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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I don't understand why the minimum wage isn't permanently indexed to inflation (or, for that matter, deflation). You probably wouldn't want to a minimum wage to deflation.
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 16:22 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 20:13 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I don't understand why the minimum wage isn't permanently indexed to inflation (or, for that matter, deflation). It is tied to inflation in many states or cities, but it tends to get shot down federally. Tieing to deflation at well gets avoided because no good can come of that.
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 16:25 |
It just seems like the exact sort of absolute no-brainer that everyone would support except politicians (who want the issue to fight over again every few years). Index it to the same cost of living measure we use for social security.
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 16:33 |
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Lycus posted:Maybe I'm just a negative nancy, but I'm waiting to see how the successful the Republicans are at convincing people that min wage hikes will just cause unemployment to skyrocket. Places with the highest minimum wages have the lowest unemployment. It's an easy, digestible fact hat justifies the thing people already want. The biggest issue with democratic policies is selling them, they're usually too complex to explain easily which is why you end up with Obamacare hatred (but explaining bits and pieces of the ACA ends up with approval). Minimum wage increases don't require much elaboration. You get more money. The places that do this have lower unemployment. Republicans are great at taking over messaging for stuff that's hard to explain, or they get to beat people to the punch. Trickle down economics is with us today because a popular dude explained a simple concept. Not because it works. A minimum wage increase falls under this principle.
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 16:35 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:It just seems like the exact sort of absolute no-brainer that everyone would support except politicians (who want the issue to fight over again every few years). Index it to the same cost of living measure we use for social security. I think it's that getting a minimum wage increase through Congress has always been a struggle, and usually required peeling off a few people who would rather not through earmarks or the like. Those people both want to maintain their leverage and aren't really so gung-ho about the idea they want it done permanently.
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 16:43 |
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Going to play eternal skeptic again: if the Dems need the most to win in areas that are more suburban and upscale (your Philly mainline, Grosse Pointe, suburban Charlotte and RDU example), will a hike in the minimum wage matter that much? I'm under the impression that 2006 was won mostly due to Bush incompetence and Iraq, not low-wage worker issues. I really have no clue how you fix the current ACA disadvantage among these groups.
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 20:00 |
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De Nomolos posted:Going to play eternal skeptic again: if the Dems need the most to win in areas that are more suburban and upscale (your Philly mainline, Grosse Pointe, suburban Charlotte and RDU example), will a hike in the minimum wage matter that much? If you play big on the minimum wage increase, you're probably betting on losing a few suburban votes but more than making up for it by driving up absysmal lower-class turnout. Also, there are more people making less than $10/hr or whatever than ever, yay!
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 20:12 |
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FMguru posted:Raising the minimum wage is broadly popular across the electorate (including among Republicans) and it's something that has the potential to mobilize phlegmatic Democratic base voters who don't usually vote in a midterm election, as well as attract independents. I'm willing to bet that this oft-cited GOP support of a minimum wage hike drops off a cliff when the survey prompt changes from "Do you want to see the minimum wage increased?" to "Democrats are proposing an increase in the minimum wage, do you support this?"
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 20:12 |
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De Nomolos posted:Going to play eternal skeptic again: if the Dems need the most to win in areas that are more suburban and upscale (your Philly mainline, Grosse Pointe, suburban Charlotte and RDU example), will a hike in the minimum wage matter that much? What Dems really need is their voters who usually only turn out for presidential elections to actually turn out for the mid-term, and that's a demographic that skews heavily to the poor side.
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# ? Dec 30, 2013 20:28 |
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Amused to Death posted:What Dems really need is their voters who usually only turn out for presidential elections to actually turn out for the mid-term, and that's a demographic that skews heavily to the poor side. The other side of it is the electorate will most likely fall somewhere between 2010's and 2008's demographically, so any bump in Dem turnout will help. Of course gerrymandering and incumbent advantage pretty much means there won't be much movement either way, but that's not new info.
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# ? Dec 31, 2013 04:38 |
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I don't understand why the minimum wage isn't permanently indexed to inflation (or, for that matter, deflation).
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# ? Dec 31, 2013 07:06 |
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Waterbed posted:Places with the highest minimum wages have the lowest unemployment. It's an easy, digestible fact hat justifies the thing people already want. States with a higher minimum wage than the federal rate have somewhat higher unemployment rates on average.
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# ? Dec 31, 2013 14:48 |
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Install Windows posted:They raised it once. The phase in steps from 5.15 to 7.25 don't count as individual raises. Do you have more information for this?
