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It is my firm belief that the general course of Ray's life, if not the individual events, goes exactly as Ray wills it. Ray is a Fortunate Being.
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Pakled posted:Ray is a Fortunate Being. Ray is also a straight up sexual being.
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Dec 22, 2013 07:50
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Tupperwarez posted:I choose to see that comic as what each character thinks their future will be like. It makes sense to me that way. Only Ray would envision a future where he gets bionic ears. Only Beef would envision a future where Molly leaves him and he dies horribly. Philippe just wants to be five. Even Teodor is self-aware of his tendency to do well for a little while, then have everything slip through his fingers. Not that the comic matters since not enough things in the 2008 and 2012 panels appears to have happened to anyone, aside from maybe Philippe giving himself a hug or posing as an Olympic athlete for his newspaper.
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Dec 22, 2013 07:50
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I took it to mean that Molly left him and at that point even being dead would be irrelevant, he'd just be nothing at all.
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Dec 22, 2013 11:20
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I took it to mean that he left turning into Johnny Cash for too late in life.
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Dec 22, 2013 19:23
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It would be funny if he actually did a Beef Turns Into Johnny Cash arc because it would mean Teodor and Cornelius would be the only adult characters without an arc where they become a musician. Teodor will never be in a band, indeed.
grading essays nude fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Dec 22, 2013 |
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Dec 22, 2013 22:41
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Cornelius did mention once playing odd time signatures in a shower with other people once, or something.
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Dec 23, 2013 03:18
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ElTipejoLoco posted:I always thought that Roastbeef's 2031 and 2039 panels implied taking medicine or drugs that were either followed by or caused a sex change. It might have been because I thought An Afternoon with Molly Sanders was set in the future. Also, maybe I misunderstood the white X over the black background meaning something different than Teodor's black over white. Why would your first thought be that it was a sex change as opposed to molly?
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Dec 23, 2013 06:01
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Why would your first thought be that it was a sex change as opposed to molly?
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Dec 23, 2013 06:20
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satan!!! posted:Cornelius did mention once playing odd time signatures in a shower with other people once, or something. Plus he's got that trumpet. Childhood drum doesn't count. Everyone got a childhood drum.
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Dec 23, 2013 06:28
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satan!!! posted:Cornelius did mention once playing odd time signatures in a shower with other people once, or something.  Experimental bands formed in college, that is, not bands formed in experimental college. Although that might be kind of neat, too.
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Dec 23, 2013 23:25
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ElTipejoLoco posted:No real good reason, really. I guess I just thought that because Ray, Teodor, and Philippe's timelines only feature them (or their graves), so my head reasoned that Roast Beef's only featured him? Personally, I never guessed sex change, but it did take me up until a few months ago to recognize that it was Molly, and that Beef did not grow a pony-tail (after he started balding, yes I know, shhh…) It was the whole "each timeline features that specific character" thing. If he did have a sex change, though, at least he won't have to change his legal name.
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Dec 24, 2013 06:58
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It is hell of bizarre that "sex change" was the first thing you thought of, frankly.
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Dec 24, 2013 15:10
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ElTipejoLoco posted:No real good reason, really. I guess I just thought that because Ray, Teodor, and Philippe's timelines only feature them (or their graves), so my head reasoned that Roast Beef's only featured him? I believe at the time of that strip Beef was the only one involved in a serious long-term relationship with a woman, therefore it would only make sense that his imagined future involved her leaving him (because he is the guy that has depression). So yeah, not really seeing the "Beef sex change" thing. Happy Hippo posted:It is hell of bizarre that "sex change" was the first thing you thought of, frankly. This too. 
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Dec 24, 2013 15:31
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Happy Hippo posted:It is hell of bizarre that "sex change" was the first thing you thought of, frankly. I dunno, I can see Beef being exactly the kinda dude whose irrational worries about the future include the possibility of not being a dude any more.
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Dec 24, 2013 16:36
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Happy Hippo posted:It is hell of bizarre that "sex change" was the first thing you thought of, frankly. It's some Perry Bible Fellowship poo poo in these posts.
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Penis Ouija posted:I dunno, I can see Beef being exactly the kinda dude whose irrational worries about the future include the possibility of not being a dude any more. It seems like that would be a pretty drat simple fate to avoid.
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SALT CURES HAM posted:It seems like that would be a pretty drat simple fate to avoid. But then, Beef worries himself stupid about most every kind of thing, so. v  v
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Dec 24, 2013 23:25
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That's a lot of steps to take to reconcile one dude's bad reading of a strip that made sense to everyone else.
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Dec 25, 2013 02:50
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I always considered that panel to the Molly because it makes sense for Roast Beef, of all people, to have a panel focusing on another person's reaction to him.
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Dec 25, 2013 03:05
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Ray dies: Life over. Teodor dies: Life over. Molly leaves Beef: life over. It's not that hard people. 
