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All I know is this stupid bullshit is going to ruin so many peoples' Christmas. God drat it GQ, couldn't you have published this in January when nobody gives a poo poo.
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pacerhimself posted:All I know is this stupid bullshit is going to ruin so many peoples' Christmas. God drat it GQ, couldn't you have published this in January when nobody gives a poo poo. Don't get between a companies desire to make money. Likewise, similar criticism to people saying that A&E should suspend Phil.
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The timing was intentional to maximize the merch-sale bump. In Sarah Palin's book doesn't she talk about buying Todd a handgun for Christmas last year as a response to Newtown? This is the target demographic.
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ErIog posted:
Except Cracker Barrel, who apparently caved when the wingnuts started screaming.
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I am loving losing my mind at the people cannot understand how this incident was not an issue of freedom of speech. Is there any good breakdown that explains freedom speech in relation to this incident that doesn't address the content of Phil's comments? I've been trying to explain this and people just cannot get past the idea that this was a an assault on his conservative views by liberals at A&E. Somehow the decision to put him back in episodes was not motivated at all by the bottom line.
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I doubt that anyone whining about A&E's decision actually cares about free speech, or at least about this guy's free speech in the abstract. It's 100% "we don't like gay people and support anyone who's homophobic." That being said, you could mention right to work laws, or ask them if what they would do if they owned a business and had an employee who kept insulting customers. Free speech doesn't protect a waiter who calls every customer a dumbass from being sent home, right?
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Dec 23, 2013 06:01
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ReidRansom posted:Except Cracker Barrel, who apparently caved when the wingnuts started screaming. Was just gonna post this. 
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Sharkie posted:That being said, you could mention right to work laws, or ask them if what they would do if they owned a business and had an employee who kept insulting customers. Free speech doesn't protect a waiter who calls every customer a dumbass from being sent home, right? Then they can point out the waiter wasn't doing his job (since they could be considered hospitality staff) - make it about unionization instead - by their logic someone trying to organize a collective bargaining structure should be immune from employer reprisal. I would love to see the Tea Party wind up making this possible.
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RetroHelix posted:Was just gonna post this. I thought Cracker Barrel hated gays anyway?
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"We respect all individuals right(s) to express their beliefs" says the store that discriminates against gay people and once issued a memo that employees must demonstrate "normal heterosexual values" or be fired.McDowell posted:Then they can point out the waiter wasn't doing his job (since they could be considered hospitality staff) - make it about unionization instead - by their logic someone trying to organize a collective bargaining structure should be immune from employer reprisal. I would love to see the Tea Party wind up making this possible. Ha, good point.
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RetroHelix posted:Was just gonna post this. "We apologize for offending you."  Also I don't think anyone mentioned how that nationalreview article said: quote:“We believe the next step is to use this as an opportunity for Phil to sit down with gay families in Louisiana and learn about their lives and the values they share,” the spokesman said. I know it was meant as a comparison of how gay people were so astronomically offensive to the christians, much like militant islamists to normal americans  but I couldnt help but draw a humourous unintentional comparison of psychotic right-winters to islamic fundamentalists.
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If you're the kind of person that honestly enjoys eating at cracker barrel you are 100% an rear end in a top hat. Cracker Barrel is a restaurant that specializes in home cooked style meals. There are loving people that enjoy going OUT to a restaurant so they can eat food like they were still at home. Cracker Barrel's menu has a section called "Fancy Fixins" and the first thing on that menu is meatloaf and macaroni and cheese.
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^^^ I've been once for I don't recall what reason, and it was bland and bad. Southern home style cooking can be really good, but Cracker Barrel is not. RetroHelix posted:Was just gonna post this. The whole thing is still hilarious because as I understand it the crazy people are all avoiding Duck Dynasty branded stuff anyhow as it's owned by A&E. ReidRansom fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Dec 23, 2013 |
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The thing that kills me is how so many right wingers around me who are not culturally redneck in any way, not particularly homophobic so far as I can tell and not really Bible thumpers (graduate educated six figure earners) have also latched onto the Duck Dynasty crap (and the Chick-Fil-A crap before it), seemingly not so much in support of what "Phil" had to say but supporting someone on their tribe or team.
