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sean10mm posted:It's a limited production novelty, and practicality and where it fits in the market are basically non-issues. They're planning on making like 1,000 a year for a couple years and will sell every one of them without any effort. still not as fast as a GT- 
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sean10mm posted:As far as its utility as a track toy, the thing is faster around the Nurburgring than a 911 Carerra S or a LFA. With part of the lap in the rain. I've seen so many "It's all the tires  " posts that it isn't funny.
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Jan 6, 2014 17:37
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Seat Safety Switch posted:We'd still have one if we didn't knock it down to build lovely one-off tract housing for the illegitimate spawn of oil workers. So true. And then the cops wonder why there's so many Lamborghinis and Porsches being driven at insane speeds on the surrounding secondary highways... honestly, it seems like racetracks are practically a public service, since they help to massively reduce the appeal of street racing.
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sean10mm posted:It's a limited production novelty, and practicality and where it fits in the market are basically non-issues. They're planning on making like 1,000 a year for a couple years and will sell every one of them without any effort. ya, plus from a fixed cost standpoint, tooling and production, I doubt it costs more than a rounding error to pump one of these out once every 10,000 cars. Maybe theres more handwork, due to scale, but 75,000 takes care of that pretty quickly.
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Jan 6, 2014 18:44
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Linedance posted:still not as fast as a GT- It is quite a bit cheaper though.
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angryhampster posted:And there's not a track with turns that go both ways within 200mi of me. Thanks a lot, Iowa. Come up to BIR.
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PT6A posted:So true. And then the cops wonder why there's so many Lamborghinis and Porsches being driven at insane speeds on the surrounding secondary highways... honestly, it seems like racetracks are practically a public service, since they help to massively reduce the appeal of street racing. Edmonton actually has a pretty good Raceway south of the city called Castrol Raceway. It has a 1/4 mile drag strip, a dirt oval for sprint cars and last year they opened up a 2.7km road course that looks pretty decent. We have Edmonton Intl Raceway as well which has a 1/4 mile paved oval. I haven't been but it seems alright. We've got a couple off road parks which I haven't been to but a lot of people have good things to say about them. So if you're willing to make the 3 hour drive north there's some pretty good amateur driving spots up here. I'd suggest coming up for the Edmonton Indy and making use of Castrol. The Indy is always a good time.
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sean10mm posted:It is quite a bit cheaper though. oh drat, you're right! Why did I think the GT-R was around $70k?
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Linedance posted:oh drat, you're right! Why did I think the GT-R was around $70k? Because it was at one point. the 08 was $69,500, The 09 was $76,840, the 10 was $80,790. In 2011 they dropped the base model which had the effect of raising the price to $85,060. In 2012 they raised the price to $90,950, and again in 2013 to $96,820, and again in 2014 to $99,590. Nissan marketers must be on the most wonderful of drugs. Samu posted:Edmonton actually has a pretty good Raceway south of the city called Castrol Raceway. It has a 1/4 mile drag strip, a dirt oval for sprint cars and last year they opened up a 2.7km road course that looks pretty decent. Mission raceway in BC is also a short little 9 hour drive each way. if you take highay 3, the drive is almost as fun as the track. Powershift fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jan 6, 2014 |
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Powershift posted:Because it was at one point. the 08 was $69,500, The 09 was $76,840, the 10 was $80,790. In 2011 they dropped the base model which had the effect of raising the price to $85,060. In 2012 they raised the price to $90,950, and again in 2013 to $96,820, and again in 2014 to $99,590. Its actually rather clever because people still mostyl remember the super-low original price, and since the whole exercise was always supposed to be more marketing exercise / halo car than actual seller it saves some money.
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Linedance posted:oh drat, you're right! Why did I think the GT-R was around $70k? You can still pick up a lightly used model for around $55-60,000 and use the leftover cash to make it faster and more aggressive for the track. The thing about the Z28 is that it was designed for Americans who want a fast American car to take to their local American track and beat-up on some imports. Just to reiterate IOC, they will all sell quickly. Also, Chevrolet HAS to put something out to counter the Boss 302 Mustang Laguna Seca.
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Not sure if anyone's interested in safety tests here, but I'm pretty happy the new Mazda 3 got "Good" across the board for all its tests, including the new small overlap. I refuse to buy a deathtrap and I would have been gutted if this sexy beast performed poorly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guUdsQMdh4I
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Devyl posted:You can still pick up a lightly used model for around $55-60,000 and use the leftover cash to make it faster and more aggressive for the track. The thing about the Z28 is that it was designed for Americans who want a fast American car to take to their local American track and beat-up on some imports. Just to reiterate IOC, they will all sell quickly. Also, Chevrolet HAS to put something out to counter the Boss 302 Mustang Laguna Seca. Isn't the 1LE as fast or faster than the Laguna Seca? I'm pretty sure the Z28 is a completely different level than any of the other pony car variants.
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a primate posted:Not sure if anyone's interested in safety tests here, but I'm pretty happy the new Mazda 3 got "Good" across the board for all its tests, including the new small overlap. I refuse to buy a deathtrap and I would have been gutted if this sexy beast performed poorly. That's good. Over the past 10 years it seems like Mazda has really proven themselves to be a first rate manufacturer overall.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:We'd still have one if we didn't knock it down to build lovely one-off tract housing for the illegitimate spawn of oil workers. Haha, actually, the former location of Race City is where part of the current 114th ave/Stoney Trail interchange is sitting. They had to shift 114th ave south to connect up with the ring road and it went right where the north portion of the track was. I drive that route every day to/from work and got to slowly watch as our race track was slowly demolished. The worst part was that Race City was only 5 minutes from my office so it was extremely convenient when I'd break something on the car while cutting laps at a HDPE....I could limp it back to the shop, wrench on it for abit, then hopefully get my rear end back to the track.
