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Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

BrooklynBruiser posted:

Pacific Rim was the most enjoyable movie of 2013, and I will entirely agree that it was better than Serenity. Pacific Rim loving owns.

Nice avatar for that opinion, but I'd agree too. I love Pacific Rim because it was so drat entertaining. There are movies that are superbly made and those that are entertaining and those that actually are both. I will always go for entertaining in preferences.

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Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

IDK, I just didn't think there were characters or arcs in Pacific Rim enough for it to be memorable. You can really feel how they scrunched this movie down from the three they intended.

And more about TV stuff, I'm doing my semi-annual marathon of Better Off Ted. Really doesn't get enough credit, might be one of my favorite comedies I can think of.

Flatscan
Mar 27, 2001

Outlaw Journalist

BrooklynBruiser posted:

People expected Prometheus to be something it wasn't.

Well written?

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Serenity if the worst movie I've ever seen on HD DVD

cvnvcnv
Mar 17, 2013

__________________

Shageletic posted:

[...] I'm doing my semi-annual marathon of Better Off Ted. Really doesn't get enough credit, might be one of my favorite comedies I can think of.

:rip: funniest, most charming network comedy in ages.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

BrooklynBruiser posted:

Pacific Rim was the most enjoyable movie of 2013, and I will entirely agree that it was better than Serenity. Pacific Rim loving owns.

Also he's right that Moon is way better. So were Sunshine and The Fountain, but I think it's a bit naff to compare Serenity to any of those three, the comparison to Pac Rim is much more apt.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Mu Zeta posted:

Serenity if the worst movie I've ever seen on HD DVD
What was the worst movie on BluRay?

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Joramun posted:

The best sci-fi movies of the last five years are District 9, Inception, Looper, and Rise of the PotA.

District 9 and Looper, yes, but Inception was only good for one viewing in my experience, I have not been able to get through it a second time yet.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

precision posted:

Also he's right that Moon is way better. So were Sunshine and The Fountain, but I think it's a bit naff to compare Serenity to any of those three, the comparison to Pac Rim is much more apt.

Naff?
Pac rim?
Apt?

Use real words!

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Apt is a real word.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Man, I think I'm late to tell you guys but Showtime is replaying all three seasons of Shameless over the next three days. You should really, really watch it if you haven't. Unfortunately I think the marathon has already started but if you have a Showtime West channel maybe you could just catch the pilot. Not sure.

DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.
Holy poo poo definitely watch Shameless. If you miss season 1 that's a shame but you can jump into Season 2 tomorrow. Each season stands mostly alone, anything you miss you can pick up on pretty easily.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Counterpoint: Her, Prometheus, and District 9. I could also potentially argue a case for Transformers 3, but you lot wouldn't believe me, and it's more action than sci-fi anyways.

But go see Her.

ufarn
May 30, 2009
I love season 1 and 2 of Shameless, but getting through season 3 is the biggest slog. I doubt I'll make it in time for season 4.

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

EL BROMANCE posted:

Eric Andre was superb (James Van Der Beek episode had me in hysterics)

For my money, this was easily the best goddamn moment of the season. (Protip: if you've enjoyed Fringe or The Wire, watch this clip!)

\/\/\/ Yeah, I tried finding the full interview, but the only one I spotted was in an awful resolution with garbage audio.

claw game handjob fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jan 3, 2014

DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.
^^^ That was a loving classic but that clip cuts out the whole context of it. Reddick came out and acted like he was taking this seriously, and walked out as soon as Andre started making him uncomfortable. And then THAT happened.

What's amazing is that there's no way he came up with that on his own; somebody had to PITCH THAT to him. Even with his recent taste for absurd comedy, that's gotta be scary.

ufarn posted:

I love season 1 and 2 of Shameless, but getting through season 3 is the biggest slog. I doubt I'll make it in time for season 4.

I don't know if you dislike it or if it's just hard, but I can see the latter; some of the poo poo that went down last year was just rough. You could survive a marathon but it might shave a few years off your life.

DivisionPost fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Jan 3, 2014

baw
Nov 5, 2008

RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY
We just beasted through House of Cards, and since a huge theme of the show is unauthorized leaks, and given the anticipation surrounding upcoming series, how is poo poo about TV series not leaked more often? I remember hearing about George Lucas and the executive producer sitting down with Mark Hamill about Vader being his father, and explaining that no one else will no what Vader was actually saying during the scene, so that if there was a leak it would completely be on Mark. Nowadays these productions are so huge with so many people involved that it seems like a modern miracle that these things don't ever get leaked.

DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.
Oh, speaking of House of Cards, the episodes are now available on Netflix with commentary tracks.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


Yoshifan823 posted:

Counterpoint: Her, Prometheus, and District 9. I could also potentially argue a case for Transformers 3, but you lot wouldn't believe me, and it's more action than sci-fi anyways.

It's more garbage than action or sci-fi.