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Zwabu posted:The thing that kills me is how so many right wingers around me who are not culturally redneck in any way, not particularly homophobic so far as I can tell and not really Bible thumpers (graduate educated six figure earners) have also latched onto the Duck Dynasty crap (and the Chick-Fil-A crap before it), seemingly not so much in support of what "Phil" had to say but supporting someone on their tribe or team. It's because that's the point. There's no substance to any of this noise. It's simply a dog-whistle meant to drive you into a rage if you identify as a white, Christian patriot. And if you are what you claim to be, surely you disagree with that black, Muslim African in the White House and must do everything in your power to stop him and the countless tentacles of his agenda that threaten to strangle YOUR heritage, culture, ideals, etc. It's designed to feed on fear and anger. It almost has to be nonsense by design.
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Modern Day Hercules posted:If you're the kind of person that honestly enjoys eating at cracker barrel you are 100% an rear end in a top hat. Cracker Barrel is a restaurant that specializes in home cooked style meals. There are loving people that enjoy going OUT to a restaurant so they can eat food like they were still at home. Cracker Barrel's menu has a section called "Fancy Fixins" and the first thing on that menu is meatloaf and macaroni and cheese. In defense of Cracker Barrel, my dad travels on the road, and he gave me three restaurants in regards to eating at places that won't upset your stomach: -McDonalds -Bob Evans -Cracker Barrel He said he's yet to get sick after eating at any of those places (He's been a traveling sales rep for 29 years). So it's a good place to go in the event you don't trust any other place to eat, and you have to travel a lot. I also see nothing wrong with enjoying a "home cooked" style meal, if, IF..you've been on the road for quite a long time/don't have time to prepare a meal for yourself. (their anti-gay policies, and this turnabout are inexcusable though)
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FuzzySkinner posted:In defense of Cracker Barrel, my dad travels on the road, and he gave me three restaurants in regards to eating at places that won't upset your stomach: Similarly, in the past my family and I did a bunch of cross-country drives and when you have a whole family in the car and your stop for the night is Podunk, Nowhere you may end up settling for one just because it's a known quantity. That said, we had no idea that they were such shitheads at the time.
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I'm a pretty liberal dude living in Michigan but that doesn't mean I won't destroy me a country fried steak when given the chance.
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Modern Day Hercules posted:If you're the kind of person that honestly enjoys eating at cracker barrel you are 100% an rear end in a top hat. Cracker Barrel is a restaurant that specializes in home cooked style meals. There are loving people that enjoy going OUT to a restaurant so they can eat food like they were still at home. Cracker Barrel's menu has a section called "Fancy Fixins" and the first thing on that menu is meatloaf and macaroni and cheese. Cracker Barrel's clientele is 99% traveling seniors half-way through their 18 hour drive to see the grandkids. The Cracker Barrel in my city is right next to the interstate where it shares a parking lot with a motel. That's why you have to squeeze past shelves of candies and cheap vintage toys to get to the hostess. It's a tourist trap for old people.
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Modern Day Hercules posted:If you're the kind of person that honestly enjoys eating at cracker barrel you are 100% an rear end in a top hat. Cracker Barrel is a restaurant that specializes in home cooked style meals. There are loving people that enjoy going OUT to a restaurant so they can eat food like they were still at home. Cracker Barrel's menu has a section called "Fancy Fixins" and the first thing on that menu is meatloaf and macaroni and cheese. Cracker Barrel is Southern poverty food without pride, clever innovation, or the secret arts of the redneck mystery cults. Most of their money comes from rocking chairs bought by German tourists.
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I wish there were more figures within churches across the country that would be willing to stand up against people like Phil Robertson and his supporters. It wouldn't certainly shut up quite a few of the bible thumpers to be told they're focusing their efforts on trivial bullshit, and told that Jesus wouldn't be accepting of their behavior.
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FuzzySkinner posted:-McDonalds I'll give him McDonalds. Food in developing countries can lead to GI distress. Hell, if you aren't used to them, foreign spices can cause trouble. But I've never seen a Bob Evans or a Cracker Barrel outside of the US. I travel a lot for a living and the kind of people who like Bob Evans and Cracker Barrel like that kind of white people food. That's cool, that is part of their appeal. But let's not pretend it is anything other than that. I mean, lemme guess, he's the kinda guy who is super-stoked about Fogo de Chao, right? I don't mean that in a bad way, just "Larry the Cable Guy" calling it like it is.
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Hey, NY just got it's first Fogo de Chao like this week. Give us a chance!
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Shbobdb posted:I'll give him McDonalds. Food in developing countries can lead to GI distress. Hell, if you aren't used to them, foreign spices can cause trouble. Actually no. He's been to France, Romania, Germany, England, Mexico, Japan and tried native dishes at every place (with help from his clients/friends of course). I've also ate Indian food with him and his Indian friend (cool guy). He'll be conservative sometimes, other times he'll brag about trying some new dish at a place at a non-chain restaurant. That's just the advice he gave me re: traveling the interstate.
