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Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer

Shbobdb posted:

Dude, it is a well known fact that if Stephen hawking had grown up in a country like England he would have been denied care and that would have deprived the world of his genius.
That is an excellent point, and suddenly I wonder how many other breakthroughs he either have, or could have, lost because of such denial of care and loss of life.

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Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


FuzzySkinner posted:

This.

He also may or may not have helped a homosexual roman soldier and his partner. Apparently called the Roman Soldier a "man of great faith" if memory serves correctly.

I'm not a great bible guy; could you give me the chapter and verse? I'd like to look at it.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

Grand Prize Winner posted:

I'm not a great bible guy; could you give me the chapter and verse? I'd like to look at it.

Matt 8:5-13 and Luke 7:1-10.

There's some debate about translation. It could be about a gay couple, or it could be about a "soldier and his "slave".

Knowing Jesus' penchant for dealing with hated/corrupt Tax collectors (Zacchaeus), Prostitutes (Mary Magdalene), and other people that were generally rejected by hardcore members of the Jewish faith at the time, I like to believe it's the former.

Jesus would be HATED by Republicans. He was for Wealth Distribution (Loaves and Fishes), and Free Healthcare (Healing the sick who were generally poor) after all ;).

Beowulfs_Ghost
Nov 6, 2009

Dr. Faustus posted:

That is an excellent point, and suddenly I wonder how many other breakthroughs he either have, or could have, lost because of such denial of care and loss of life.

Investor's Business Daily had an excellent editorial about how Hawking would have surely died if he lived in some socialist hell hole like the UK. I can't seem to find it on their site now?

Kilty Monroe
Dec 27, 2006

Upon the frozen fields of arctic Strana Mechty, the Ghost Dads lie in wait, preparing to ambush their prey with their zippin' and zoppin' and ziggy-zoop-boppin'.

Beowulfs_Ghost posted:

Investor's Business Daily had an excellent editorial about how Hawking would have surely died if he lived in some socialist hell hole like the UK. I can't seem to find it on their site now?

It's since been corrected.

edit: this was the article that originally said that, though

Kilty Monroe fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Dec 25, 2013

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer
Sorry, I was a little misleading by accident:

I meant to say, "That is an excellent point, and suddenly I wonder how many other breakthroughs WE either have, or could have, lost because of such denial of care and loss of life."

I didn't mean to make the comment specific to Dr. Hawking.

Rexicon1
Oct 9, 2007

A Shameful Path Led You Here

Dr. Faustus posted:

Sorry, I was a little misleading by accident:

I meant to say, "That is an excellent point, and suddenly I wonder how many other breakthroughs WE either have, or could have, lost because of such denial of care and loss of life."

I didn't mean to make the comment specific to Dr. Hawking.

Haven't you been reading the thread? It doesn't loving matter what you say as long as it's from the heart*!



*only if your heart is white, Christian and rich of course

McAlister
Nov 3, 2002

by exmarx

beatlegs posted:

she's been enabled by the media, which is who I blame because without them there to fluff her up she'd be utterly irrelevent.

She rose to the governorship of Alaska without being a darling of conservomedia through a lot of backstabbing and betrayal combined with effective use of her charisma and blatant corruption ( like effectively giving the governors plane to a campaign contributor for a retardedly low price after campaigning against government excess then spending more money than the plane cost to travel around her state while doing her job ).

Don't rob her of agency. She knows what she is doing as well as any of them. Nobody gives rush a pass for being "enabled" by the adulation and money thrown at him.

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




FuzzySkinner posted:

Matt 8:5-13 and Luke 7:1-10.

There's some debate about translation. It could be about a gay couple, or it could be about a "soldier and his "slave".

Knowing Jesus' penchant for dealing with hated/corrupt Tax collectors (Zacchaeus), Prostitutes (Mary Magdalene), and other people that were generally rejected by hardcore members of the Jewish faith at the time, I like to believe it's the former.

Jesus would be HATED by Republicans. He was for Wealth Distribution (Loaves and Fishes), and Free Healthcare (Healing the sick who were generally poor) after all ;).

