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Eh, the dog is cute, so for that reason alone I'll call this The Best Liberal Logic Ever. Also, his little falling equal/non-equal sign in the bottom right is funny both on it's own, as an an admission that they think all that Created Equal stuff in the Declaration of Independence was a bunch of bullshit.
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Oh it's my favorite funny image macro, false equivalency raptor.
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By that logic, increasing the estate tax will increase life expectancy because it discourages dying.
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And sales taxes discourage buying things other than non-taxed essentials, gas taxes discourage driving, and payroll taxes discourage working even more. Meanwhile, the capital gains discount subsidizes leeching off hard-working citizens. Or have we made the point that not all taxes and subsidies serve the same purpose?
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ratbert90 posted:Executive orders from a black man bad. quote:Muslims == Violent *lies about the above statement while making even more generalizations*
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How come they get to declare a fatwa on people who offend them but I can't? It's not fair! I wanna declare a fatwa but the stupid media and stupid America and stupid Jesus won't let me grumble grumble 
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Jan 5, 2014 20:08
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Some christians scare the poo poo out of me and I'm almost a wasp (some catholics in my line).
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nm posted:Some christians scare the poo poo out of me and I'm almost a wasp (some catholics in my line). Just the thought that some Protestants believe that anyone who doesn't guess the right religion and the right God will burn in hell for eternity, and that it's not only inevitable but just, and right, and good that the vast majority of humanity was created to be tortured endlessly kinda creeps me out. Even back in my Protestant days, I was a universalist heretic because I secretly couldn't bring myself to believe that salvation after death is impossible.
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VitalSigns posted:Just the thought that some Protestants believe that anyone who doesn't guess the right religion and the right God will burn in hell for eternity, and that it's not only inevitable but just, and right, and good that the vast majority of humanity was created to be tortured endlessly kinda creeps me out. That's not even touching the hosed-up version of sola scriptura that occurs in some parts of American Protestantism, especially the modern Evangelical sects, where they literally believe that even historical context or corrected translations (how they love their KJV) are violations of the faith. This sometimes goes to the lengths of telling followers that questioning the teachings of a preacher, even when he's completely incorrect on the teachings of the Bible, is Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, an unforgivable sin, and will condemn you straight to hell unless you repent now. I've personally seen one that said that denouncing his teachings was an automatic one-way ticket to damnation, no take-backsies, because (according to him) that kind of blasphemy cannot be repented for even in life. Then again, so much of the Evangelical movement is so far removed from the Gospels, you might as well call them Levitico-Paulites rather than Christians.
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Kugyou no Tenshi posted:That's not even touching the hosed-up version of sola scriptura that occurs in some parts of American Protestantism, especially the modern Evangelical sects, where they literally believe that even historical context or corrected translations (how they love their KJV) are violations of the faith. This sometimes goes to the lengths of telling followers that questioning the teachings of a preacher, even when he's completely incorrect on the teachings of the Bible, is Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, an unforgivable sin, and will condemn you straight to hell unless you repent now. I've personally seen one that said that denouncing his teachings was an automatic one-way ticket to damnation, no take-backsies, because (according to him) that kind of blasphemy cannot be repented for even in life. "God blessed His Holy Word in English"  
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This is historically incorrect, right? I feel like an idiot for even asking if a Chick tract has factual errors but I don't know my bible history.
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Are there officially blessed translations into other languages?
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VideoTapir posted:Are there officially blessed translations into other languages? Don't be silly, God doesn't speak those barbarian languages.
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VitalSigns posted:"God blessed His Holy Word in English" Chick is totally batshit crazy about Catholics though so you can generally assume anything by him about the Vatican is horse crap on some level. The conspiracy about the apocrypha is pretty dumb anyway, it's not some attempt to hide secrets or something, most of them are just of more dubious authenticity than the books that did make it into the Bible (And that's saying a lot). It's like accusing Tolkien of hiding Lord of the Rings fan fiction and not putting those in the appendixes. VideoTapir posted:Are there officially blessed translations into other languages? Depends on who's authority you're asking. The Catholic Church does have official translations it uses in Mass in every country it practices in. Protestant sects are often more divisive, since they might be lacking a centralized authority. RagnarokAngel fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Jan 6, 2014 |
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VideoTapir posted:Are there officially blessed translations into other languages? They've even gone as far as to customize a few for other races, though the depictions of them get a bit worrisome. For example, here's a page from the Chinese version of This Was Your Life.  And there's now one called "Your Best Life," which is apparently This Was Your Life but with a Muslim protagonist, so you can tell Muslims as well as non-Evangelical Christians that God doesn't give a poo poo if you've been a good person, and is only interested in whether or not you're best buds with Jesus.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Chick is totally batshit crazy about Catholics though
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How do they manage to make something look so shopped in black and white?
