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Joementum posted:Keep in mind: he's paid $30m/yr for that. I have decided to preserve my sanity by translating that as "millidollars".
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Happy New Year and Breitbart is losing their poo poo on Lawmegeddon
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Keeping the placenta is bad? But keeping your dead fetus is...?
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Joementum posted:Keep in mind: he's paid $30m/yr for that. 
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Here is their "article" on California or as many commenters call it Kaliforniaquote:As 2014 is just a day away, new laws have been crafted for Californians to adhere to. Here are just a few blessed laws and regulations that will come into effect in 2014:
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As 2014 is just a day away, new laws have been crafted for Californians to adhere to. Here are just a few blessed laws and regulations that will come into effect in 2014: [list of good things] Freedom is Dead!! 
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Wearing clothes, jewelry: OK Burning carcinogens in a public place: somehow not OK, America???
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Is that 46th best or worst?
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Oh no the single greatest threat to freedom: nose rings 
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quiggy stardust posted:Oh no the single greatest threat to freedom: Based on the 'kindergarten transgender' outrage I think this is more appropriate.
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Jan 1, 2014 18:37
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aBagorn posted:Based on the 'kindergarten transgender' outrage I think this is more appropriate. The hate and bigotry they have for lesbians and gays does not even come close to their hate on trans* issues. A taste of comments quote:ShadowMosesatArea51 • 30 minutes ago −
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Rochallor posted:Is that 46th best or worst? From http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm - 46th as in almost the highest unemployment rate.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:The hate and bigotry they have for lesbians and gays does not even come close to their hate on trans* issues. Reminder that the murder rate among trans people, especially trans women, is dismally high. I'm otherwise a completely white bread individual but because I'm a trans woman there's somewhere around a 10% chance that I'll die at the hands of someone else.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:The hate and bigotry they have for lesbians and gays does not even come close to their hate on trans* issues. I love how whenever conservatives complain about it they immediately go to images of guys going into women's dressing rooms and bathrooms. Not unlike the homophobes who seem to be a little too interested in the details of buttsex, they may be revealing more about themselves than they realize.
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quiggy stardust posted:Reminder that the murder rate among trans people, especially trans women, is dismally high. I'm otherwise a completely white bread individual but because I'm a trans woman there's somewhere around a 10% chance that I'll die at the hands of someone else. If there is any solace on that topic, it seems like societal acceptance has accelerated in the last few decades compared to the tortoise-like pace of racial civil rights and woman's suffrage. Obviously some groups are far slower in this regard and there have been some speedbumps along the way, but coming from the 70's/80's and the big pushback against gay marriage in the 90's I'm fairly surprised at how quick society's turnaround has been on the acceptance of gay rights and hope that makes you a little optimistic for your own plight. Guilty Spork posted:I kind of want to ask those kinds of people why exactly they think the existence of trans* people matters to their lives in any way. I mean, I sure as hell can't think of any reason it matters to me, except that there's a class of people who arbitrarily face discrimination and murder, and since I try to be a decent human being I'd rather that not happen. My SO's tea party father framed this as a horrific issue of sexual deviancy that will result in mass rape and crime, I guess as a means to shield his extremely bigoted opinions on gays/trans/not-affluent-and-white people. He didn't take kindly to me wondering how someone sitting in the bathroom stall would impact him in any way, or how bathrooms as they currently are prevent any form of rape. The fallback argument is his favorite "when you have a young daughter you'll understand" which stems from his massive fear and paranoia of anything different inevitably resulting in the rape and death of young women. 
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Refried Hero posted:From http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm - 46th as in almost the highest unemployment rate. I wonder how much of that is having a relatively long unemployment insurance payout period. For example NC's UE rate dropped 1.5% in a few months after the state kicked half the people off unemployment, and the labor force participation rate fell at twice the nationwide rate.
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comes along bort posted:I wonder how much of that is having a relatively long unemployment insurance payout period. For example NC's UE rate dropped 1.5% in a few months after the state kicked half the people off unemployment, and the labor force participation rate fell at twice the nationwide rate. Am I interpreting you correctly as saying their UE dropped but basically because those people were removed from the "workforce" entirely? I know LFPR is calculated using people actively searching for employment or employed at the time, but this seems like a fairly believable factor in the much touted UE rate reduction due to low min wage. Someone posted some lovely blog yesterday that mentioned how New England states are generally lower than the national UE average rate while having higher minimum wage, compared to IL/CA and a few other states with poor UE. I never thought to compare the unemployment benefit lengths, even if they are far from the only factor.