No, they would love Jesus. Just not the one from the bible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK7gI5lMB7M

Acquilae
May 15, 2013

Dr. Faustus posted:

quote:

Yeah but a lot of these things is a matter of what’s in his heart


These people astound me.
This complete lack of accountability by Palin and Santorum is beyond any word I could think of in the English language. If I were to tell a family whose elderly parent has a high risk of anesthesia complications but still approve surgery, then I should be cleared of any malpractice on the defense that my heart said it was his time to go.

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!
This article is from 2011, so she might be different now, but there's an interesting history of Sarah Palin included:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/06/the-tragedy-of-sarah-palin/308492/?single_page=true

quote:

Palin came out hard on the other side of the philosophical divide from Murkowski—and made it personal. She announced she would challenge him for governor. She assailed the “secret gas line deal” and the “multinational oil companies that make mind-boggling profits off resources owned by all Alaskans.” She put an “all-Alaska” pipeline at the center of her campaign. And she declared her intention to hire Tom Irwin to negotiate the deal. “She’s what I call ‘alley-cat smart,’” Tony Knowles, the former Democratic governor, told me. “It’s not about ideology. She knows how to pick her way down the political route that she feels will be the most beneficial to what she wants to do.”

...

Palin obsessed over her image, even more than most politicians. According to Bailey, she orchestrated a campaign to inundate newspapers with phony letters praising her. This evidently became a favored tactic. Bailey even includes a letter he says she wrote under another name accusing an opponent, John Binkley, of copying her Web-site design. (Excerpt: “This may not seem like such a big deal, but not having an original idea and taking credit for someone else’s work gives us a clue of how Johne [sic] works.”) In the idiom of the Web, Palin was a troll.

Dr.Zeppelin
Dec 5, 2003

clockwork sundial posted:

This article is from 2011, so she might be different now, but there's an interesting history of Sarah Palin included:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/06/the-tragedy-of-sarah-palin/308492/?single_page=true

That's probably just more the general tendency of people on the right to have some fairly progressive economic views until they hear how the team's supposed to feel.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
The answer is right there

quote:

She knows how to pick her way down the political route that she feels will be the most beneficial to what she wants to do.

Evidenced by the fact that after she had to go home after the circus of a national campaign that transformed her into a cartoon character, she said gently caress this place and cashed in on celebrity.

VirtualStranger
Aug 20, 2012

:lol:

Dr.Zeppelin posted:

That's probably just more the general tendency of people on the right to have some fairly progressive economic views until they hear how the team's supposed to feel those views will benefit black people.

Fixed that there.

Beowulfs_Ghost
Nov 6, 2009

quote:

...assailed the “secret gas line deal” and the “multinational oil companies that make mind-boggling profits off resources owned by all...

Free market loving Republican politician, or third world socialist firebrand?


By now, some one must have made some little web based game that is just cropped quotes and a choice of attributing it to seemingly polar opposite political personalities.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Beowulfs_Ghost posted:

Free market loving Republican politician, or third world socialist firebrand?

Or soulless parasite seeking personal gain off the engine of middle America's bigotry and xenophobia?

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
So the former, then

IceAgeComing
Jan 29, 2013

pretty fucking embarrassing to watch
I know he's not seen as being "right-wing" in the American press, but Piers Morgan is a total wanker, so everyone should feel happy watching him getting pelted by cricket balls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ePx61TkXKY

Vertical Lime
Dec 11, 2004

So Duck Dynasty will continue with Phil's suspension ending:

http://www.deadline.com/2013/12/a-duck-dynasty-to-resume-filming-in-spring/

Can't wait for the usual suspects to claim we won :fsmug:

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Ah, so after initially not firing him, they've decided to not fire him. A shocking turn of events indeed.

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


Vertical Lime posted:

So Duck Dynasty will continue with Phil's suspension ending:

http://www.deadline.com/2013/12/a-duck-dynasty-to-resume-filming-in-spring/

Can't wait for the usual suspects to claim we won :fsmug:

Michael Medved called it a "watershed moment in the culture war" and generally took the whole thing way too seriously.