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Dec 25, 2013 03:13
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Pakled posted:I always considered that panel to the Molly because it makes sense for Roast Beef, of all people, to have a panel focusing on another person's reaction to him. This, plus, you know...the character in that panel looks like Molly.
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Dec 25, 2013 03:46
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We are all skipping the fact that he also thought that the strip where beef gets to pretend to be a white trash husband was set in the future.
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Dec 25, 2013 04:02
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WoodrowSkillson posted:We are all skipping the fact that he also thought that the strip where beef gets to pretend to be a white trash husband was set in the future. I haven't reread this strip since this weird discussion began, but I remember that being what I got out of it. Beef did one of his Things where he got to pretend to be white trash. I got the Dark Horse books for Christmas and they're amazing. I didn't think I'd ever get them, because somehow I filed them away in my head as out-of-print and lost to Onstad's Depression, so I was really surprised to see them beneath the wrapping paper. I love the blurbs under each strip in the Ugliest Guitar book. They're like extra alt-text. I have a few of the paperback collections, but those aren't nearly as nice and feel like they're going to fall apart if I read them too heavily.
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Dec 25, 2013 04:12
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moot the hopple posted:That's a lot of steps to take to reconcile one dude's bad reading of a strip that made sense to everyone else. Not reconciling it, so much as just commenting that I could see Beef doing that, even if it's not even close to what I got from the strip.
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Dec 25, 2013 14:49
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Phy posted:I poled my car the other day and all I could think of was Ray's Poem Whenever you are made to compose a poem against your will for a class in high school or university or wherever, you should try to work in water-clad nymphs somehow.
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Dec 26, 2013 02:47
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I'm not sure if he's going to be making more Achewood books, but I've always thought that "Apocalypse and Food, Escalade and Disaster" merits using as a title, probably on the later comics when poo poo starts breaking down.
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Dec 26, 2013 02:54
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Penguissimo posted:This, plus, you know...the character in that panel looks like Molly. All the cats look the same, save for a few small changes. That panel could have been clearer if it had both Beef AND Molly in it, with her leaving. (Beef in the foreground, Molly in silhouette with suitcases in the doorway in the background, etc.) I'm not saying that's the best way to do it (since it might have more impact that a panel in Beef's timeline is someone other than himself), but it's not like we have color/texture cues to work with in Achewood. If Molly had black hair in that panel (instead of gray, because: old), this wouldn't even be nearly as confusing.
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Dodgeball posted:All the cats look the same, save for a few small changes. That panel could have been clearer if it had both Beef AND Molly in it, with her leaving. (Beef in the foreground, Molly in silhouette with suitcases in the doorway in the background, etc.) I'm not saying that's the best way to do it (since it might have more impact that a panel in Beef's timeline is someone other than himself), but it's not like we have color/texture cues to work with in Achewood. If Molly had black hair in that panel (instead of gray, because: old), this wouldn't even be nearly as confusing. There are 2 female characters in achewood. 1 is Molly, the other is Ray's mom. There is no reason to assume anything other then that it is Molly. Goons never cease to amaze me.
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Okay this is all stupid. Can we talk about the time Ray had to walk home from Mexico, instead?
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Dec 26, 2013 19:49
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WoodrowSkillson posted:There are 2 female characters in achewood. 1 is Molly, the other is Ray's mom. There is no reason to assume anything other then that it is Molly. You're obnoxious. I just gave you two legitimate reasons. Molly is missing any standard gender identifiers in that panel. I see an Onstad cat in a series of timelines that have been shown to have, or be about, one character. The only character in these two strips to have another character in his timeline is Teodor (Philippe is in his timeline on the previous page). Even still, Teodor was in his own timeline image for that panel. What I'm saying is, people being confused about Beef's timeline is less of a stretch than the elastic in yo momma's underwear.
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Dodgeball posted:What I'm saying is, people being confused about Beef's timeline is less of a stretch than the elastic in yo momma's underwear. Looks like someone thinks he can hang with the dirtiest dudes in town.
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Dec 26, 2013 19:56
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WoodrowSkillson posted:There are 2 female characters in achewood. 1 is Molly, the other is Ray's mom. There is no reason to assume anything other then that it is Molly. It could have been Polly 
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Dec 27, 2013 02:48
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That's not a female character, Roast Beef just decided to grow a ponytail around the same time he got gynecomastia.
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Dec 27, 2013 02:55
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Johnny Aztec posted:Ray had to walk home from Mexico Because Mexican people take too long gettin' in and out of cars, right!?! 
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Dec 27, 2013 05:49
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BitterAvatar posted:Looks like someone thinks he can hang with the dirtiest dudes in town. 
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Dec 27, 2013 08:12
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No comic this week.
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Dec 27, 2013 12:54
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It begins.
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Lurdiak posted:Even if he stays five, everything else still moves on. I like to think he's got some kind of "Jeffty is Five" situation going on, where for some inexplicable reason his TV shows new episodes of shows that were cancelled years ago, that sort of thing.
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MondayHotDog posted:It begins. 
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