...of SCIENCE!
Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
Man, I love giant robot and kaiju movies and I thought that Pacific Rim was just OK. The action scenes were good (for every outstanding sequence like the bit in urban China where the lighting is all done by circling helicopters and it starts with boat club and ends with upper atmosphere swordfighting you get the muddled climax or half the jaegers getting unceremoniously taken out within 30 seconds of entering a fight) but roughly half the movie is boring sparring and training scenes and largely pointless subplots like Mako fighting to be accepted as a pilot (she almost kills everybody the first time she gets in the cockpit and her main contribution to the climax is passing out and needing to be rescued) or the Kaiju organ thieves.

Shageletic posted:

IDK, I just didn't think there were characters or arcs in Pacific Rim enough for it to be memorable. You can really feel how they scrunched this movie down from the three they intended.

It feels like they should have made Mako the protagonist since she's the one who undergoes the actual hero's journey and grows as a person throughout the movie while Charlie Hunnam starts as a top pilot and just kind of learns to believe in himself again. Or just made Charlie Day the main character since he was the most consistently entertaining thing in the movie and was basically an audience surrogate being a huge overenthusiastic geeky fanboy.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

DivisionPost posted:

I don't know if you dislike it or if it's just hard, but I can see the latter; some of the poo poo that went down last year was just rough. You could survive a marathon but it might shave a few years off your life.

I actually haven't finished Season 3 yet for exactly this reason. Its just hard and you have to be in the right place to watch. I'm hoping to sit down this week and finish it but its been a rough couple of weeks and I'm not sure I want that sort of emotional sink on my down time.

So if you're reading this go to Showtime or Showtime West right now and start recording Shameless. Record as many of the episodes as you can and pick them up where you can because it is easy to pick up. Frank's a prick, Fiona's a hero, the kids have issues, life sucks except when it doesn't.

Then once you record all those episodes take your time. After every episode or two play with a baby or adopt a puppy. For God sakes don't force yourself to watch 3 years of Shameless at once unless you've got a strong support system with you. Its great but its hard.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
It could be worse. We could be talking about Man of Steel.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

baw posted:

We just beasted through House of Cards, and since a huge theme of the show is unauthorized leaks, and given the anticipation surrounding upcoming series, how is poo poo about TV series not leaked more often? I remember hearing about George Lucas and the executive producer sitting down with Mark Hamill about Vader being his father, and explaining that no one else will no what Vader was actually saying during the scene, so that if there was a leak it would completely be on Mark. Nowadays these productions are so huge with so many people involved that it seems like a modern miracle that these things don't ever get leaked.

Iron clad non-disclosure agreements that promise to destroy your life if you spill? And even still, doesn't poo poo about TV shows get leaked all the time? You just have to know where to look for it. I avoid spoilers like the plague but when there's a show with a serious serial plot there always seems to be a few smug people with spoilers floating around.

baw
Nov 5, 2008

RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY
Ya, I avoid spoilers like the plague (like seriously when Axel spoils Brick in The Middle I was pissed) and that may be why I miss out on these things but anonymous leaking would really be child's play at this point so even a NDA doesn't seem too useful.

HUMAN FISH
Jul 6, 2003

I Am A Mom With A
"BLACK BELT"
In AUTISM
I Have Strengths You Can't Imagine
A couple of days late, but my personal holky gently caress moment was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFvkgfBXHPA

ufarn
May 30, 2009

DivisionPost posted:

I don't know if you dislike it or if it's just hard, but I can see the latter; some of the poo poo that went down last year was just rough. You could survive a marathon but it might shave a few years off your life.
I don't know, it's gone from feeling like heartening social-political commentary to misery porn. They clearly felt they had to up the ante, but I don't think that kind of progression and escalation makes sense for a show like Shameless.

I'll find a way to watch it by skipping through it (I think I'm at episode 7 or 8), but it's just worn me out, and not in a way I feel it's earnt.

Getting back into Breaking Bad, when it got boring (in season 2 or 3) didn't feel as taxing as Shameless; I could just absorb what went on - or didn't go on - in a passive manner, something Shameless doesn't allow me for some reason.

ufarn fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Jan 4, 2014

hope and vaseline
Feb 13, 2001

HUMAN FISH posted:

A couple of days late, but my personal holky gently caress moment was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFvkgfBXHPA

Hey B5 buddy! My moment was at the Z'ha'dum, one of my favorite season finales of any show. That moment that clicks when you realize what Sheridan's plan all along, and then Jump, jump now!

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

HUMAN FISH posted:

A couple of days late, but my personal holky gently caress moment was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFvkgfBXHPA

I don't know what the gently caress was going on here or why Babylon 5 gets any praise.

Everything about that was the opening of a bad 90's video game.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
Babylon 5's a big pile of poo poo!

CPFortest
Jun 2, 2009

Did you not pour me out like milk, and curdle me like cheese?
Babylon 5 is basically sci fi Lord of the Rings with the meta narrative of it being completely planned out from beginning to end.

