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Prison Warden posted:The other is Brinnie, she's a Valkyrie.
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I went and googled it and apparently brinnie is Brynhildr a Valkyrie sent to earth for going against Odin 's wishes. Tom also says that Valkyries "perform a similar function to psychopomps but are in a related field" or something like that. There's a thread about it linked in the citations of the GKC wiki I found.
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Dec 26, 2013 06:18
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Filthy Haiku posted:What wait? When? It was never covered in the comic - the plot line's been effectively discarded, and what people are quoting is what Tom has said in Q&A's since.
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Dec 26, 2013 06:24
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Whaddya mean discarded, do you have more info?
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Dec 26, 2013 06:26
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Pretty sure it hasn't been discarded, it's just one of the many hanging plot threads that Tom can tug on one of these days. The only thing I've ever heard mentioned as being a possible plot element that was tossed out was something to do with the glowing pictures on page 23.
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Dec 26, 2013 07:11
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Unless Brinnie taught the Donlans how to make the ZAM™ Beacon (or left a crate full of them) before going back to her home planet, it's a safe bet she - or someone related to her - will show up eventually.
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Dec 26, 2013 07:31
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Brinnie was relevant as recently as Microsat 5, so she's probably not out of the story yet. And she was outed when Tom had her vanish into a valknut. One of the few occasions when a "Mystery solved" page actually solved a mystery, albeit only for folks who knew about a somewhat obscure Norse symbol.
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Dec 26, 2013 07:50
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Captain Oblivious posted:Kat is both. Remember that Robot made a big deal out of her ability to activate as well as deactivate the Old Machines. Actually there's a question. What do the Robots think of Annie? Is she important or just "and Annie was there too"?
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Dec 26, 2013 12:33
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Splicer posted:Actually there's a question. What do the Robots think of Annie? Is she important or just "and Annie was there too"? She's the Prophet's mother, and the Creator's friend. Pretty important.
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Dec 26, 2013 14:46
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Cat Mattress posted:She's the Prophet's mother, and the Creator's friend. Pretty important. Especially important given that the robots seem to be trying to become more human - the Prophet having a human mother could be a pretty big deal.
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Dec 26, 2013 14:57
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Splicer posted:I don't know, Human religions are full of people who are only important because they hung around the godlike big players, but are still considered super important because of that. Paz could easily become St Paz or Paz the Disciple. On the other hand, the robots are demonstrably exceedingly different from humans in how they view many things. See their lack of giving a poo poo about the lack of reward they receive for their efforts, for example. There's also the fact that, despite Annie being there with Kat pretty much all the time, the robots have remarked on her exactly not at all and don't seem to care about her at all. Anyhow, there's a reason why I include "for now". There basically isn't much use in speculating on how they see Paz because we don't even have so much as something that can be construed as evidence if you squint. We have nothing. Wait and see  ionicism posted:Especially important given that the robots seem to be trying to become more human - the Prophet having a human mother could be a pretty big deal. I'm not sure "trying to become more human" is accurate. Trying to become more truly alive seems to be the idea, and that is an important difference. Captain Oblivious fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Dec 26, 2013 |
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Dec 26, 2013 17:13
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Captain Oblivious posted:I'm not sure "trying to become more human" is accurate. Trying to become more truly alive seems to be the idea, and that is an important difference. More human in the Star Trek sense then?
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Dec 26, 2013 17:34
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Tangentially related to the Robot Jesus discussion, what about the fact that Kat is trying to grow a robot that looks like a bird? The Tic-Tocs grow and look like birds, and we already know that the robots think they were created by a god or angel. If Kat really manages to make a robo-bird, she's going to hit all the notes to be considered a Divine Creator, and then there's really going to be trouble. Or parties. You never know, in Gunnerkrigg. Also maybe Coyote's got the wrong idea and the Court isn't trying to become god, it's trying to make gods?
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Captain Oblivious posted:I'm not sure "trying to become more human" is accurate. Trying to become more truly alive seems to be the idea, and that is an important difference. Yeah, on second thought "human" doesn't seem quite right. It does seem like they're already alive, though. They can die, even if it's a very electronic sort of death, and they're definitely animate in a way that's far beyond automation. It's more like they're trying to become organic, with everything that entails, including a "proper death."
