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dalstrs
Mar 11, 2004

At least this way my kill will have some use
Dinosaur Gum

Interlude posted:

Someone needs to compile that post a bunch of pages back, with the photos of how horrible these diseases are, into some kind of webpage. People really have no idea.

Yes, i spent a lot of time looking for a page like that.

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PerniciousKnid
Sep 13, 2006

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I want to make a page like that, but in the style of "The truth about Vaccination that THEY don't want you to know about," followed by tons of factual information about disease and vaccines but consistently in that crazy conspiracy theory style.
Check out this father of three's UNBELIEVABLE cure for polio that really works!

Dyz
Dec 10, 2010

dalstrs posted:

I was going on with a couple of people on facebook about stupid anti-vaccine poo poo then had this golden exchange pop up. For reference Cody has had some community college, which happens to be in the same district that Don teaches some classes in.



There's nothing funnier than watching someone call someone else "ignotate"

Mo_Steel posted:

A blast from the past hit my Facebook today:


A response from ye olde LF:


The old stories never die, they return fresh and new again, forever.

The first time I read this I thought it was going to be about socialism and how Steve has to do all the work while people get free handouts in the form of donuts.

But nope, it's about a professor lecturing students about hating a required class for Christianity. Because if you practice a different religion gently caress you.

Dyz fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Jan 9, 2014

e_angst
Sep 20, 2001

by exmarx

Flaggy posted:

Got a good one today:


Because communism is socialism I guess.

Apparently there was a communist professor at UT in the years I was there that did something like this. Only the grades weren't just averaged the students resources and studying was collectivized. Basically everyone was encouraged to share notes on work and lectures, and they were even allowed to copy off of each other for tests and homework. In the end everyone got an A because it was easier to work that way, the students who were trying really hard could rely on one another for help with answers they were having a hard time with, and no one minded when the slackers copied off of them because hey, why be an rear end in a top hat about it when we're all copying at least some stuff?

Damnit, now I'm gonna have to look this guy up because it sounds like I'm spreading an urban legend, but I distinctly remember hearing about this class in 2000 from a guy in my dorm who had taken it sometime in the late 90s.

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!
I had a law school professor who allowed open books open notes on the test. He still had to grade on the curve though, so it actually made people more upset when they got over a 90% and a D.

FuzzySkinner
May 23, 2012

e_angst posted:

Apparently there was a communist professor at UT in the years I was there that did something like this. Only the grades weren't just averaged the students resources and studying was collectivized. Basically everyone was encouraged to share notes on work and lectures, and they were even allowed to copy off of each other for tests and homework. In the end everyone got an A because it was easier to work that way, the students who were trying really hard could rely on one another for help with answers they were having a hard time with, and no one minded when the slackers copied off of them because hey, why be an rear end in a top hat about it when we're all copying at least some stuff?

Damnit, now I'm gonna have to look this guy up because it sounds like I'm spreading an urban legend, but I distinctly remember hearing about this class in 2000 from a guy in my dorm who had taken it sometime in the late 90s.

I had a few classes like that at my school. One of the professors was even fairly right wing, but his theory was "In the real world, you're not going to have be cut off from resources in the work place, so why bother keeping this up?". Which is correct.

I don't recall any bad experiences or anything similar in nature to what that "story" is talking about. Generally everyone did quite well.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

FuzzySkinner posted:

I had a few classes like that at my school. One of the professors was even fairly right wing, but his theory was "In the real world, you're not going to have be cut off from resources in the work place, so why bother keeping this up?". Which is correct.

I don't recall any bad experiences or anything similar in nature to what that "story" is talking about. Generally everyone did quite well.

It really makes zero sense how the entire education system is founded on individual meritocracy. All it does is discourage teamwork and communication, which are basic necessities of having a successful adult professional life.

Dyz
Dec 10, 2010

mr. mephistopheles posted:

It really makes zero sense how the entire education system is founded on individual meritocracy. All it does is discourage teamwork and communication, which are basic necessities of having a successful adult professional life.

Engineering courses are usually the opposite of this, as many classes require very basic design projects with a team.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Gun chat on miataturbo, guy has this as his last statement:

quote:

Still, it's an interesting idea. We (WASPs), are pre-conditioned from birth to fear large, scary black things. (giggle emoticon)

:stare:

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
I have read that they've done studies where everyone receives the same average grade. You do have both cooperators and defectors. Most people work really hard to increase their own performance as well as helping people who aren't as smart or who don't have the same access to study materials. As long as there are only a small number of defectors, the cooperators just work harder to keep the whole class afloat, frequently the defectors were shamed into cooperation.

I assume that if there are too many defectors, things will collapse. If 45% of the class doesn't even show up to the final, the other 55% can't pass the class even if they get 100%.

This same situation plays out in floating mold colonies. Some mold produces a slime that keeps the colony afloat, some don't. If too much mold fails to produce slime, the whole colony sinks and dies.