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Samu posted:Edmonton actually has a pretty good Raceway south of the city called Castrol Raceway. It has a 1/4 mile drag strip, a dirt oval for sprint cars and last year they opened up a 2.7km road course that looks pretty decent. drat, I could definitely stand to spend some time on a road course on my bike. Preferably in a class. Every time the Herald has an article about the new racetrack that's been approved up by Crossiron Mills, my heart sinks when I remember they mean "horse racetrack".
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Phy posted:drat, I could definitely stand to spend some time on a road course on my bike. Preferably in a class. Because ponoka is too far to travel for horse racing. You could have gone to stratotech with the bike, but unfortunately 2013 was their last season.
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fknlo posted:Isn't the 1LE as fast or faster than the Laguna Seca? I'm pretty sure the Z28 is a completely different level than any of the other pony car variants. Depending on the driver and track, they split a .5-1 second win over the other on the course. However, this is traditional Chevy/Ford rivalry. Now Ford will prep a Mustang to beat the Camaro and sell it in the same price range. This isn't anything new to those of us who follow drag racing; like the COPO & Cobra Jet rivalry. The first newer Cobra Jet was dominating the drag strip with the supercharged 5.4. Then Chevy came out with the COPO Camaro to try & compete against Ford. The COPO has been laying some pretty impressive numbers going back and forth with wins against the Cobra Jet. Now that Ford realized their spot could be taken, the 2014 CJ has switched from the dated 5.4 to the new 5.0 with a 2.9 liter supercharger on top putting out 575 hp. Of course, you also have to remember that a lot of Americans aren't really into racing on the track yet; it's something we're just starting to warm up to. So seeing the Ford/Chevy rivalry getting to track-oriented cars is a really good thing. Also the price of the Z28 is cheap. a New CJ or COPO will usually set you back around $100,000+ depending on how you want it prepped.
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DropShadow posted:Come up to BIR. I've heard it's a nice track, but still 500mi from me. Road America is only about 300.
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Powershift posted:Because ponoka is too far to travel for horse racing. Do we have enough SAB people to start our own AI club thread and IRC channel yet? PT6A is surely tired of being the whipping boy for the Canadian politics thread.
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The closest tracks for me with both left and right turns are Sonoma and Thunderhill, both about an hour and a half away.
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a primate posted:Not sure if anyone's interested in safety tests here, but I'm pretty happy the new Mazda 3 got "Good" across the board for all its tests, including the new small overlap. I refuse to buy a deathtrap and I would have been gutted if this sexy beast performed poorly. I just bought one of these in a hatchback with 6-sp auto, and it is a great car, especially since ~22k buys you all the fancy electronic toys (minus giant distracting nav screen). Sales guy seemed to have a lot of fun with the manual, too.
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Orlando sucks for motorsports. There's CFRC when it's not in legal limbo, and Orlando Speed World, which has a There's Daytona and Sebring, which are 1 and 2 hours away, but Daytona is an oval and Sebring is a long-rear end tow home if something breaks.
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norton I posted:I just bought one of these in a hatchback with 6-sp auto, and it is a great car, especially since ~22k buys you all the fancy electronic toys (minus giant distracting nav screen). Test drove the 3 hatch versus the Focus for the next leased car we will get and the Mazda blows the Focus away in every area. That dual clutch transmission in the Focus is loving awful and the tech package is so much better in the Mazda for less money.
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So GM accidentally leaked the Z06 power numbers in their metatags.code:
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IOwnCalculus posted:So GM accidentally leaked the Z06 power numbers in their metatags. I'll hand over my balls at the end of this post, but holy poo poo this is just absurd. So many old dudes are going to die.
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dreesemonkey posted:So many old dudes are going to die. 
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I may be out of date on this, but wouldn't that take the title of the highest power production NA V8? Edit: Nm, I didn't realize it was supercharged.
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dreesemonkey posted:I'll hand over my balls at the end of this post, but holy poo poo this is just absurd. It's a pretty merciful way of killing them off. Also, the ones that survive will no longer be able to get all misty eyed about the factory muscle cars of yesteryear.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:I may be out of date on this, but wouldn't that take the title of the highest power production NA V8? Even if it was n/a, the Viper still has 640.
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Devyl posted:Even if it was n/a, the Viper still has 640. Viper is V10 not V8.
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It sure is, but it still holds the title of highest n/a hp rating of a production car.
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dreesemonkey posted:I'll hand over my balls at the end of this post, but holy poo poo this is just absurd. I hope they die from fright and their Z06's slowly roll to a stop so their widows can put them on ebay. Reminds me of that Nick Swardson bit about old people dying and grandma flipping her vette.
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Devyl posted:It sure is, but it still holds the title of highest n/a hp rating of a production car. I thought that was the Ferrari F12 at 730hp with it's V12?
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Devyl posted:It sure is, but it still holds the title of highest n/a hp rating of a production car. I'm curious, when you replied to DB did you actually read the post that you quoted? edit: Also, the whole F12 issue that's been so helpfully pointed out.
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Morphix posted:I thought that was the Ferrari F12 at 730hp with it's V12? Yeah, you're right. Q_res posted:I'm curious, when you replied to DB did you actually read the post that you quoted? I missed the V8 part 
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Morphix posted:I thought that was the Ferrari F12 at 730hp with it's V12? The Ferarri LaFerrari has a 789HP naturally aspirated V12 (before adding another 161HP in electric). The Viper does hold largest displacement though.
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Shin-chan posted:The Viper does hold largest displacement though.
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