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Gestalt Intellect posted:Totally gonna use this with the rocket launcher now! Is there a secondary or melee weapon that you can kill yourself with so I can complete this build? The new Stug is the first secondary with suicide capability. Melee weapons in general are their own brand of suicidal.
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What's the trick to getting inventory slots? I'm building my third warframe and just realized I only have two slots available  I'm also running low on weapon slots as well.
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seiferguy posted:What's the trick to getting inventory slots? I'm building my third warframe and just realized I only have two slots available You buy slots with Platinum. Go to Arsenal -> Inventory then hit R2 on the tab you want to expand. Crowbear fucked around with this message at 07:21 on Dec 20, 2013 |
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Yeah, the list in the original post could probably be updated to put slots in a tier above "good" for spending platinum on. Orokin Catalysts/Reactors, Forma, and Sentinels may be rare enough to get that spending platinum on them isn't a bad idea, but slots cannot be gotten in any other way.
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Thanks, guys. Looks like I'll actually be spending money on this game. Thank goodness there's a slight platinum sale going on now.
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Cowcaster posted:Yeah, the list in the original post could probably be updated to put slots in a tier above "good" for spending platinum on. Orokin Catalysts/Reactors, Forma, and Sentinels may be rare enough to get that spending platinum on them isn't a bad idea, but slots cannot be gotten in any other way. You can get them from weapon event rewards, but those arent very common.
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My friend and I (not in goonclan) are about to run Cicero with lapises. Anyone want to join in the other two slots? I don't exactly trust pubbies, so I figured I'd offer here.
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asterioth posted:You can get them from weapon event rewards, but those arent very common. You mostly don't "get" those anyway since you want to keep the unique weapon it came with because you can't buy them again.
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Denzine posted:Ember trip report. Denzine posted:we need a :de: smiley.
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seiferguy posted:Thanks, guys. Looks like I'll actually be spending money on this game. Thank goodness there's a slight platinum sale going on now. If you are on PC i would wait for 50% off drop from logging in. For waepons, its a decent idea to just sell old weapons that you wont use again.
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seiferguy posted:Thanks, guys. Looks like I'll actually be spending money on this game. Thank goodness there's a slight platinum sale going on now.  DO NOT BUY PLATINUM FROM THE WARFRAME SITE RIGHT NOWSteam is having a 50% off sale on platinum, Amazon is having a 66% sale (though someone has said it is a code so no trading it, but if you're using it to buy slots/potatoes/forma it doesn't matter.) The only reason to buy from the Warframe store is if you are buying Prime Access for the unique gear, but that's more platinum than you really need unless you want to get a big jumpstart and pick up a few cheap frames or some skins/scarves/etc. Piell fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Dec 20, 2013 |
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It really shows just how bad they are basic UI design that they didn't call the antitoxins "Antitoxin: Colour". That way they'd be sorted in the Foundry. But no we gotta go "Colour Antitoxin", so they're all over the loving place.
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Oh man, the Penta. It's like my ninja's the world's worst demoman.  It really needs a boost to launching distance since they only arc out about 10 feet on a level surface. It's still a fun weapon though.
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Safety Factor posted:Oh man, the Penta. It's like my ninja's the world's worst demoman. If it could reach that far, it'd make the Ogris obsolete.
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Fuzz posted:Ah, I was really tempted to grab a Sentinel because building one seems inordinately annoying with all the parts/credits needed. Any suggestions on what would be the best one to grab? I'm actually really digging the whole ninja cloak Loki vibe... may not even bother with Ash if Loki stays this viable even to the later game! I'm on PS4 and was basically in your shoes a few weeks ago. I'd recommend Carrier, as others already have, and also note that Loki seems like he'll be super viable for the foreseeable future. Mods make such a loving difference, at first I was dead or dying a lot due to Loki's low amount of health, but then I pumped up the shield and health mods and now I'm at like 315/290 I think. Also been upping my Braton's crit and fire damage (and some other damage I forget, maybe ice) and took down the Jackal basically by myself with some pubbies while I was farming Rhino part blueprints, which is probably not that impressive really, but I liked that he wasn't able to do anything but die. The other thing I like about Loki that I found out from the wikis is that since his abilities don't really have power (they don't directly attack) you can slot him with a lot of mods that have negative affects to balance their positive ones like "Increase ability range; decrease ability power" and then not give a gently caress about the negative. Granted pretty much all of those kind of mods are far from my reach right now, but it does give me something to look forward to near the end. Also for reference I used my initial 150 plat on an Orkin Reactor (for Loki), an Orkin Catalyst (for later, I guess Kunai?), 2 warframe slots, 4 or 8 inventory slots (I think I made it 4 per frame slot), Carrier, and...I don't remember, maybe Forma. Got a bunch more plat recently due to the sale and used it mostly on colors, thinking of maybe buying a frame with it, but I'll probably just save the rest for a rainy day.