So there's obviously risks and rewards to the communal approach. It's not doomed necessarily but failures will occur. I think as a society we've invested a lot of time and energy into improving "dog-eat-dog" systems. We've got hierarchies and all sorts of manipulative systems to keep order. I think if communal systems received that same kind of investment, we'd be really good at it by now.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

quote:

She Did It Again !!! W O W ! Australia says NO -- This will be the second Time Julia Gillard has done this! She sure isn't backing down on her hard line stance and one has to appreciate her belief in the rights of her native countrymen. A breath of fresh air to see someone lead with guts and determination. Australian Prime Minister does it again!! The whole world needs a leader like this! Prime Minister Julia Gillard - Australia Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. Separately, Gillard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying she supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT... Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.' 'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.' 'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language!' 'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you,then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.' 'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.' 'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.' 'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country that accepted you.' NOTE: IF we circulate this amongst ourselves in Canada & USA, WE will find the courage to start speaking and voicing the same truths. If you agree please SEND THIS ON and ON, to as many people as you know...

I just left a Snopes link as a comment.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/likeitorleaveit.asp

The funny thing is, the guy who posted it isn't even Australia, and it doesn't look like he's living in Australia either (which would make it extra ironic if he was the immigrant)

Bates
Jun 15, 2006

dalstrs posted:

Yes, i spent a lot of time looking for a page like that.

I'm bored at work so I hacked something together in notepad http://www.error40.dk/ Needs orignal text, a web designer and more horror but it'll do if you just want to throw pictures at people.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

e_angst posted:

Apparently there was a communist professor at UT in the years I was there that did something like this. Only the grades weren't just averaged the students resources and studying was collectivized. Basically everyone was encouraged to share notes on work and lectures, and they were even allowed to copy off of each other for tests and homework. In the end everyone got an A because it was easier to work that way, the students who were trying really hard could rely on one another for help with answers they were having a hard time with, and no one minded when the slackers copied off of them because hey, why be an rear end in a top hat about it when we're all copying at least some stuff?

Damnit, now I'm gonna have to look this guy up because it sounds like I'm spreading an urban legend, but I distinctly remember hearing about this class in 2000 from a guy in my dorm who had taken it sometime in the late 90s.

While these things sound neat, it's not clear that they were accomplishing anything pedagogically. Was the collectivism more effective educationally? Because I'd think that's still the desired outcome, and all you've done there is made your education measure useless.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

Discendo Vox posted:

While these things sound neat, it's not clear that they were accomplishing anything pedagogically. Was the collectivism more effective educationally? Because I'd think that's still the desired outcome, and all you've done there is made your education measure useless.

The people learned to work with other people to solve a problem which is more important than whatever material they were memorizing for a test.

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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gradenko_2000 posted:

I just left a Snopes link as a comment.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/likeitorleaveit.asp

The funny thing is, the guy who posted it isn't even Australia, and it doesn't look like he's living in Australia either (which would make it extra ironic if he was the immigrant)

Gillard hasn't even been our Prime Minister for almost a year now, either. You'd think they'd be nice enough to update the thing to reflect the current person they're pretending is saying it.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe
They'd literally be posting gay fanfiction about Tony Abbott, were they able to learn who he was and that he'd been elected.

Foyes36
Oct 23, 2005

Food fight!

gradenko_2000 posted:

The funny thing is, the guy who posted it isn't even Australia, and it doesn't look like he's living in Australia either (which would make it extra ironic if he was the immigrant)

It's sometimes nice to know that other countries have to put up with this sort of right wing xenophobic bullshit too.

Defenestration
Aug 10, 2006

"It wasn't my fault that my first unconscious thought turned out to be-"
"Jesus, kid, what?"
"That something smelled delicious!"


Grimey Drawer

Anosmoman posted:

I'm bored at work so I hacked something together in notepad http://www.error40.dk/ Needs orignal text, a web designer and more horror but it'll do if you just want to throw pictures at people.

put this painting in the tetanus section http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Opisthotonus_in_a_patient_suffering_from_tetanus_-_Painting_by_Sir_Charles_Bell_-_1809.jpg

Hulk Krogan
Mar 25, 2005



Not an email, but a friend of mine posted a video of Rand Paul's speech objecting Janet Yellen's confirmation on facebook and started going on about hyperinflation and auditing the fed and yadda yadda. I have a decent grasp of all the ways in which Paul the Lesser is full of poo poo but specifically, in this video, he claims that the dollar has lost 97% of its value in the last 100 years.

That smells like bullshit to me but I'm having trouble finding a specific rebuttal of it. Help a brother out?

Edit: It's this video, in case anyone feels like spending 20 minutes listening to utter bullshit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-chuEeBhsdo

Hulk Krogan fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Jan 9, 2014

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!
In the past 100 years, sure. That would be 1 dollar today equaling 33.33 dollars in old timey money. The question is, so what? 100 years is a long time for such a change to happen.

ultimateforce
Apr 25, 2008

SKINNY JEANS CANT HOLD BACK THIS ARC
Just going to leave this one here:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/five-economic-reforms-millennials-should-be-fighting-for-20140103

The comments are already amazing, so this might be hitting Facebook soon.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
Yea 100 years ago every system of money was 'worth more', smaller population, lack of industrial infrastructure and a focus on rural life, a dollar or a pound or a franc or whatever would buy you a lot.