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Dec 26, 2013 18:27
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Hexlotl posted:
What's the difference
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Dec 26, 2013 19:17
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Don't forget that Robot Jesus went into the forest and came back with an organic part . A combination of the new spirituality and the creation by the court could lead to a future where robots are free to cross between both worlds. With two humans as mediums, they might be able to visit the forest someday.
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Prison Warden posted:More human in the Star Trek sense then? Data was such a huge racist.
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The robots are going to get weird about this religion thing, aren't they?
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paragon1 posted:The robots are going to get weird about this religion thing, aren't they? Going to get weird? I think they crossed over the border into weird territory back in <edit>Got my chapters mixed up, which is the one where Kat reactivates the old robot? Oneiros fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Dec 26, 2013 |
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Dec 26, 2013 22:38
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Oneiros posted:Got my chapters mixed up, which is the one where Kat reactivates the old robot? Give and Take
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Dec 26, 2013 22:52
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Give and Take. e:f,b Robot gets creepier every time, I swear.
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He used to be so cute when he was worried about his mommy and zipping around in a little mouse body.
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Dec 26, 2013 23:04
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BobTheJanitor posted:Pretty sure it hasn't been discarded, it's just one of the many hanging plot threads that Tom can tug on one of these days. The only thing I've ever heard mentioned as being a possible plot element that was tossed out was something to do with the glowing pictures on page 23. So this link here made me do the Gunnerkrigg thing where you get distracted and end up reading 5 whole chapters before you come to your senses. I realized something though and that's that even though Tom's art style in the early chapters is very primitive (to say the least), stylistically its very consistent with the more recent chapters. He is experimenting with oddly shaped panels and perspective even at the very start of this comic, before his drawing skills could really match it. To me this proves that while drawing is a soft skill that Tom dramatically improved on, the artistry that makes this comic so good was always there. I guess he just has some sort of natural talent. This comic is so loving good. paragon1 posted:The robots are going to get weird about this religion thing, aren't they? Religion is pretty weird in general, so far the robots are acting pretty benign though, I don't think they could be considered harmful.
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Jhordhynne posted:Don't forget that Robot Jesus went into the forest and came back with an organic part . A combination of the new spirituality and the creation by the court could lead to a future where robots are free to cross between both worlds. With two humans as mediums, they might be able to visit the forest someday. Makes me wonder whether - or, more likely, in what way - coyote tampered with Robot. A robot named Robot hits some nice mythic notes too, of course; like a man named Adam, or at least the dude being symbolic of his kind. Shadow2's name takes on significance in light of that.
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I don't think this is Coyotes doing. Remember that the other robots implied that Robot being a religious preacher is what got him deactivated and put in storage where Annie found him in the first place.
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Vorpal Cat posted:This comic really does have the greatest faces. Sorry, no, that is Cucumber Quest
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Dec 27, 2013 04:03
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Fried Chicken posted:Sorry, no, that is Cucumber Quest Ehhhhhhh. For a less rediculous example, try these two pages.
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Onean posted:Ehhhhhhh. I think that, if they could, Paranatural, Gunnerkrigg Court, and Cucumber Quest would all be friends and tell each other that they all had some pretty good faces.
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Nicolae Carpathia posted:I think that, if they could, Paranatural, Gunnerkrigg Court, and Cucumber Quest would all be friends and tell each other that they all had some pretty good faces. 
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"His name is Robert Paulson"
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Dec 27, 2013 09:03
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What the poo poo, Robot, that is super creepy.
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GENUINE CAT HERDER posted:"His name is Robert Paulson" Robot and the narrator are the same person!
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Dec 27, 2013 09:06
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Have I mentioned that Robot's cult of Kat is incredibly worrying. Because every time it comes up it becomes increasingly alarming. (good way to end a nice chapter, with a twist of dread from this)
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Dec 27, 2013 09:06
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Okay, someone needs to rein in Robot. Even Secret Servicebot is in on the cult. This goes all the way up, folks.
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Dec 27, 2013 09:07
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Here lies Wingy. Its death was much like its life: debatable.
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Man, Kat should really stop being so flippant about the way the robots treat her, and also the way she treats the robots. She didn't really give a second thought to creating and blowing up the "living" robot, only that it was weeks of wasted work, and she always brushes off their adulation like it's a little embarrassing. Of course, judging by Zimmy, there's a lot of legitimacy to their worship that hasn't emerged yet.
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 Man, I guess that's one way to end a chapter. Every time I think Robot is on a fairly even keel after all he finds a way to make me doubt it.
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