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Guavanaut posted:Even that is kind of an understatement. Chick believes that Catholics worship Mary, and also a Sun God who is Ba'al, and every Catholic owes their loyalty to the Vatican State first and foremost, and their home nation second, and most Catholics are unaware of this because they are baptized before they are old enough to believe, so even though they think they are praying to Jesus and the same Abrahamic God as other Christians, the Pope is somehow able to channel all of this belief to his Sun-god Ba'al, possibly through his magic hat. Chick based all of his views on Catholics on the work of "ex-Catholic priest" Alberto Rivera. Rivera claimed to be a Jesuit priest who was sent around the world to damage and destroy Protestant churches on orders from the Vatican. However, because of Jesus he was able to renounce his evil ways and escape the clutches of the Catholic church. He also claims the Catholic Church created communism, Islam and Nazism. As well as being behind both world wars and numerous assassinations. In reality Rivera was a conman and a fraud and his version of his life story is full of holes contradicted by many public records.
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I just had this show up on my wall.  The Libertarian Eye.
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The math kind of breaks down when you realize not one of those 2 million employees is working 8 hours every single day of the year. Many are part timers, and even full timers cap out around 40 hours a week(many are, sadly, more than that but that's the expected amount). If they're counting executives and such, they wouldn't see a raise because they're paid by salary, not hourly wages, so they don't factor in either. I don't even know how good these numbers are since it doesn't cite a thing. Plus if you're paying them more, they will buy more. Most likely from Wal Mart since they work there anyway, they can do their grocery shopping right after work and save a trip, so the money would go right back into them anyway. RagnarokAngel fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Jan 6, 2014 |
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Wal-mart also only employs 1.4 million in the United States.
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prahanormal posted:I just had this show up on my wall. Excuse me, Mr. Giant Eye, sir, I have a question. Is this too small a violin to play when Wal-Mart goes out of business?
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CoolZidane posted:Excuse me, Mr. Giant Eye, sir, I have a question. Is this too small a violin to play when Wal-Mart goes out of business? We may not cry about the executives but there are a crapload of people who are working there because they have no alternative options. I despise walmart, I really do, but if they go out of business tomorrow it's not the executives who are going to suffer, they have enough money to keep going.
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I know the famous Berkeley brief probably isn't adored by right-wingers, but it seemed pretty solid last time I read it. Their analysis said increasing WalMart's minimum pay to $12/hr would cost their average consumer $12.49 yearly, if they passed on every single expense to the consumers. http://laborcenter.berkeley.edu/retail/bigbox_livingwage_policies11.pdf http://laborcenter.berkeley.edu/research/walmart.shtml That's a lot more believable than some libertarian macro which begins with incorrect figures and only gets less believable as it proceeds. It's like a dumber version of Papa John, literal castle dweller with a moat, complaining about a price hike of $0.20 per order to pay for employee healthcare.
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Just walk into your boss's office with that trusty handgun and demand to be paid as much as the men!
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I did some napkin math. Obviously you should use actual research instead of this. They have 2.2 million employees worldwide. Obviously that number isn't the right one. I found a resource that says that there's 1.3 million in the US, of which about 475,000 make more than 25K a year. That leaves 825000 that I estimate make $8.85 an hour. Giving only them a raise to $15 gives a much more manageable figure of around $10 billion. That doesn't take into consideration any additional spending from the employees, tax savings, price increases etc.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:This is historically incorrect, right? I feel like an idiot for even asking if a Chick tract has factual errors but I don't know my bible history. It's ridiculously incorrect. In fact, King James and the Puritans did not get along well at all, and apparently King James wanted to limit the amount of Puritan influence on the KJV. This was done by eliminating notes in the margins, as well as translating certain words to be more favorable to the Church of England (such as "church" instead of "congregation"). Because of this, the Puritans actually favored the Geneva Bible. I'm not sure if there's any hard evidence of what translation the Puritans took to New England, but given that one of the reasons they came over here was to get away from the Church of England, it seems pretty unlikely that they'd use the translation that the CoE favored and would probably have taken Geneva Bibles.
