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I thought it was a good idea if you were the clear #1, because its just less of an opportunity for you to gently caress up. That said, McCarron is no where near the clear or even muddy #1.
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I think there's enough tape on McCarron that he doesn't need the Senior Bowl, I mean all eyes have been on Alabama the whole time he was there. He's a QB who has received national attention and spotlight for years. The scouts should know everything about him by now. Geno Smith had a lot of bad tape and finished his career at WVU with a stretch of very poor football; his refusal was more perplexing to me. We just need to accept that last year's QBs were exactly what the scouts had been saying they were for months... not good enough. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Jan 1, 2014 |
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Connor Shaw has been invited to the combine. Good for him.
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Jan 1, 2014 23:29
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RumbleFish posted:Connor Shaw has been invited to the combine. Good for him. I thought he showed good mobility today and a nice touch on his throws. I know he has made some dumb decisions before, but this game he was pretty good. Only 6'1" and a shade over 200 lbs so that is probably a big knock. Still, if the guy has a good Senior Bowl and a decent combine could end up as a Day 2 selection.
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Jan 1, 2014 23:32
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Benne posted:...who fell to the 2nd round while E.J. Manuel performed well and was the first QB drafted. I don't think McCarron has anything to show there that he couldn't show at the combine. Manuel, on the other hand, hand a good senior bowl in addition to testing well at the combine which helped him overcome the bizarre lack of credit he got for his time at FSU
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Jan 1, 2014 23:34
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Benne posted:A.J. McCarron is skipping the Senior Bowl Unless he's injured, then that seems like a bad idea. For his sake, I hope he knows what he's doing.
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Aniki posted:Unless he's injured, then that seems like a bad idea. For his sake, I hope he knows what he's doing. 
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Jan 1, 2014 23:38
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Shaw is probably a 3rd day pick at best, he really doesn't have the size and has had a pretty rough injury history at South Carolina. He'll at least get a chance to secure a cushy backup job in the NFL.
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Jan 1, 2014 23:40
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Is he saying God is MVP
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The thing about AJ McCarron is that he was viewed (rightly or not) as a game manager. Right or wrong, the guy has that label affixed to him and the only way to get it off is to have an awesome Sugar Bowl (which means Bama has to get away from their run first ball control offense) or have an awesome Senior Bowl. The combine is ok, but its not hard to have a great workout or pro-day when it isn't true competition. I understand not wanting to play in the Senior Bowl, you are basically being thrown in with a bunch of people and a random coach who may run a completely different system and you have like a week to develop chemistry with receivers, running backs, etc. Despite that, I think unless he feels like he is going to poo poo the bed, the Senior Bowl would be a good thing for McCarron if only to try and shake the "game manager" tag.
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swickles posted:The thing about AJ McCarron is that he was viewed (rightly or not) as a game manager. Right or wrong, the guy has that label affixed to him and the only way to get it off is to have an awesome Sugar Bowl (which means Bama has to get away from their run first ball control offense) or have an awesome Senior Bowl. The combine is ok, but its not hard to have a great workout or pro-day when it isn't true competition. He actually threw a lot this year and was good even if he wasn't Winston or Manziel. He's got a decent arm, he's not a statue, and he could be an okay west coast guy. I'd say he's maybe the fourth best QB in the SEC as far as pro prospects go
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Jan 1, 2014 23:45
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I didn't think I'd see a worse college QB tattoo than Bray's anytime soon but there it is
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Rasczak posted:I didn't think I'd see a worse college QB tattoo than Bray's anytime soon but there it is You know, I never looked at it closely until now, but it does have his name in there, McCarron at the bottom. Also, Bama Boy at top, Home Team on the left, and God in Control on the right framed around MVI (?). Can anyone make out the writing on the shield in the center?
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Maybe it's just that in a crowded QB market I don't think any kind of positive performance at the Senior Bowl would have changed the fact that he's in the second tier of guys anyway... the top QBs are underclassmen to begin with, and I don't know what I would see from McCarron in the game and what scouts would see in the practices that would change my mind on that. Besides, the Cleveland Browns coaching staff might be participating in this year's Senior Bowl and who wants to be a part of that mess. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Jan 2, 2014 |
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Jan 1, 2014 23:59
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swickles posted:Can anyone make out the writing on the shield in the center? 'Ma Pops' Yeah, seriously
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Gatts posted:I understand he got hurt, but was Aaron Murray good? Yeah, he was pretty good. Hard to tell now but as high as round 2, but most likely 3-4.