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joeburz posted:The fallback argument is his favorite "when you have a young daughter you'll understand" This is such a dumbass argument. Older relatives are always like "when you have kids, you'll understand" or "you just don't know what it's like to protect your daughter". If it helps, my dad was pro-life until he had my sister and I, then he realized that strict anti-abortion and anti-contraception laws could easily ruin our lives. Having daughters made him a feminist :3
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joeburz posted:"when you have a young daughter you'll understand" The risky but potentially satisfying retort here is, "what if my child is trans?" Ed: SedanChair posted:Only if you're satisfied by "beat them until they're not." Thus the risk. Pirate Radar fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Jan 1, 2014 |
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Chantilly Say posted:The risky but potentially satisfying retort here is, "what if my child is trans?" Only if you're satisfied by "beat them until they're not."
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I fully expect that any "defects" in his mind will somehow be OK if his grandchild ends up that way, much like how GOP congresspeople end up supporting gay rights once their child comes out(provided they aren't an archlich incapable of compassion on any level like Cheney).
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joeburz posted:I fully expect that any "defects" in his mind will somehow be OK if his grandchild ends up that way, much like how GOP congresspeople end up supporting gay rights once their child comes out(provided they aren't an archlich incapable of compassion on any level like Cheney). Cheney was capable of it though? That is basically his only redeeming feature.
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PUGGERNAUT posted:This is such a dumbass argument. Older relatives are always like "when you have kids, you'll understand" or "you just don't know what it's like to protect your daughter". Just tell them "if you can't explain it, you don't understand it either." But good luck pulling that on a parent.
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It's the same as people who say "you'd understand if you took ECON101". Just a lazy cop-out argument that assumes their stance is 100% right, and that you're simply too dumb to understand how deep and complex the stance of "gently caress the poors" is. If someone ever busts out either gem in a debate, I'll tell them that if they supposedly know so much from their unique life experiences, then that they should be able to easily shut down my argument.
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nm posted:Cheney was capable of it though? That is basically his only redeeming feature. Did he ever support gay marriage? I don't consider a "gays are ok but they shouldn't marry" to be anything other than hollow support.
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joeburz posted:Did he ever support gay marriage? I don't consider a "gays are ok but they shouldn't marry" to be anything other than hollow support. quote:Cheney said that the situation was difficult for the family, but declined to go any further about the issue of gay marriage. “That’s as far as I’m going to go on the subject,” he said to his interviewer. “Don’t waste your time.” Unsurprisingly it seems he never said anything about it.
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Why the gently caress wouldn't mothers be allowed to take home the placenta? They loving produced it!
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:Why the gently caress wouldn't mothers be allowed to take home the placenta? They loving produced it! Possible biohazard liability maybe.
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:Why the gently caress wouldn't mothers be allowed to take home the placenta? They loving produced it! They'll eat it in a Wiccan ceremony and gain powers. Powers from Satan.
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joeburz posted:Did he ever support gay marriage? I don't consider a "gays are ok but they shouldn't marry" to be anything other than hollow support. http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Cheney-breaks-rank-on-same-sex-marriage-Vice-2730894.php
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Boywhiz88 posted:Possible biohazard liability maybe. It's this. There are many situations where the placenta must get treated as biohazard, though it isn't all the time. Of course, most mothers don't want to bother with it so it rarely becomes an issue.
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The placenta is as gross as any other bodily waste product produced by male or female bodies and wanting to take it home is weird. You could probably cook and eat a bunch of other stuff from the human body but you don't cause its gross and weird.
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Burying the placenta and planting a tree above it is a thing some people do.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:The placenta is as gross as any other bodily waste product produced by male or female bodies and wanting to take it home is weird. You could probably cook and eat a bunch of other stuff from the human body but you don't cause its gross and weird. It is gross, but more gross like organs than waste. Unless your shits are full of veins and blood.
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PUGGERNAUT posted:This is such a dumbass argument. Older relatives are always like "when you have kids, you'll understand" or "you just don't know what it's like to protect your daughter". The "when your older argument" is a way old people try to end a conversation and try to keep their self respect when they have nothing to retort with. I often just let my mother "win" with that one and try not to strangle each other over holidays. It's the only way not to implode into a black hole of infinite frustration.
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Beowulfs_Ghost posted:It is gross, but more gross like organs than waste. Unless your shits are full of veins and blood. Yeah that's a good analogy, what with people eating their own/others organs all the time, its totally normal.
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Rexicon1 posted:The "when your older argument" is a way old people try to end a conversation and try to keep their self respect when they have nothing to retort with. I often just let my mother "win" with that one and try not to strangle each other over holidays. It's the only way not to implode into a black hole of infinite frustration. Eventually you get old enough that it doesn't work. But you have to get into your 30's, have a kid and a mortgage, cut checks to pay taxes, the usual trapping of full on adulthood. It is sort of nice, because then people just agree to disagree.
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