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Where are you seeing the stuff about Cracker Barrel outside the States?
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Listerine posted:I am loving losing my mind at the people cannot understand how this incident was not an issue of freedom of speech. Is there any good breakdown that explains freedom speech in relation to this incident that doesn't address the content of Phil's comments? I've been trying to explain this and people just cannot get past the idea that this was a an assault on his conservative views by liberals at A&E. Somehow the decision to put him back in episodes was not motivated at all by the bottom line. It's not a freedom of speech issue, they're just mad that people who disagree with them are allowed to voice their views publicly and have majority support. They just won't admit it.
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joeburz posted:"We apologize for offending you." You'd think that, at least one of the times like these, someone would have the personal integrity to admit that they don't actually care about having offended someone.
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Who is Steve Deace, and why did he tag this article "Palin" when she isn't referred to once? http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/12/19/duck-dynasty-bible-religion-palin-robertson-column/4124181/
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Shbobdb posted:So, he claims to have eaten at Bob Evans and Cracker Barrels outside of the US? I agree this is a super pressing issue. (He never said 'outside the US', you're sperging).
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Shbobdb posted:So, he claims to have eaten at Bob Evans and Cracker Barrels outside of the US? "my dad travels on the road" means that he is traveling within the US on the road. One of the big problems (particularly before yelp) is finding somewhere to eat, particularly if you're on the move so getting the trots is an even bigger problem.
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Modern Day Hercules posted:If you're the kind of person that honestly enjoys eating at cracker barrel you are 100% an rear end in a top hat. Cracker Barrel is a restaurant that specializes in home cooked style meals. There are loving people that enjoy going OUT to a restaurant so they can eat food like they were still at home. Cracker Barrel's menu has a section called "Fancy Fixins" and the first thing on that menu is meatloaf and macaroni and cheese. And worst of all they use frozen okra. I mean for gently caress's sake have at least a shred of dignity.
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People eat garbage, surprise. But I feel as though any business that gets embroiled in these controversies one way or the other is bound to be full of shitheads. If Cracker Barrel says "man, we didn't mean to offend the shitheads that are a huge part of our customer base" they're giving me some very welcome advance notice that I don't need to be in there. It's as though white conservatives do nothing but purchase housewares and craft materials and eat bland food. I'm frightened by this.
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Shbobdb posted:See his reply This reply? I was helpful and bolded the important part. FuzzySkinner posted:Actually no.
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Meh, I'll admit I didn't bother reading after I got the whole, "He has black friends" defense. But thanks for bolding the buried lede.
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Shbobdb posted:Meh, I'll admit I didn't bother reading after I got the whole, "He has black friends" defense. But thanks for bolding the buried lede. What in the gently caress are you talking about? You're being a giant dipshit and completely misreading everything. Quit while you're behind.
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"Nah man, my daddy totally eats good food too!" He is trying to defend his shitlord dad who eats literal garbage and says that it is the only thing that doesn't make him sick. Have you ever eaten at a Bob Evans or a Cracker Barrel? That poo poo is a culinary holocaust. But no, keep defending the dude who is trying to say those places are the kinds of places that won't get you sick. It's cool.
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Modern Day Hercules posted:If you're the kind of person that honestly enjoys eating at cracker barrel you are 100% an rear end in a top hat. Cracker Barrel is a restaurant that specializes in home cooked style meals. There are loving people that enjoy going OUT to a restaurant so they can eat food like they were still at home. Cracker Barrel's menu has a section called "Fancy Fixins" and the first thing on that menu is meatloaf and macaroni and cheese. I was visiting some college friends and we went to cracker barrel spontaneously. Sorry that I'm an rear end in a top hat I guess Shbobdb posted:But no, keep defending the dude who is trying to say those places are the kinds of places that won't get you sick. It's cool. Business Gorillas fucked around with this message at 11:25 on Dec 23, 2013 |
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I'm not siding with Shbobdb or anything because he's being kind of an rear end in a top hat about it, but you can definitely get sick from eating McDonald's? Maybe it's just because I live in godless Portland but due to the availability of so many other, better options I only eat at fast food chains anywhere between weeks and months apart. I noticed if I go too long my body will actively reject that poo poo, and I can actually become somewhat nauseous when eating it. Because, you know, I want to perpetuate another classic D&D food detail 
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