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Rarity posted:Charles Dance, you beautiful man See instead of Britains Got Talent, or The Voice, why can't we have an hour of Charles Dance sitting reading books for us on a Saturday nights? And when Charles is busy filming Game of Thrones we could get Mark Gatiss in to read us some horror stories, or Tom Hiddleston, Rory Kinnear, Idris Elba or other people with marvellous voices to read us a selection of literature in order to educate, inform and entertain.
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Dec 26, 2013 23:34
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Benedict Cumberbatch reading monologues from Roald Dahl. Wait, is this tumblr?
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Dec 26, 2013 23:41
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Its not tumblr until someone says "check your privilege".
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Dec 26, 2013 23:44
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Irisi posted:See instead of Britains Got Talent, or The Voice, why can't we have an hour of Charles Dance sitting reading books for us on a Saturday nights? Dave is actually doing an adult Jackanory.
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Dec 26, 2013 23:47
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Junkenstein posted:Dave is actually doing an adult Jackanory. Ooh, interesting. Just looked it up, and the readers are jolly good. Rebecca Front, Jessica Hynes and Stephen Mangan! Thanks for the head-ip!
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Dec 27, 2013 00:01
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Dec 27, 2013 05:57
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NO. But actually yes. I've derailed this thread enough. It's not the place for the debate I started though I still think it's a discussion worth considering. I honestly don't think the underlying point I was making was particularly controversial. edit: Strom Cuzewon posted:BBT vs IT Crowd in a nutshell: What this guy says ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Dec 27, 2013 |
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Dec 27, 2013 06:00
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ThomasPaine posted:edit: Except he's just pointing out that they are two different jokes, one isnt a better premise for a joke than the other. Why cant a cool attractive blond play d&d and get it wrong, its basically just a fish out of water scenario that lots of comedies use? i don't see a problem. You could do the same with both situations though. BBT shows nerds as guys with nice jobs and girlfriends, it crowd shows them being stuck in a basement in what amounts to a dingy mancave and they don't have any relationships. See how you can try and look at tiny reasons why one is more "worthy" than the other but its pointless they are just two different comedies. It seems you just want to see nerds shown in a very particular way which is bizarre and if a show deviates from that path its offensive somehow? Junkenstein posted:Dave is actually doing an adult Jackanory. Crackanory is alright but its one about justin bieber was a bit crap, it would help if they got some people with more distinctive voices on, they dont have to be famous but i guess it helps, something like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxrWuE5qC5c Ponce de Le0n fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Dec 27, 2013 |
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Dec 27, 2013 07:53
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Beeb will shoe horn Dr Who into any headline even when Mrs. Brown's Boys actually had the highest average figures: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-25518352
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Dec 27, 2013 12:10
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The fact that Mrs Brown's Boys is the most watched show is incredibly embarrassing, so I think they chose correctly there.
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Dec 27, 2013 12:13
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stevey666 posted:The fact that Mrs Brown's Boys is the most watched show is incredibly embarrassing, so I think they chose correctly there. I happen to think Dr. Who is the worst show on TV.
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Dec 27, 2013 12:18
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It is joint-worst with everything else.
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Dec 27, 2013 12:19
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It just has a very wide quality variance. The good episodes are good, if a little shmaltzy at points. The bad episodes (i'm looking directly at you, love & monsters) are loving abysmal and make me wonder if any kind of quality control happens at all.
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Dec 27, 2013 13:08
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Mr. Squishy posted:It is joint-worst with everything else. No. It is worstest. Purely down to the moronic fan base.
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Dec 27, 2013 13:09
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Doctor Who is objectively the greatest thing mankind has ever produced. It ranks higher than cheesy chips and Nelson Mandela.
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Dec 27, 2013 13:25
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Its a tough contest but surely Mrs Brown's Boys must be worse. Although at least it doesn't employ cheap timelord stereotybla bla bla
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Dec 27, 2013 13:37
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Alot of Dr. Who is poo poo but not all of it. Something perversely enjoyable about a programme that started off hammy-as-gently caress fifty years ago and is still just as hammy. I only catch the odd episode, got friends who are huge nerds about it.
