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That's not a fair comparison at all. Bridgewater, Manziel, Bortles and hell even DEREK loving CARR are light years better than Vince Young ever was as a passer.
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Jan 2, 2014 18:17
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Why don't you like Derek Carr? I mean all of this is too early anyway. The QB shakeup doesn't happen until after the combine.
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Jan 2, 2014 18:20
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Kirios posted:That's not a fair comparison at all. Bridgewater, Manziel, Bortles and hell even DEREK loving CARR are light years better than Vince Young ever was as a passer. It's a fair comparison because you're at this point seemingly saying we need to take a QB any QB no matter what
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Jan 2, 2014 18:21
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Who do the bucs take in their slot? Mosely?
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Jan 2, 2014 18:25
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Intruder posted:It's a fair comparison because you're at this point seemingly saying we need to take a QB any QB no matter what Within reason of course. If all of the quarterbacks fall off the face of the Earth then of course Clowney's the guy (There also was a little hyperbole in my earlier comments). However, it looks like that's very unlikely to happen in which case if it's close at all then I would much, much rather them take a quarterback. Doltos posted:Why don't you like Derek Carr? I mean all of this is too early anyway. The QB shakeup doesn't happen until after the combine.
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Jan 2, 2014 18:26
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ZenVulgarity posted:Who do the bucs take in their slot? Mosely? Lovie Smith and Tedford are coming in, they're most likely going to want their own QB to groom, especially Tedford.
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Jan 2, 2014 18:26
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ZenVulgarity posted:Who do the bucs take in their slot? Mosely? Hopefully not. The Bucs are pretty well set at LB. Biggest need is a QB and pass rusher by far.
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Jan 2, 2014 18:27
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Texans should be forced to take Derek Carr in the 1st since they broke the last one
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Jan 2, 2014 18:30
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Kirios you need to chill the gently caress out, goddamn.  I'd also like to point out that the first time the Texans were truly torn over a QB or a talented defensive end, they went with the QB - David Carr. The defensive end? Julius Peppers. 
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Jan 2, 2014 18:31
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Doltos posted:Lovie Smith and Tedford are coming in, they're most likely going to want their own QB to groom, especially Tedford. So assuming Browns take JFF, maybe Bortles to Tampa Bay if he declares?
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Jan 2, 2014 18:32
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I would think Tampa might give Glennon another year, but if QB is their biggest need it just makes me angry that Schiano couldn't even tank properly.
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Jan 2, 2014 18:33
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Do Bucs fans not think Glennon is worth a drat? Not sure how he projects as far as upside but I thought he had a pretty nice year for a rookie.
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Jan 2, 2014 18:33
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computer parts posted:So assuming Browns take JFF, maybe Bortles to Tampa Bay if he declares? I'd take him but I have a feeling Bortles, JFF, and Teddy will all be gone by #7. Ozu posted:Do Bucs fans not think Glennon is worth a drat? Not sure how he projects as far as upside but I thought he had a pretty nice year for a rookie. Glennon is a backup. I really don't see him being a starter.
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Jan 2, 2014 18:34
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bhsman posted:Kirios you need to chill the gently caress out, goddamn. The only solace I have in this horrible, miserable, pathetic, yet frustratingly unforgettable season is that we may have a franchise quarterback out of the whole deal. Losing fourteen in a loving row is the worst thing in the world and this is literally the worst Texans season I have ever experienced. Dom Capers' last year was pretty pathetic too but there was no real expectation involved. The Texans were a potential SUPER BOWL PICK! This season has loving broken me and I cannot wait until the Draft. gently caress 2013 so God drat much what a horrible train wreck it's been. This is the true definition of a lost season.
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Jan 2, 2014 18:37
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Kirios on the bright side there appear to be people worth picking #1 this year, in theory it could be worse.
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Yeah at least you don't have to go LT to put at RT.
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Grittybeard posted:Kirios on the bright side there appear to be people worth picking #1 this year, in theory it could be worse. I feel super bad for Chiefs fans. You guys didn't deserve the poo poo heap at #1 that you ended up getting last year. Chiefs fans totally deserved a franchise quarterback.
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Jan 2, 2014 18:42
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The Chiefs are not allowed to win games with QBs they draft
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Kirios posted:I feel super bad for Chiefs fans. You guys didn't deserve the poo poo heap at #1 that you ended up getting last year. Chiefs fans totally deserved a franchise quarterback. We picked one up as an UDFA, we just have to let him stop being a shithead. The Aaron Rodgers Method.
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Kirios posted:The only solace I have in this horrible, miserable, pathetic, yet frustratingly unforgettable season is that we may have a franchise quarterback out of the whole deal. There's nothing that says you can only find a franchise QB in the first, however. Even if we end up with Teddy, the worst thing you can do to yourself is lock yourself into that pick for five months and then deal with the possibility that they pick someone else. So you're opening up to the idea of Manziel as your QB? Awesome. But I would look even beyond the QB position, or even a trade down.
