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White Dog Eggs posted:I've repaired a fair few Gibsons and the quality control is horrible. I've seen at least 4 guitars worth over £1000 that have fret issues (I have no idea how they put the frets in, but they weren't flat and it looked like they never had any levelling done, the fret buzz was insane), plastic nuts on £600 guitars, super-thick varnish and the inevitable head-stock issues. a guy in a band that was opening up for my act was showing off his "black beauty framptoned" les paul custom in the green room. he had it fitted with 3 PAF's and was beaming about it. "i won't say how much i paid, but it was more than your car dude, ok?" then i was like dude i drive a volvo s60, eat a dick bro 5 minutes in he barely nicked the loving neck on a mic stand and SNAP-OLA, the loving neck broke kinda clean off and was suspended by the strings brooooong feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee skrrrrrrrrrrrrr and out came the waterworks. a grown crying man cradling a broken guitar and he's in such shock he just starts to walk away, his shits feeding back, tears are streaming down his face at first I was like oh fuckin no, but then i admit i laughed pretty hard, barely containing my poo poo and actually trying as hard as i could not to laugh, he walked right past me crying like a bitch (he was wearing makeup and had a total glam getup on, balding and pudgy new jersey italian) and i was willing to loan him my paul reed smith but he was nowhere to be found. seriously, his band could not find him and when the place closed they were still looking for the dude
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 21:18 |
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Just chiming in for some Telecaster love. Simplicity is beauty.
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 21:18 |
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HD DAD posted:Just chiming in for some Telecaster love. Simplicity is beauty.
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Hobohemian posted:I am a bad guitar player and I bought this recently:http://www.rondomusic.com/CETIP90bk.html Tell me experts, how ugly is this guitar? Edit: Thinking of the wrong brand, sorry. The one I was thinking of was Agile. White Dog Eggs posted:I've repaired a fair few Gibsons and the quality control is horrible. I've seen at least 4 guitars worth over £1000 that have fret issues (I have no idea how they put the frets in, but they weren't flat and it looked like they never had any levelling done, the fret buzz was insane), plastic nuts on £600 guitars, super-thick varnish and the inevitable head-stock issues. This is what I hear a lot too, that their QC's all over the place. They still have good guitars but you have to actively find them, and that just isn't acceptable from a big name brand where most of their guitars are $1000-2000.
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 21:52 |
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White Dog Eggs posted:I've repaired a fair few Gibsons and the quality control is horrible. I've seen at least 4 guitars worth over £1000 that have fret issues (I have no idea how they put the frets in, but they weren't flat and it looked like they never had any levelling done, the fret buzz was insane), plastic nuts on £600 guitars, super-thick varnish and the inevitable head-stock issues. Actually it is really kind of sad, Agile makes better sounding, better quality Les Paul-alikes than Gibson makes Les Pauls, and they charge loving pennies for them.
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 21:53 |
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sound of the future
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 21:56 |
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I played drums in the 80s for lovely metal bands. This is what one guy had. God no
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 22:03 |
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Bonzo posted:I played drums in the 80s for lovely metal bands. This is what one guy had. lol fuckin hell speaking of lovely 80s metal bands, pretty much anything michael angelo batio used:
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 22:06 |
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looks like he killed a rodent and is using its fur as hair "Batio has an advanced knowledge of music theory, having a deep understanding of complex scale combinations and time signatures which assist him in his compositions. He is widely known for his extremely fast and well articulated alternate picking, which he credits to his use of anchoring, or planting the fingers he does not use while picking on the body of the guitar to restrict motion. He is also adept at fluid, sweep-picked arpeggios and tapping. Batio has cited F-sharp minor and F-sharp phrygian dominant as two of his favorite keys. He has described F sharp minor as a "demonic" key, giving a dark, evil sound. Batio invented and often demonstrates the "Over-Under" technique [citation needed]"
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 22:10 |
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Captain Tolerable posted:looks like he killed a rodent and is using its fur as hair i think some female fan he awkwardly hit on said he literally wears a hairpiece now lmao
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 22:11 |
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loooooool
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 22:21 |
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And any derivation of that ugly piece of poo poo.
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 22:25 |
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lol nothing is sacred
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 22:28 |
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Dolphin posted:
you're embarrassing yourself
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 22:29 |
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thanks for putting me into a death spiral i cannot stop laughing holy poo poo
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 22:51 |
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Harry in Rio posted:
wait til you see the quad guitar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDcBKVKQizg and then you get to the actual solo and it sounds like fuckin sounds made on an atari its crazy
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 22:53 |
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Dolphin posted:
The SG-3 is seriously the worst looking guitar. Three humbuckers, why? Why!? Dr. Faustus, you're the obvious expert here. Could you please explain, preferably in the form or a novella length aspergers induced rant, the benefits having three humbuckers will have on my quest to achieve the "Perfect Tone™"?
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 23:01 |
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Sorry bro, I got nothin'. Although whoever decided to put a finish on that guitar and then sand most of it off for a premium needs to be hanged. VVV You just jelly. Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Dec 30, 2013 |
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Ain't that the truth.