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Dec 27, 2013 16:03
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Had gently caress all else to watch, so watched the Outnumbered christmas special. It's really weird now that the "kids" are clearly 15-16 now, yet still acting a good few years younger. It's less a family sitcom now and closer to a fairly harrowing documentary.
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Dec 27, 2013 16:04
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My Family still about? I always enjoyed that and felt that Outnumbered was the spiritual prequel to it.
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Dec 27, 2013 16:09
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Ponce de Le0n posted:Except he's just pointing out that they are two different jokes, one isnt a better premise for a joke than the other. Why cant a cool attractive blond play d&d and get it wrong, its basically just a fish out of water scenario that lots of comedies use? i don't see a problem. The difference being that the IT crowd has an underlying recognition that it is playing on flawed stereotypes (while mocking them) while TBBT seems to imply that the stereotypes it utilises represent an actual reality. I don't want to see anyone shown in a particular way, I just don't like group stereotypes wherever they are applied. In any case, enough derail for all of out sakes.
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Dec 27, 2013 18:55
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ThomasPaine posted:TBBT seems to imply that the stereotypes it utilises represent an actual reality. Yeah, most nerds are friendless losers who live in their parents' basements smoking weed all day until their 40s when they start collecting disability checks and become an low income apartment complex's resident weirdo. The guys in the BBT are all successful dudes with a large circle of friends and, depending on the season, romantic entanglements. Completely unrealistic.
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Dec 27, 2013 19:06
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Blunkett thinks that the reason people think politicians are knobs is because of HIGNFY and co. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...on-9027372.html
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Dec 27, 2013 19:08
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ThomasPaine posted:The difference being that the IT crowd has an underlying recognition that it is playing on flawed stereotypes (while mocking them) while TBBT seems to imply that the stereotypes it utilises represent an actual reality. I don't want to see anyone shown in a particular way, I just don't like group stereotypes wherever they are applied. In any case, enough derail for all of out sakes. I think you are just choosing to see things that aren't really there at this point. WastedJoker posted:No. It is worstest. Purely down to the moronic fan base. Its real bad also because for a show about an alien that can go anywhere and to any time its incredibly unimaginative and hackneyed.
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Dec 27, 2013 19:23
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VogeGandire posted:Had gently caress all else to watch, so watched the Outnumbered christmas special. Funny thing I found out about Outnumbered recently, is that one of the kids is the son of Ben Dover (possibly  , nothing wrong with the article, but it's a Wikipedia page for a low rent pornstar, whose name I'm sure you all remember from the Televison X 10minute preview...)
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Dec 27, 2013 20:16
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Irish Joe posted:Yeah, most nerds are friendless losers who live in their parents' basements smoking weed all day until their 40s when they start collecting disability checks and become an low income apartment complex's resident weirdo. The guys in the BBT are all successful dudes with a large circle of friends and, depending on the season, romantic entanglements. Completely unrealistic. But they're still by and large socially incompetent eccentrics.
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Dec 27, 2013 20:36
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Ratjaculation posted:Blunkett thinks that the reason people think politicians are knobs is because of HIGNFY and co. I don't think I've ever seen a bigger irony cumshot on a website in my entire fuckin' life than that.
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Dec 27, 2013 20:43
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Mickolution posted:Funny thing I found out about Outnumbered recently, is that one of the kids is the son of Ben Dover (possibly a child named tyger, the song of a porn star and a nude model must've had fun growing up
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Dec 27, 2013 20:54
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Ratjaculation posted:Blunkett thinks that the reason people think politicians are knobs is because of HIGNFY and co. Yes, have them held to tighter libel laws. Maybe we should consult Ian Hislop how that goes. I'm pretty sure Ian Hislop is qualified as a defamation lawyer based on how long he's spent in court regarding libel. But really, it's just yet another politician trying to take what few teeth satire still has. Mickolution posted:Funny thing I found out about Outnumbered recently, is that one of the kids is the son of Ben Dover (possibly Jesus Christ, the resemblance is uncanny now someone has pointed it out.