Did anyone on the left really care about it one way or the other?

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Republicans posted:

Michael Medved called it a "watershed moment in the culture war" and generally took the whole thing way too seriously.

Did anyone on the left really care about it one way or the other?
Not really, on talk radio the general response was 'his comments are awful but he shouldn't get fired'

Die Sexmonster!
Nov 30, 2005

Republicans posted:

Michael Medved called it a "watershed moment in the culture war" and generally took the whole thing way too seriously.

Did anyone on the left really care about it one way or the other?

Not those who were smart enough to realize he's a character and not a real person.

MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!

Republicans posted:

Michael Medved called it a "watershed moment in the culture war" and generally took the whole thing way too seriously.

Did anyone on the left really care about it one way or the other?

It seems like conservatives care more about stupid symbolic "wins" like this than actual tangible progress for their political goals. The conservative media seems to be almost entirely silent over the fact that gays are marrying in Utah and signs are pointing to a very real possibility of that being a permanent thing. It's is odd because at a minimum this should elicit cries of ACTIVIST JUDICIAL TYRANNY but they care far more about getting the duck man back on TV, which would have happened in some way or another regardless of A&E's decision anyways.

Also look at the Chick-fil-a controversy, it mystifies me that conservatives seem to be really proud of that whole thing even though all they accomplished is making Dan Cathy slightly more wealthy. Chick-fil-a stopped donating to the worst of the anti-gay groups afterwards and the Chick-fil-a crowd's pet issue lost massively in the November '12 election. The whole thing about the Chick-fil-a thing was that it was supposed to be "foreshadowing for November" which clearly didn't pan out but they seem proud anyways :confused:.

MaxxBot fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Dec 28, 2013

NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."

MaxxBot posted:

Also look at the Chick-fil-a controversy, it mystifies me that conservatives seem to be really proud of that whole thing even though all they accomplished is making Dan Cathy slightly more wealthy. Chick-fil-a stopped donating to the worst of the anti-gay groups afterwards and the Chick-fil-a crowd's pet issue lost massively in the November '12 election. The whole thing about the Chick-fil-a thing was that it was supposed to be "foreshadowing for November" which clearly didn't pan out but they seem proud anyways :confused:.

They have a short attention span, and got to have fun celebrating their one-off holiday based on stuffing their faces with fried chicken to show solidarity in hating queers. Whether or not it actually accomplished anything in their favor is irrelevant.

beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

If the ratings for DD go up when the new episodes run I'll be surprised. They have the right wing bigots in their pocket, but they also had a lot of non-bigots watching before this happened, even many progressives. Who other than homophobic/racist fucktards would be interested in watching now?

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

beatlegs posted:

If the ratings for DD go up when the new episodes run I'll be surprised. They have the right wing bigots in their pocket, but they also had a lot of non-bigots watching before this happened, even many progressives. Who other than homophobic/racist fucktards would be interested in watching now?

Well, Chik Fil-A apparently had even higher sales after their president came out as a homophobe, so....

beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

Right, but presumably the number of Nielsen families is a fixed amount, conservatives can't be added to the Nielsen survey unlike Chik-fil-a which can always welcome more customers in.

skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.
That Chik-Fil-A thing pissed me off so much. Bible-thumpers acting like standing in line for two hours to buy a chicken sandwich (and did you notice no picture ever had someone with grilled chicken, or a wrap, or a salad?) made them into a 21st-century Rosa Parks.

Thomas13206
Jun 18, 2013

skaboomizzy posted:

That Chik-Fil-A thing pissed me off so much. Bible-thumpers acting like standing in line for two hours to buy a chicken sandwich (and did you notice no picture ever had someone with grilled chicken, or a wrap, or a salad?) made them into a 21st-century Rosa Parks.

http://jezebel.com/5931275/i-know-youre-mad-at-chik+fil+a-but-stop-taking-it-out-on-fat-people

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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skaboomizzy posted:

That Chik-Fil-A thing pissed me off so much. Bible-thumpers acting like standing in line for two hours to buy a chicken sandwich (and did you notice no picture ever had someone with grilled chicken, or a wrap, or a salad?) made them into a 21st-century Rosa Parks.