For me, there's an earnestness to the show that makes it incredibly endearing in spite of the lackluster acting and hilariously low budget, but you either embrace it or you don't.

However, I don't think it's a better show than BSG, Farscape, or most of Star Trek for example, because despite the supposed planned out narrative, the other elements of the show never came together as well as in those other shows.

CPFortest fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Jan 4, 2014

HUMAN FISH
Jul 6, 2003

I Am A Mom With A
"BLACK BELT"
In AUTISM
I Have Strengths You Can't Imagine
How does it feel to have wrong opinions?

Palooka
Mar 13, 2005

MUST...WATCH...ALL...TV
So, I have a feeling I know what the answer will be in light of the last few pages, buuuuuuut…

I have Showtime free for three months and I'm thinking of bingeing through a series using Showtime Anytime (streaming). Don't have enough time to do all of them, so : internet, provide me with guidance!

Here are the choices I'm contemplating :
  • Shameless (I watched the first couple eps. last time I had Showtime, and did like it, but I'm not super big on shows that are generally about tons and tons of bad things happening to people, so I'm not sure how much I could handle)
  • Masters of Sex (haven't actually heard much talk about this, whether it's good or not? Like both the actors though)
  • Ray Donovan (did this turn around? I like Live Schreiber and I like crime dramas, but heard it wasn't great)
  • Homeland Season 3 (I really disliked how 24-ish Season 2 became, and have heard Season 3 is all over the place as well, but I liked Season 1 SO MUCH……)
Thoughts?

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

HUMAN FISH posted:

A couple of days late, but my personal holky gently caress moment was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFvkgfBXHPA

Is that Rousseau from :lost:

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Joramun posted:

Is that Rousseau from :lost:

Yep

HUMAN FISH
Jul 6, 2003

I Am A Mom With A
"BLACK BELT"
In AUTISM
I Have Strengths You Can't Imagine

Joramun posted:

Is that Rousseau from :lost:

Yes.

feller
Jul 5, 2006


Rarity posted:

It could be worse. We could be talking about Man of Steel.

I think Avatar has to be in the list of best sci fi movies

DominoDancing
Apr 26, 2008

Each morning after Sunblest
Feel the benefit
Mental arithmetic

Palooka posted:

Here are the choices I'm contemplating :
  • Homeland Season 3 (I really disliked how 24-ish Season 2 became, and have heard Season 3 is all over the place as well, but I liked Season 1 SO MUCH……)
Thoughts?

I'd say go for it! I'm not gonna lie and tell you that it ever gets as good as Season 1 again, and the start of Season is pretty rough. But it builds towards a conclusion I found very satisfying. The AV Club seems to agree with me on that, if that way of arguing can convince you. For whats it's worth, the 24-ishness is still there to some degree, but it's massively turned down compared to the second half of Season 2.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



DivisionPost posted:

What's amazing is that there's no way he came up with that on his own; somebody had to PITCH THAT to him. Even with his recent taste for absurd comedy, that's gotta be scary.

Half of the enjoyment of the show is trying to work out who is in on what. Sometimes the interviews are obviously chopped up so they're not answering the question you just heard, sometimes they're obviously in on it the whole time, sometimes you think they're not in on it but they do something ludicrous at the end so you think 'ok I guess they were' then sometimes, like the Mel B one, she just seems completely oblivious to what she's just been part of and there didn't seem to be much in the way of editing tricks. Mel B has never come across as a good actress before, we've all seen Spice World.

And who the gently caress is Russell Brand?!

Mahlertov Cocktail
Mar 1, 2010

I ate your Mahler avatar! Hahahaha!

Omelette du Fromage posted:

I think Avatar has to be in the list of best sci fi movies

Nah. Best special effects? Yes. Best of any type of movie? Absolutely not.

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DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.

ufarn posted:

I don't know, it's gone from feeling like heartening social-political commentary to misery porn. They clearly felt they had to up the ante, but I don't think that kind of progression and escalation makes sense for a show like Shameless.

I'll find a way to watch it by skipping through it (I think I'm at episode 7 or 8), but it's just worn me out, and not in a way I feel it's earnt.

Getting back into Breaking Bad, when it got boring (in season 2 or 3) didn't feel as taxing as Shameless; I could just absorb what went on - or didn't go on - in a passive manner, something Shameless doesn't allow me for some reason.

For what it's worth, the season ends with things looking way up for Fiona and by turn the rest of the family.

Palooka posted:

  • Shameless (I watched the first couple eps. last time I had Showtime, and did like it, but I'm not super big on shows that are generally about tons and tons of bad things happening to people, so I'm not sure how much I could handle)

In the third season of Shameless, something terrible was about to happen to The Gallaghers, but the crisis was averted by some quick thinking by a key character. She later tells people: "I got molested and it all worked out! :haw:"

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