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Dec 27, 2013 21:02
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ThomasPaine posted:The difference being that the IT crowd has an underlying recognition that it is playing on flawed stereotypes (while mocking them) while TBBT seems to imply that the stereotypes it utilises represent an actual reality. I don't want to see anyone shown in a particular way, I just don't like group stereotypes wherever they are applied. In any case, enough derail for all of out sakes. I really hate nerd stereotypes that make it seem like nerds are all socially inept and friendless, and furthermore *writes socially inept rant on internet about how nerds face discrimination just like black people and women; becomes hated by everybody*
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Dec 27, 2013 22:00
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ThomasPaine posted:But they're still by and large socially incompetent eccentrics. Eccentricity isn't a crime and you're only a 'victim' of nerd discrimination if you choose to be one.
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Dec 27, 2013 22:17
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:I really hate nerd stereotypes that make it seem like nerds are all socially inept and friendless, and furthermore *writes socially inept rant on internet about how nerds face discrimination just like black people and women; becomes hated by everybody* Way to completely exaggerate my point. I don't think they face discrimination as such, only that a negative (or at least cartoonish) stereotype continues to exist and stems from a common principle of othering. It's obviously not the same as racism/sexism, but it is built on vaguely similar foundations of externally imposed group stereotyping. Irish Joe posted:Eccentricity isn't a crime and you're only a 'victim' of nerd discrimination if you choose to be one. Of course it's not. I didn't say it was. My point was that shows like TBBT reflect a wider perception that science/tech people, by virtue of their being science/tech people, must fulfil a certain stereotype (e.g. eccentricity). Some may well do, but the issue is that because of group association it is assumed that they must. To clarify, the same issue works both ways and positive group identity is equally frustrating. If some other show constantly reinforced the idea that 'all Canadians are generous' purely by virtue of their being Canadian, I would make the exact same argument. Individuals are individuals. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Dec 28, 2013 |
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Dec 28, 2013 00:22
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I've only seen adverts for Mrs Browns Boys, but I assume it is as crap as it looks? If the adverts are anything to go by, how the gently caress is it so popular? I am confused.
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Dec 28, 2013 00:53
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BBT isn't poo poo because of how it depicts geeks (for the most part it's moderately accurate) it's that most of the jokes aren't funny. They've taken this semi realistic stereotype doing regular things (like playing D&D/Warhammer/WoW) and added a laugh track and outsiders to the stereotype to take the piss out of it. The IT crowd on the other hand took aspects of the sterotype and used them to crank the wacky up to 11. One show is laughing at "geek", the other is using "geek" as a spingboard for ridiculous funny situations in the same way that vicars were used in Father Ted.
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Dec 28, 2013 00:57
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Fire_Monkey posted:I've only seen adverts for Mrs Browns Boys, but I assume it is as crap as it looks? This year has been a poo poo year for TV as the BBC is half bankrupt now.
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Dec 28, 2013 00:59
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It panders to a level of sitcom writing I really, really hoped we'd moved past. Unfortunately they're Irish, which means a lot of the laughs are shored up by a semi-racist 'oh those wacky Irish' sentiment. It appeals mostly to the target audience of mid 1990s ITV. If you removed the Irish accents, you'd basically have Bread, if anyone remembers that.
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Dec 28, 2013 01:01
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Kin posted:BBT isn't poo poo because of how it depicts geeks (for the most part it's moderately accurate) it's that most of the jokes aren't funny. While I'd dispute the very first point (how can a group stereotype ever be accurate?) I pretty much agree with this. It's why the IT crowd will forever be 100x better than TBBT. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Dec 28, 2013 |
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Dec 28, 2013 01:13
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The American remake of The IT Crowd was actually really loving good and it's a shame they never took it past the pilot phrase so we could see the concept reach its full potential.
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Dec 28, 2013 01:17
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Fire_Monkey posted:I've only seen adverts for Mrs Browns Boys, but I assume it is as crap as it looks? "It's not for you. They didn't make it for you." This is the mantra I try to tell myself every time a comedy like Mrs Brown's Boys starts to cause a creeping confused anger in me.
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PriorMarcus posted:The American remake of The IT Crowd was actually really loving good and it's a shame they never took it past the pilot phrase so we could see the concept reach its full potential. Yeah, it could've been the next Office: an American remake that surpasses the original British series in every way.
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