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# ? Dec 31, 2013 16:50 |
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:Do you have more information for this? 110th Congress (2007-2008) H.R.2.EAS In the Senate of the United States, February 1, 2007. Resolved, That the bill from the House of Representatives (H.R. 2) entitled `An Act to amend the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 to provide for an increase in the Federal minimum wage.', do pass with the following AMENDMENT: Strike out all after the enacting clause and insert: TITLE I--FAIR MINIMUM WAGE SEC. 100. SHORT TITLE. This title may be cited as the `Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2007'. SEC. 101. MINIMUM WAGE. (a) In General- Section 6(a)(1) of the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 (29 U.S.C. 206(a)(1)) is amended to read as follows: `(1) except as otherwise provided in this section, not less than-- `(A) $5.85 an hour, beginning on the 60th day after the date of enactment of the Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2007; `(B) $6.55 an hour, beginning 12 months after that 60th day; and `(C) $7.25 an hour, beginning 24 months after that 60th day;'. (b) Effective Date- The amendment made by subsection (a) shall take effect 60 days after the date of enactment of this Act. (irrelevant following sections cut out for brevity) If I remember right, this text was actually passed as an amendment on a defense bill at the end.
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Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX and the biggest troll in Congress) becomes the first national politician to accept bitcoin for his Senate primary campaign against John Cornyn (R-TX).
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Install Windows posted:110th Congress (2007-2008) Wow holy poo poo they really did just do it in one bill. Goddamn. Anyways, now that it's actually 2014, it's time for the crazy to ramp up. CNN probably has already started the horse trading.
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# ? Jan 2, 2014 03:11 |
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:Wow holy poo poo they really did just do it in one bill. Goddamn. Anyways, now that it's actually 2014, it's time for the crazy to ramp up. CNN probably has already started the horse trading. Yeah it's standard practice for minimum wage bills. You just can't get a sudden jump passed , but phasing it in over a few years plays well with the neccesary power bases.
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# ? Jan 2, 2014 03:17 |
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Install Windows posted:Yeah it's standard practice for minimum wage bills. You just can't get a sudden jump passed , but phasing it in over a few years plays well with the neccesary power bases. They just out-inflate it anyway. "poo poo! All the money is stuck in the bank! Please please print more!"
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Joementum posted:Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX and the biggest troll in Congress) becomes the first national politician to accept bitcoin for his Senate primary campaign against John Cornyn (R-TX). I am sure the FEC will love that.
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Joementum posted:Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX and the biggest troll in Congress) becomes the first national politician to accept bitcoin for his Senate primary campaign against John Cornyn (R-TX). Can't wait til he is only able to afford to advertise on Dwolla or RonPaulForums.com. I'm going to run for office and only accept donations in the form of K rations.
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Mooseontheloose posted:I am sure the FEC will love that. The FEC apparently HAS issued rules on accepting Bitcoin--the key part here is they do have to be cashed out to and declared as dollars.
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api call girl posted:The FEC apparently HAS issued rules on accepting Bitcoin--the key part here is they do have to be cashed out to and declared as dollars. So it's impossible for him to do this legally, then.
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# ? Jan 2, 2014 21:06 |
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Joementum posted:So it's impossible for him to do this legally, then. Nah, all he needs to do is buy a shopping bag full of Amazon giftcards and hock them.
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David Waddell has resigned from the town board of Indian Trail, N.C. by submitting a resignation letter written in Klingon.quote:In an interview Thursday, Waddell said his resignation letter to Mayor Michael Alvarez was written in Klingon, the language of a proud warrior race in the “Star Trek” TV shows and movies, as an inside joke. But in case the mayor wasn’t up to speed with his Klingon, Waddell included a translation using Bing.com. But as exciting as mid-sized-town politics in North Carolina obviously are, Waddell resigned in part to conduct a write-in campaign as the Constitution Party alternative to Kay Hagan for US Senate. Of course, bISeH'eghlaH'be'chugh latlh Dara'laH'be'
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# ? Jan 3, 2014 00:25 |
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Now yer just puttin' on airs.
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# ? Jan 3, 2014 01:33 |
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Alter Ego posted:Soon Scott Brown will claim every major Northeast city as his home. Or he'll move to Texas, like Bush.
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# ? Jan 3, 2014 02:23 |
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Well looks like Kasich might have a Tea Party primary challenger now over expanding Medicaid? Now if Husted could be out on his rear end this November as well...
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# ? Jan 3, 2014 03:22 |
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Joementum posted:David Waddell has resigned from the town board of Indian Trail, N.C. by submitting a resignation letter written in Klingon. Considering the Republican primary's likely to head to a runoff, seems a waste for such a strong candidate to go with a lesser novelty joke party.
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# ? Jan 3, 2014 10:33 |
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It's a 55%+ GOP district, but if anyone can win it, it's a popular wealthy gay American Idol: http://gawker.com/get-ready-for-cla...dium=socialflow quote:Clay Aiken is a bored, rich person so he might as well consider running for office. That, according to the Washington Blade, is precisely an idea the 35-year-old singer has started to put in motion in recent months. From American Idol winner to... the gay Al Franken?
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# ? Jan 3, 2014 16:22 |
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Considering that North Carolina passed a marriage amendment in May 2012, it might be a place where being gay could hurt a candidate.