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swickles posted:You know, I never looked at it closely until now, but it does have his name in there, McCarron at the bottom. Also, Bama Boy at top, Home Team on the left, and God in Control on the right framed around MVI (?). Can anyone make out the writing on the shield in the center? It's not MVI it's MVP Oh poo poo there's a dove in the corner
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Watching the Rose Bowl right now. Stanford OG David Yankey is officially on my Seahawks wish list.
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Mods please change one of the Alabama posters' name to BAMA BOY tia
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I wonder how long his mother cried when she first saw that thing "But ma it's got 'Ma' right there on it!"
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Quest For Glory II posted:Maybe it's just that in a crowded QB market I don't think any kind of positive performance at the Senior Bowl would have changed the fact that he's in the second tier of guys anyway... the top QBs are underclassmen to begin with, and I don't know what I would see from McCarron in the game and what scouts would see in the practices that would change my mind on that. Maybe he coulda played into the 2nd or 3rd round? I see him as a 4th maybe 5th round guy now...
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I had a dream last night and during part of it I saw on TV that JFF had decided to stay for one more year at A&M. So I guess everybody can take him off their boards.
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Arschlochkind posted:I had a dream last night and during part of it I saw on TV that JFF had decided to stay for one more year at A&M. So I guess everybody can take him off their boards. Are you the guy that dreamed the Dolphins walk off safety the night before it happened? If not than I am going with Johnny Football in the draft.
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swickles posted:Are you the guy that dreamed the Dolphins walk off safety the night before it happened? If not than I am going with Johnny Football in the draft. That wasn't me, I just want to have proof in case it's true that my mutant powers have awakened.
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McCarron is skipping because he's either injured or worried about his performance. I don't blame him either way. Skipping the senior bowl isn't as big of deal as you're all making it out to be. Regardless, McCarron isn't a top 50 prospect anyway.
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I having a lot of trouble finding film on Jordan Matthews. I'm assuming this is because he goes to a small school and doesn't have a draft ready Qb throwing the ball to him but if anyone knows of a good place to find his film let me know.
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Jan 2, 2014 02:16
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Draftbreakdown has videos on just about everybody, more specifically they have 8 for Jordan Matthews, although only 2 from this year: http://draftbreakdown.com/players/jordan-matthews/
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Thanks. I had seen that before though. It just seems odd to me that they just stopped coming. Maybe they'll show up as the drafts grows nearer. Are there any teams that might conceivably want to move up into the middle of the first? It seems unlikely to me because of the likely high cost for limited value.
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Quest For Glory II posted:Maybe it's just that in a crowded QB market I don't think any kind of positive performance at the Senior Bowl would have changed the fact that he's in the second tier of guys anyway... the top QBs are underclassmen to begin with, and I don't know what I would see from McCarron in the game and what scouts would see in the practices that would change my mind on that. Well, maybe the coaching staff they hire to send over there will be a competent, capable group who will help grow and build great things in clevehahahahahahaha 
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swickles posted:The thing about AJ McCarron is that he was viewed (rightly or not) as a game manager. Right or wrong, the guy has that label affixed to him and the only way to get it off is to have an awesome Sugar Bowl (which means Bama has to get away from their run first ball control offense) or have an awesome Senior Bowl. The combine is ok, but its not hard to have a great workout or pro-day when it isn't true competition. Senior bowl can be really hit and miss. You never know he could be doing the smart thing and going somewhere like IMG to work his craft like a few others have done which benefit them more than going to the senior bowl. I think most guys should be going unless they're top flight guys, but I can't really blame him for skipping it, unless he's just going to sit around, then it's definitely a huge mistake.
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So what do the Browns need, again? Besides competent management? QB, RB, WR, and...?
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Gatts posted:So what do the Browns need, again? Besides competent management? QB, RB, WR, and...? DB help I think and if you guys insist on sticking with the 3-4 you'll probably want a DE
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It's only halftime so far, but Bortles isn't playing that well against Baylor.
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Jan 2, 2014 04:32
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Kirios posted:It's only halftime so far, but Bortles isn't playing that well against Baylor. First INT was bad luck, second one was a bad throw. Other than those he's looked as good as Petty I suppose. Both defenses are playing very well despite the score.
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Kirios posted:It's only halftime so far, but Bortles isn't playing that well against Baylor. To be fair there is something funky with the field and it really seems to be affecting receivers routes. Instead of water they must have just sprayed astroglide everywhere.
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I don't really think that highly of Petty as a prospect, so I fully expect Bortles to outplay him. The field isn't ideal but Bortles, while he has made some excellent throws, has also made some very boneheaded decisions. I already experienced that with Case Keenum.
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Gatts posted:So what do the Browns need, again? Besides competent management? QB, RB, WR, and...? Realistically: QB RB WR2 C (If Mack leaves) RG RT MLB2 CB2 maybe another DE, but I think we're pretty alright there
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