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No Butt Stuff posted:We picked one up as an UDFA, we just have to let him stop being a shithead. The Aaron Rodgers Method. Chase Daniel was a regular FA
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Jan 2, 2014 18:51
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computer parts posted:So assuming Browns take JFF, maybe Bortles to Tampa Bay if he declares? He might be gone and is Bortles going to really be better than Glennon?
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Jan 2, 2014 18:53
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Intruder posted:Here's a really dumb article about drafting Manziel #1 overall that I hate From the sidebar there:  I agree, Houston Press. I agree.
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Anyone who thinks Derek Carr is going to suck just because he's related to David Carr needs to take a step back and see how stupid that line of thought is. He'll suck for many other reasons of course, especially if he goes to any of the lovely teams picking in the top 5.
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Jan 2, 2014 19:03
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This is something the NYPost did today.
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Arschlochkind posted:From the sidebar there: Did they purposely use the Oilers logo because it is phallic?
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Jan 2, 2014 19:14
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Ozu posted:This is something the NYPost did today. I agree with that cover. Johnny Jet for future Super Bowl MVP.
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Hand Row posted:Did they purposely use the Oilers logo because it is phallic? The first line of that article is "Twenty years ago, there were two players on the Oilers who were gay and no one cared." I meant it as a "Yeah, why are we still talking about this gay NFL?" joke. Because we suck, you see.
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Jan 2, 2014 19:22
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The Jets with JFF and Rex is too much swag to handle. Anyway, can Clowney play in a 3-4 defense? I haven't see him play in space and wouldn't it be a waste for him to be just a run stuffer?
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:Jacksonville needs to parlay that top-5 pick into like four second-rounders and two third-rounders and start building some functional depth so that when a good QB comes into town his team can withstand a couple injuries. I'd be ok with this even though the majority of the fan base would hate it, but the Redskins don't have that many picks  . I also don't think teams will throw that much away to get Clowney. I'll take solace in the fact that it's quite probable Luck will one way or another have to deal with Clowney and Watt and just enjoy every time they get through.
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himurak posted:I also don't think teams will throw that much away to get Clowney. I'll take solace in the fact that it's quite probable Luck will one way or another have to deal with Clowney and Watt and just enjoy every time they get through. What if it's Clowney and Watt?  I could see Atlanta trading up for him, though.
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computer parts posted:So assuming Browns take JFF, maybe Bortles to Tampa Bay if he declares? Depends. Bortles is a big guy and has some mobility, so he seems like a Tedford QB. Only issue is the Raiders, Jaguars, and Browns in between you and the Texans. Still, way too early for anything more than speculation at this point.
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Tampa taking a quarterback wouldn't really surprise me, but I could also easily see them rolling with Glennon for another year and taking Watkins or Mosley or one of the non-Matthews tackles, those all seem to make sense for what they need.
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Hand Row posted:Did they purposely use the Oilers logo because it is phallic? A few former Oilers came out and admitted they had some openly gay teammates in the early 90s
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Grozz Nuy posted:Tampa taking a quarterback wouldn't really surprise me, but I could also easily see them rolling with Glennon for another year and taking Watkins or Mosley or one of the non-Matthews tackles, those all seem to make sense for what they need. Right now the top ten looks like it'll be 5 or so QBs taken considering the situations in Minnesota, Jacksonville, Oakland, Tampa, St. Louis, and Houston. Also, the new rookie contracts makes it easy for teams like the Jets to abandon Geno Smith after a year. Issue with that is that it's easy to drink the poison and say that they're all taking QBs. That never happens. There are so many amazing prospects this draft outside of that position that a bunch of those teams are bound to pass on a QB. I can see Minnesota, Oakland, St. Louis, Houston, and Tampa all passing on QBs in favor of guys like Mathews, Nix, Clowney, Watkins, etc.
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Groucho Marxist posted:Chase Daniel was a regular FA 
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Grozz Nuy posted:Tampa taking a quarterback wouldn't really surprise me, but I could also easily see them rolling with Glennon for another year and taking Watkins or Mosley or one of the non-Matthews tackles, those all seem to make sense for what they need. I think Tampa should give Glennon a full year before they move on. He's shown great potential and nothing is guaranteed with this QB class.
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Doltos posted:Right now the top ten looks like it'll be 5 or so QBs taken considering the situations in Minnesota, Jacksonville, Oakland, Tampa, St. Louis, and Houston. Also, the new rookie contracts makes it easy for teams like the Jets to abandon Geno Smith after a year. I don't think the rookie contracts are a big deal there, second round pick salaries didn't actually deflate much at all. What it should do is make it easier for first rounders to get demoted but Gabbert and Ponder got three seasons each so it looks like that's not actually happening.
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