You're just jealous that they can afford to eat themselves into an early grave and you can't.

agarjogger
May 16, 2011

FlamingLiberal posted:

Not really, on talk radio the general response was 'his comments are awful but he shouldn't get fired'

I've never heard 'talk radio' used to describe the nonconservative variety, or whatever remains of it. Terrestrial talk is something like 90% conservative-libertarian, with what's left of the progressive shows eeking out an existence on iTunes.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

skaboomizzy posted:

That Chik-Fil-A thing pissed me off so much. Bible-thumpers acting like standing in line for two hours to buy a chicken sandwich (and did you notice no picture ever had someone with grilled chicken, or a wrap, or a salad?) made them into a 21st-century Rosa Parks.

They sell wraps and salads?

miscellaneous14
Mar 27, 2010

neat

Vertical Lime posted:

So Duck Dynasty will continue with Phil's suspension ending:

http://www.deadline.com/2013/12/a-duck-dynasty-to-resume-filming-in-spring/

Can't wait for the usual suspects to claim we won :fsmug:

Fox this morning talked about this, with a news header reading "BYE BYE PC POLICE: A&E Reversal a Win for Freedom of Speech. So yeah, they're going to ride this out as if every liberal in America was out for Phil Robertson's blood.

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

miscellaneous14 posted:

Fox this morning talked about this, with a news header reading "BYE BYE PC POLICE: A&E Reversal a Win for Freedom of Speech. So yeah, they're going to ride this out as if every liberal in America was out for Phil Robertson's blood.

Let's bring back Martin Bashir then.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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agarjogger posted:

I've never heard 'talk radio' used to describe the nonconservative variety, or whatever remains of it. Terrestrial talk is something like 90% conservative-libertarian, with what's left of the progressive shows eeking out an existence on iTunes.
I guess I should specify Sirius XM radio, since to my knowledge the last of the progressive talk stations in my state are long gone.

bobservo
Jul 24, 2003

The Heritage Foundation is obviously full of poo poo, but I love how they try to peg someone owning 60 Domino's Pizza restaurants as "small business." Also lots of talk about the American Dream when the woman in question inherited her status/money from her dead husband.

quote:

Did you know there are 34 million different ways to make a Domino’s pizza?

Mary Lynne Carraway can’t fit that on a menu board. But that’s what Obamacare says she has to do: Put up a menu board in each of her 60 Domino’s stores that tells people the calorie count of every possible combination. Of course, all the information is already available online.

“Right now I’m 60 to 70 percent Internet,” Carraway said of her business. “So people can go online and they can look at the nutritional values because it’s all broken up there.”

What would it mean for each of her stores to have to install such a menu board? A cost of about $5,000 per store—and that hits the managers and employees of each store. Those people aren’t numbers; Carraway knows her workers well.

“I have managers that worked for me that some of them have gone to law school, some of them have been accountants,” she said, proud that she is helping people achieve the American dream. And she has worked hard, even though she never intended to be a business owner.

Dang government regulations making me create a 34-million item menu -- it's not like I can walk into any other pizza restaurant and see that they just list the calorie amount for each individual topping!

http://blog.heritage.org/2013/11/20/obamacare-will-try-control-eat/

bobservo fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Dec 28, 2013

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

quote:

“I have managers that worked for me that some of them have gone to law school, some of them have been accountants,” she said, proud that she is helping people achieve the American dream.

The American Dream: Working as a Domino's manager while 300K in debt for college and law school degrees.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe
People that disingenuous should be sterilized.

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Fuckt Tupp
Apr 19, 2007

Science

The Ape of Naples posted:

Let's bring back Martin Bashir then.

MSNBC would've probably brought him back (they're kind of starved for programming) once things blew over, but he decided to resign while he was suspended.

The Robertson thing is a lot like what happened to Paula Deen earlier in the year. The more bigoted fans just started buying more of their stuff while the more casual fans hopefully got a good look at exactly the kind of thing they are supporting.

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