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# ? Jan 3, 2014 16:53 |
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Scotty McCreery would probably fare better, but it'd cut into his busy schedule hawking Bojangles and winning Howdy Doody lookalike contests. Now that Mel Watt got the FHFA gig, maybe Fantasia Barrino can run in the 12th. notthegoatseguy posted:Considering that North Carolina passed a marriage amendment in May 2012, it might be a place where being gay could hurt a candidate. The dude who's raised the most money so far in the race for Watt's old seat is openly gay. And openly black. Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jan 3, 2014 |
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notthegoatseguy posted:Considering that North Carolina passed a marriage amendment in May 2012, it might be a place where being gay could hurt a candidate.
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# ? Jan 3, 2014 17:32 |
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It depends on the (highly gerrymandered) district. The 3rd or 11th or 10th? Suicide (and yet PDA backed and fundraised for an atheist candidate in the 11th. Go figure). The 2nd sucks now, but it's got a lot of wealthy suburbs in there and it's the RDU market. It's about 55-45 GOP. There aren't any pickup opportunities in NC right now, but this is the closest.
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De Nomolos posted:It depends on the (highly gerrymandered) district. The 3rd or 11th or 10th? Suicide (and yet PDA backed and fundraised for an atheist candidate in the 11th. Go figure). The 2nd sucks now, but it's got a lot of wealthy suburbs in there and it's the RDU market. It's about 55-45 GOP. There aren't any pickup opportunities in NC right now, but this is the closest. The 2nd and 13th are potential pickups in 2016. Obama actually flipped whitebread Nash County last year, and nearly picked up Franklin in 2008. Seriously doubt Aiken would run, but middle aged suburban white women love him, which couldn't hurt.
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Steve Lonegan, who lost the NJ Senate special election to Cory Booker, has decided to move to South Jersey to try and take John Runyan's seat: http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/01/lonegan_says_hell_run_for_congress.html#incart_river_default The article is a good synopsis of NJ state-level politics in a nutshell: going back on campaign promises, carpetbagging, and petty infighting within parties. Does the Democratic candidate have a chance? Hell if I know.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Well looks like Kasich might have a Tea Party primary challenger now over expanding Medicaid? Now if Husted could be out on his rear end this November as well... Kasich's war chest will allow him to murder this dude with impunity at any rate. And that's ignoring that the tea party in Ohio isn't suicidal like most branches. Republicans here like the slick wall street types over the true believers anyways, and Kasich has enough goodwill built up from the SB5, Jobs Ohio, and closed-room budget additions (anti-choice riders) that the Tea Party orthodoxy aren't going to pull out the long knives for him. Especially considering the Ds are putting up Fitzgerald who is coming from Cuyahoga County which will allow him to carry urban Cleveland, Columbus, and maybe Toledo, Youngstown, and Akron if he's lucky. Ohio elections are won in the suburbs though, and Kasich is far better for that fight than any tea party challenger, especially when you're dealing with a guy who got elected to be essentially the king of the biggest suburban county in Ohio. They're not going to ignore the money and organization Kasich has when they're dealing with someone like Fitz. This is symbolic, if that. If the tea baggers go after anyone this year, it'll be Boehner. And that'll last all of five minutes for similar reasons to Kasich. Until Portman goes up in 2016 (same-sex marriage woes), they won't have much venom for anyone.
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ufarn posted:Or being the place they passed Sharia law in an anti-Sharia bill. Can you elaborate? I couldn't find any reference to this.
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I am not a book posted:Can you elaborate? I couldn't find any reference to this. Might be referring to the original provisions declaring the state had the right to declare an official religion and banning abortion which were struck from the final bill. The anti-abortion measures were later snuck into a motorcycle safety bill which led to #MotorcycleVagina becoming a thing on twitter. e: No wait the religious establishment thing was from a separate bill around the same time. That was a whole blur of outlandish legislation.
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Adjunct Cheesecake posted:Steve Lonegan, who lost the NJ Senate special election to Cory Booker, has decided to move to South Jersey to try and take John Runyan's seat: Lonegan's probably the most popular Republican within the Republican Party in that district, but he's going to have to run off both the Burlington and Ocean lines. Unless Burlington and Ocean unite on a candidate, he'll probably win but it'll be bloody.
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Probably won't be politically relevant, but if you enjoy juicy gossip, the Tampa Bay Times has you covered with an in-depth look at the late Bill Young's... first family. I've lived in his district for almost 10 years and I had no idea he was married and raised a family for about 30 years before dumping them all for a 26-year-old secretary whom he had a child out of wedlock with (that'd be Bill Young II). The most entertaining part of the article is, as I have come to learn in recent months, whenever that ex-secretary opens her mouth. quote:After Young's death, Beverly Young sent emails to a number of local politicians asking them to stay away from her husband's funeral. That's cold, Beverly. Real cold. In related news, early voting for the GOP primary is about to begin in Young's old district. David Jolly (Beverly's and Bob Barker's pick) vs. Kathleen Peters (Bill Young II's pick) and... some other guy who isn't going to win. A reminder that whoever wins the primary will go against Alex Sink in March. If Sink wins the special election, I'm getting more and more of a feeling that Beverly Young herself will try and unseat Sink in November.
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