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Sentinels are some of the best things to use plat on imo, saves you the resources and they come with potatoes in the sentinel and the gun.
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Fish Noise posted:God drat it DE. Ember isn't as bad as he makes it out to be, the new version of WoF has pillars of flame that will shoot up and they can hit more than one thing at a time.
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Orokin Catalyst Alert (PC) Grineer Mobile defense on Solium, Eris. 1h 45m left as of this post.
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World on Fire is currently single-target, one mob at a time, with no aoe on the fire pillars- they're purely cosmetic. The tick rate is pretty quick so if the mobs are weak enough(or you're amped enough) that they die in one tick, it can cycle targets pretty quickly. Damage falls off pretty fast though, especially now that heavies all have scalaing armor on top of their scaling HP. World on Fire is actually where it was several months ago before Damage 2.0, which is hilarious since they seem to also be doing their best to reverse everything else about Damage 2.0 as well. Such as armor. Denzine fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Dec 20, 2013 |
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asterioth posted:Ember isn't as bad as he makes it out to be, the new version of WoF has pillars of flame that will shoot up and they can hit more than one thing at a time.
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Likely a dumb question, but how do you buy plat through the steam store, since I am told its 50% off.
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Fish Noise posted:That's how it LOOKS like it should work, but do not be deceived by the new effects. WoF is one target, no AOE. It ticks fast and cycles targets fast if you're killing trash, making it look like a lot of poo poo's dying all at once, but get some harder mobs and it's very distinctly single target, no AOE. Pluto's right there, try it. The nontarget eruptions going on around you are meaningless razzle-dazzle, they do nothing. Well poo poo.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Likely a dumb question, but how do you buy plat through the steam store, since I am told its 50% off. If you go to the steam warframe page there's a bunch of packs with stuff including platinum, and those are on sale.
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Okay, holy poo poo. I was just sticking doughballs to peoples' faces when I looked at my ammo counter, tried both spam firing and charge firing, and came to a realization. Stug uses fractional ammo. You can spew something like a dozen or more mini doughballs for the cost of a single bullet, or you can charge up a big doughball for the cost of a single bullet. You know how we've complained that weapons don't have individual ammo counts, and are stuck with universal rifle/sniper/shotgun/pistol ammo counts? Now consider Stug's incredibly bizarre and rear end-backwards fractional ammo on top of that. I think DE has buried the universal ammo counts so deep in their game that they're afraid of going in to mess with it.
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Ammo counts and drops have been so hosed in this game forever. Seeing the Penta have like 600 rounds stock before any mods was a bit alarming. Compare to the Grakata or Soma which just farts through ammo like nobodies business. The drops should be like percentage based. You pick up 10% of your ammo max or something. E: I think DE are trying to hide this bad Warframe from me: 
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Male Man posted:Switch to infinite ammo. Seriously, now. Heavily curtail ammo. Raise melee damage heavily. Raise warframe defences.
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Man, I just had the most  pubbie teaming experience.We were doing the orokin catalyst mobile defense alert. Two of the people start off running and I follow, leaving the last guy to pick up the thing you have to carry. They rush off ahead and make it to one of the defense nodes, except the dude puts it into the other one. No problem, I make my way over there to help him ... and the other two don't do poo poo, sitting on the first defense node. I mean, I've had people AFK on spawn, annoying and rude but whatever. But this was just the height of laziness. After we finished the first part we headed over to the second part where they proceeded to do nothing. I think one of the guys fired off maybe one attack. Then we rushed to extraction and one of the two AFKers died on the way there, and no one revived him. I don't even know. Why not just AFK at spawn instead of AFKing at the wrong defense node? Or not even AFKing, since one of the dudes shot like a thing or two and then just sat around anyway? Not sure why that rubbed me the wrong way, but it did.
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wid posted:If it could reach that far, it'd make the Ogris obsolete. It already makes the Ogris almost completely obsolete. It doesn't have the raw damage, but the lack of charge time means a much higher rate of fire and the ability to arc shots/detonate when you want make it infinitely more useful in pretty much every situation. You can even use it as a panic holdout weapon at point blank without automatically killing yourself by dumb-firing grenades into an enemy like a bean bag gun. In a way, it's kind of disappointing because the Ogris is much more expensive and difficult to make.
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Clocks posted:Man, I just had the most Oh that would rub anyone the wrong way. You just had default pubby experience. Play with Goons, play with reliability.
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InfinityComplex posted:Oh that would rub anyone the wrong way. You just had default pubby experience. Play with Goons, play with reliability. 