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 23:03 |
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Harry in Rio posted:a guy in a band that was opening up for my act was showing off his "black beauty framptoned" les paul custom in the green room. he had it fitted with 3 PAF's and was beaming about it. "i won't say how much i paid, but it was more than your car dude, ok?" then i was like dude i drive a volvo s60, eat a dick bro Hang on, are you saying that if failed at the neck joint? That's loving hilarious if Gibson are getting too cheap to use enough glue. thelightguy posted:Actually it is really kind of sad, Agile makes better sounding, better quality Les Paul-alikes than Gibson makes Les Pauls, and they charge loving pennies for them. EVERYONE makes a better Les-Paul than Gibson, even Epiphone (!!!!), when people ask me about getting a vintage Les Paul I tell them to look for a Japanese 70's LP copy (there are too many brands to list here) and get me or someone else to give it a fret job. They are better in every single way and can be easily be brought for under £200. Dolphin posted:
SG's are kind of crappy in fairness, they started out as a new Les Paul design, but, Gibson being Gibson, they ignored most of his ideas (The original design was neck-thru rather than set-neck, it had a 25" scale (which is what PRS uses, probably the best all around fret scale imo) as opposed to their boomy 24 /34" scale, it had a thicker volute to stop the LP headstock issue, had 24 frets and a fwew other things I can't remember. Lesp Paul refused to put his name on it and didn't associate with Gibson for a long time after. Gibson are dicks.
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 23:10 |
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Jedrick posted:
Ohh ohh ohh, I can sperg too! 3 humbuckers is mostly used for that nu-metal korn/limp bizkit sound, there may be other uses but hosed if I know what they are. Also that guitar looks like someone wiped their rear end on it.
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 23:14 |
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White Dog Eggs posted:Ohh ohh ohh, I can sperg too! 3 humbuckers is mostly used for that nu-metal korn/limp bizkit sound, there may be other uses but hosed if I know what they are.
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 23:24 |
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gently caress Henry Juszkiewicz
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 23:25 |
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If you want to see some really ugly guitars look at everything that Amir from Orgy designed with Jackson when Orgy was super popular
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 23:40 |
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GreatGreen posted:
Did reddit make that? I can see them calling it The Upvote
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 23:40 |
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Bonzo posted:Did reddit make that? I can see them calling it The Upvote Oh no, it's real. I have taken this exact guitar off a rack at a music store and held it. It was such a hideous abomination I had to touch it to make sure it was really there and that it wasn't just me having a stroke and imagining it.
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 23:43 |
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GreatGreen posted:Oh no, it's real. I have taken this exact guitar off a rack at a music store and held it. It was such a hideous abomination I had to touch it to make sure it was really there and that it wasn't just me having a stroke. I got asked to make one of these an refused because there is no way the customer would be happy with that, it's stupid in every single way.
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 23:47 |
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White Dog Eggs posted:Hang on, are you saying that if failed at the neck joint? That's loving hilarious if Gibson are getting too cheap to use enough glue. i'm pretty sure it broke like this, and the neck joint held, exposing yet another flaw in a gibson that cost probably $6000 dollar ffs
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White Dog Eggs posted:I got asked to make one of these an refused because there is no way the customer would be happy with that, it's stupid in every single way. are you literally a guitar luthier because thats pretty cool and ive always wanted to do that Harry in Rio posted:i'm pretty sure it broke like this, and the neck joint held, exposing yet another flaw in a gibson that cost probably $6000 dollar ffs lol at least it's not neck thru, i guess set necks at least have a chance of being fixed kind of?
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 23:50 |
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Rhopunzel posted:are you literally a guitar luthier because thats pretty cool and ive always wanted to do that yeah, i mean, i see a lot of les pauls and sgs that i know are the real deal because the loving headstock has already fallen off and been repaired
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 23:53 |
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Harry in Rio posted:i'm pretty sure it broke like this, and the neck joint held, exposing yet another flaw in a gibson that cost probably $6000 dollar ffs Yep. A $2,000 Gibson is a nice $800 guitar but a piece of poo poo $2,000 guitar. A $6,000 Gibson is a nice $1,200 guitar but a piece of poo poo $6,000 guitar. GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Dec 31, 2013 |
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Harry in Rio posted:i'm pretty sure it broke like this, and the neck joint held, exposing yet another flaw in a gibson that cost probably $6000 dollar ffs That's weird, they are either using super-lovely wood or they are making the necks too thin, or, knowing Gibson, both. At least it's an easy fix (glue is stronger than wood, so once it's glued it won't break again). That is insane that they'd let something that lovely out the factory. Rhopunzel posted:are you literally a guitar luthier because thats pretty cool and ive always wanted to do that I guess I am, I'm usually known as "The guitar guy" though. I have a few builds I could post here, I've built some stupid poo poo over the years (I'm making a guitar out of a frying pan atm).
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# ? Dec 31, 2013 00:02 |
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GreatGreen posted:Yep. A $2,000 Gibson is a nice $800 guitar but a piece of poo poo $2,000 guitar. A $6,000 Gibson is a nice $1,200 guitar but a piece of poo poo $6,000 guitar. A bit kinder than I would have been, but this is pretty spot on. Post-1994 PRS guitar are a loving rip off too.
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White Dog Eggs posted:A bit kinder than I would have been, but this is pretty spot on. Post-1994 PRS guitar are a loving rip off too. Yeah, for $6,000 you can get just about any of the best luthiers in the world to build you your dream guitar with exact customization on basically every possible customizable part. For $3,500-$5,000 you can buy a top-of-the-line production guitar from basically any of the best guitar companies in the world, any of which would laugh the best most expensive Gibson you can find these days out of the building. Gibson's prices are ludicrous by basically any measurable degree.
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# ? Dec 31, 2013 00:08 |
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# ? Dec 31, 2013 00:09 |
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This is my "ugly" guitar. Most people think "Antigua" finish is ugly. i think its awesome, so does my cat
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# ? Dec 31, 2013 00:32 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 16:10 |
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This was my first guitar, got it when I was 15, I think it cost $400 or so. I still have it, and it's as butt ugly as the day I got it. No that's not my picture, I don't pose my old guitar on navajo rugs for intimate photo sessions.
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