Croatian Bavaria, Karlings only in control of the remnants of East Francia, and fractured, ineffective Muslims that are about to lose their holy land to Zoroastrianism. Awesome things about Zoroastrians: when you're married to your sister, she is referred to as "your sister-wife" Not awesome things about Zoroastrians: count-level Zoroastrian theocratic rulers are referred to as counts. Pakled fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Dec 20, 2013 |
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Knuc If U Buck posted:Tried it many times. There gets a point where zoroastrian and sunni rebellions tear your realm apart. Also, turks aren't mongols. I wasn't talking about the turks though. What I'm saying is to pick the mongols bookmark and play as the mongols. You'll quickly be able to raise 15-20k retinues that can handle any religion rebels, especially if 2.0.2 nerfed their event troops. Just move your capital to one of the higher-tech counties.
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So the new patch is making my mods crash, is there any way to go back to the last patch on steam? I think I've seen something about it before, but I can't find it and it might just have been going to the 1.1 beta patch since that's the only one I can find.
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Is there a way to force The Papacy into becoming your vassals? I'd love a tax from that sweet 40k gold the pope has. I just formed the Kingdom of Italy and pressed a de jure claim on the Pope, but then I clicked the restore Papacy button because I didn't know what the gently caress it did. Lo and behold, it made Rome independent again  .
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hellsjudge posted:Is there a way to force The Papacy into becoming your vassals? I'd love a tax from that sweet 40k gold the pope has. Be an Empire, make an Antipope, press his claim.
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toasterwarrior posted:Be an Empire, make an Antipope, press his claim. Ah okay, does the College of Cardinals stay the same with an antipope?  This is loving hilarious, y'all should abuse the poo poo out of it, I murdered the last pope cause his spymaster was on board with 160% plot power, new Pope gives me 1500 gold every time and since I just hit the Crusader era and won the Crusade for Jerusalem, I have 4000 piety to spend on getting rich as gently caress and I don't have to spend gold on cardinal elections anymore, my guys always get voted in. I hope making an antipope doesn't end the gravytrain .
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Pakled posted:Byzantines that I don't have the heart to crush, Why did you even bother playing Zoro...
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Baron Porkface posted:Why did you even bother playing Zoro... Yeah for real, as far as you should be concerned your CB is "Old Beefs From Back in the Day." They owe you 500 years of past-due tribute, go collect on that poo poo.
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Purple is the best color.  I am always reluctant to fight against the Byzantines and try to avoid it, because the second Rome is really cool.
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hellsjudge posted:Ah okay, does the College of Cardinals stay the same with an antipope? I, uh, don't know  I haven't played since Old Gods but that's how it worked back then and it sounds like it still applies now.
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toasterwarrior posted:I, uh, don't know That did the trick, reset the College but I suppose I can get them all reinstated, thanks! Now the Papacy is mine bahahaa
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I really like when I have a character with a weak claim on a title, the title is in a regency, and I can't declare war because I need a valid CB.
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Taking over the Papacy seems to have backfired on me, looks like he's not receiving any gold from every bishop in the world so no more rich Pope E: Yep, Pope definitely doesn't get the church taxes from Europe if he's your vassal, as a test I made him independent and his monthly income jumped about 60+ gold. hellsjudge fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Dec 20, 2013 |
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Riso posted:It's not; concubinage was common, and polygamy was not banned until 1945. Well, I meant 'renamed Islam' also in the sense of 'you have a court imam who delivers zakat to the poor and shouts "In'shallah!"' Point taken about historical concubinage, though. For a minimum-effort Sengoku mod, I guess Islam is about as good a religion to nameswap as any!
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Pakled posted:I've had a great game as ruler designed replacement-Karen Zoroastrian Persia. So, based on the advice of this thread and deciding that the Byzantines were the only remotely challenging country I could face, I declared Holy War on them for Damascus, which was the meatiest target available to me that wouldn't make the borders look hideous, at a time when they were involved in no other wars. It was actually really easy to beat them despite them having a slight numerical advantage in army strength according to the ledger. My army numbered about 55k and theirs 60k, but they didn't concentrate their forces as effectively as I did so the biggest battles were along the lines of 30k Persians vs 20k Romans when all the reinforcements had filed in with me on defensive terrain. Overall, the Persian Army killed about 50,000 men with about 15,000 losses themselves before the Byzantines surrendered. I had better generals, as well. I think the war was actually over quicker this way than if I'd attacked during a civil war since destroying their army contributed so much to my war score while they wouldn't have been able to send as much of their army my way if I wasn't their only threat.
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