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So I played this very briefly when it was brand new, and gave up on it due to the fact that it didn't automatically match you up with people and didn't tell you partying was mandatory, so the very first missions were extremely difficult - enemies took ages to kill and hit like a truck and health/energy restores were few and far between. Anyway, I'm giving this another try and am having a lot more fun - there's just one issue. My starting warframe is the Volt, which was beyond terrible back when I played it before - with energy being so rare, being able to damage (not even kill) a single enemy with a lightning bolt for 1/4th of my energy did not appeal much. Should I shell out 75 plat for an Excalibur, or should I just stick with the Volt? The lightning blast doesn't seem quite as bad as it used to, at least - it seems to kill enemies most of the time and bounces to nearby enemies, but I don't know if it's any good in the longer term.
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Wolpertinger posted:So I played this very briefly when it was brand new, and gave up on it due to the fact that it didn't automatically match you up with people and didn't tell you partying was mandatory, so the very first missions were extremely difficult - enemies took ages to kill and hit like a truck and health/energy restores were few and far between. Anyway, I'm giving this another try and am having a lot more fun - there's just one issue. My starting warframe is the Volt, which was beyond terrible back when I played it before - with energy being so rare, being able to damage (not even kill) a single enemy with a lightning bolt for 1/4th of my energy did not appeal much. Should I shell out 75 plat for an Excalibur, or should I just stick with the Volt? The lightning blast doesn't seem quite as bad as it used to, at least - it seems to kill enemies most of the time and bounces to nearby enemies, but I don't know if it's any good in the longer term. Volt is really good now, but if you really want to get a new frame without farming the blueprints, you can do a lot worse with your plat than spend 75 on the excalibur (comes with slot and potato, and excalibur is farmed on one of the outer planets and so would take a while to get).
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Wolpertinger posted:So I played this very briefly when it was brand new, and gave up on it due to the fact that it didn't automatically match you up with people and didn't tell you partying was mandatory, so the very first missions were extremely difficult - enemies took ages to kill and hit like a truck and health/energy restores were few and far between. Anyway, I'm giving this another try and am having a lot more fun - there's just one issue. My starting warframe is the Volt, which was beyond terrible back when I played it before - with energy being so rare, being able to damage (not even kill) a single enemy with a lightning bolt for 1/4th of my energy did not appeal much. Should I shell out 75 plat for an Excalibur, or should I just stick with the Volt? The lightning blast doesn't seem quite as bad as it used to, at least - it seems to kill enemies most of the time and bounces to nearby enemies, but I don't know if it's any good in the longer term. Excalibur isn't really a top tier frame, though Slash Dash is still an excellent power. However, with the changes to boss drops you can farm up a frame pretty easily. Volt has gotten a pretty good deal out of the Damage 2.0 changes, since electricity now bounces to stuff. Volt should remain pretty good against Corpus for a while, though it will fall off eventually at higher levels.
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Sleepy Owl posted:Isn't Volt kind of hard to get now? A bit. He's now just a drop from survivals that last 20+ minutes. Cowcaster posted:About 80% of the time, a warframe's ultimate power is the one you want to use the most and their first power is just wasting energy that could be used to fuel said warframe's ultimate power. Yeah, pretty much. They seem to be gunning for the DotA model of four abilties that do various things, but they kinda missed the point. First off, the abilities aren't balanced very well and usually don't have much benefit for use (hello Super Jump), but they also fail to take into consideration things like ranged vs. melee, support vs. damage vs. carry. Warframes are increasingly samey because there's so little to define them aside from 1-2 really good powers. Except Rhino who is a god king. Come on, DE, stop loving around and give us Rhino Prime. 
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I miss the old Ember, an untouchable queen of fire. Overheat + World on Fire, laugh all the way to extraction.
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Flipswitch posted:Ammo counts and drops have been so hosed in this game forever. Seeing the Penta have like 600 rounds stock before any mods was a bit alarming. There's no reason why they couldn't just add new ammo types, like "explosives" for the ogris/penta, or "energy" for the ignis/flux rifle, and give them max amounts that are balanced. Or failing that, at least make the explosive guns use sniper ammo instead of rifle ammo.
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Lemon Curdistan posted:There's no reason why they couldn't just add new ammo types, like "explosives" for the ogris/penta, or "energy" for the ignis/flux rifle, and give them max amounts that are balanced. They apply this unevenly. The Miter, a weapon designed to switch between rapid-firing weak normal shots and powerful single charged shots, uses the sniper ammo pool and suffers in part because of it. The Ogris and Penta, which can blow up entire rooms in just a shot or two, use the rifle ammo pool and thus are literally incapable of ever running out of ammo. Basically, :de:
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