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I found this quote, re: The Religious Right, and I pray that it's real. “I don’t want to see religious bigotry in any form. It would disturb me if there was a wedding between the religious fundamentalists and the political right. The hard right has no interest in religion except to manipulate it.” Billy Graham–American Evangelist (Parade, 1981)
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FuzzySkinner posted:I found this quote, re: The Religious Right, and I pray that it's real. Wouldn't be to surprising actually. Billy Graham is super conservative personally, but he has tried to stay publicly non-political. He is all about preaching and Jesus. There has actually been some people saying that his more recent endorsement of the NC amendment banning same sex marriage were his shitheel son Franklin taking advantage of him now that he has cancer and Parkinson's disease. Especially since he said this: quote:At a San Francisco Crusade in 1997 Billy Graham stated: “There are other sins. Why do we jump on that sin [homosexuality] as though it’s the greatest sin? … What I want to preach about in San Francisco is the love of God. People need to know that God loves them no matter what their ethnic background or sexual orientation. I have so many gay friends, and we remain friends.”
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Sir Rolo posted:
I know we're all supposed to think "Oh, right, the government holds us in such contempt and thinks we're all idiots", but...any group of taxpayers that was capable of coming to and enacting a rational decision regarding the dispensation of enough funding to actually create or maintain infrastructure would be acting as a government-like entity. Because taxpayers aren't good at "dealing with companies" beyond retail poo poo, and especially not on that kind of project, with the amount of research and oversight that has to go into it. Libertopia is still the stupidest country. 
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I did some napkin math. Obviously you should use actual research instead of this. I think I would also like to have the total cost their employees have to rely on public services and assistance deducted from the companies gross profits.
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Sir Rolo posted:
Yeah, it would be loving awesome if private companies had the power to sieze land and create easements over land without an intervening body representing the rule of law. Smooth sailing.
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"Women have benefeited hugely from guns" - A man.
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Kugyou no Tenshi posted:I know we're all supposed to think "Oh, right, the government holds us in such contempt and thinks we're all idiots", but...any group of taxpayers that was capable of coming to and enacting a rational decision regarding the dispensation of enough funding to actually create or maintain infrastructure would be acting as a government-like entity. Because taxpayers aren't good at "dealing with companies" beyond retail poo poo, and especially not on that kind of project, with the amount of research and oversight that has to go into it. While I don't watch Family Guy much anymore, there was one recent episode that nailed this. The Tea Party took over Quahog and they abolished the local government, and predictably everything turned to poo poo. Eventually, Peter proposed that they create a system of mutually agreed upon rules, enforced by public servants elected on a regular basis, and paid for by contributions from every person based on their wealth. They all agree, and Peter brags that they did it all "without any government."
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Kugyou no Tenshi posted:I know we're all supposed to think "Oh, right, the government holds us in such contempt and thinks we're all idiots", but...any group of taxpayers that was capable of coming to and enacting a rational decision regarding the dispensation of enough funding to actually create or maintain infrastructure would be acting as a government-like entity. Because taxpayers aren't good at "dealing with companies" beyond retail poo poo, and especially not on that kind of project, with the amount of research and oversight that has to go into it. It's even better because, at least where I live, the government DOES build the roads and maintain them. I very rarely see private companies doing any road work.
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Sir Rolo posted:
Sure, let's do this. Of course then since it's not land that the company owns, the people will have to agree where and how to build them. I guess they'll then have to get someone to represent the people since the company can't work efficiently with the entire group of people shouting at them. Maybe the people could take a vote on who would do that, or how the road gets built. Then pool their money to pay the company. We don't need no government!
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