What does it matter, is the rebuttal to that. Inflation is a problem if it happens rapidly. If, say, in a year the dollar lost massive amounts of value it'd be a problem because no one has time to compensate for that poo poo. Over a century? poo poo works out, I can't buy a loaf of bread for a nickle, but that's cool, the market has adjusted for that and I can still buy one for a small amount of money, and that's the point.

peak debt
Mar 11, 2001
b& :(
Nap Ghost
Imagine if that hadn't been the case. You'd still have the Rockefeller and Carnegie estates controlling much of the world's economy.
Moderate inflation is a positive thing, it discharges personal debts, encourages spending, makes dynasties harder to keep alive etc.
Or think about it another way, why should we encourage somebody hiding their money under a mattress in 1913 and not taking it out again until now. What possible benefit to society would that produce.

Person Dyslexic
Jul 23, 2007
It was a page or two, but the images that instantly cause me to want to punch faces always, always have Ben Stein in them. I loving hate his smug douche-bag face to begin with, but anytime someone pretends he is an expert on anything and attributes some, "common sense saying" to him I just see red.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

peak debt posted:

Imagine if that hadn't been the case. You'd still have the Rockefeller and Carnegie estates controlling much of the world's economy.
Moderate inflation is a positive thing, it discharges personal debts, encourages spending, makes dynasties harder to keep alive etc.
Or think about it another way, why should we encourage somebody hiding their money under a mattress in 1913 and not taking it out again until now. What possible benefit to society would that produce.

In libertarian Paul loving world those mattress hoarders are brilliant savers who should be praised and heaped adoration upon.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

peak debt posted:

Imagine if that hadn't been the case. You'd still have the Rockefeller and Carnegie estates controlling much of the world's economy.
Moderate inflation is a positive thing, it discharges personal debts, encourages spending, makes dynasties harder to keep alive etc.
Or think about it another way, why should we encourage somebody hiding their money under a mattress in 1913 and not taking it out again until now. What possible benefit to society would that produce.

It's also a natural thing.

Inflation is the logical consequence of the answer to the question of "Would you prefer $1 today or $1 next year?"

Hulk Krogan
Mar 25, 2005



ultimateforce posted:

Just going to leave this one here:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/five-economic-reforms-millennials-should-be-fighting-for-20140103

The comments are already amazing, so this might be hitting Facebook soon.

This has caused a pretty hilarious uproar on the right. Tons of right wing bloggers have written hatchet job posts basically just calling the author names and wailing about the Soviet Union. They had him on CNBC and there have apparently been a few segments on the article on Fox News. I highly recommend following Myerson on twitter, as he's been very active in answering some of the more hilarious conservative criticisms.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Tatum Girlparts posted:

In libertarian Paul loving world those mattress hoarders are brilliant savers who should be praised and heaped adoration upon.

B-b-but mattresses are government backed! :qq:

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Taerkar posted:

It's also a natural thing.

Inflation is the logical consequence of the answer to the question of "Would you prefer $1 today or $1 next year?"

No that's the justification given for interest on loaned money (it's not necessarily true either).

Inflation is a result of the supply of money and the demand for currency as well as other economic factors.

ModernMajorGeneral
Jun 25, 2010

gradenko_2000 posted:

I just left a Snopes link as a comment.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/likeitorleaveit.asp

The funny thing is, the guy who posted it isn't even Australia, and it doesn't look like he's living in Australia either (which would make it extra ironic if he was the immigrant)

I love this every time I see it because the right wing here thinks of Gillard as a shrieking feminist harpy version of Karl Marx. I imagine they would react the same way to this as Republicans would to a claim that Pelosi or Clinton was a proud defender of conservative values.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
I guess the PM before her was anti Muslim so they just updated the names and whoops.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

ultimateforce posted:

Just going to leave this one here:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/five-economic-reforms-millennials-should-be-fighting-for-20140103

The comments are already amazing, so this might be hitting Facebook soon.

quote:

Heather Gardner White • 38 minutes ago
All I can really say is...SAD~ Sad that someone can actually think like this~Sad that a magazine, well known magazine, would actually print this but on a side note~I guess happy that most, the majority-didnt read all 7500 comments, of the comments are against it. OH what a fight we have ahead of us....
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Joey Le'noir > Heather Gardner White • 32 minutes ago
Some people, like you, should come join freerepublic.com where only true American voices remain!

:getin:

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe

ultimateforce posted:

Just going to leave this one here:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/five-economic-reforms-millennials-should-be-fighting-for-20140103

The comments are already amazing, so this might be hitting Facebook soon.

The only issue I have with that article is that it's all over the place. I like the proposals, but if you're pushing to get people started on radical changes to our socioeconomic structures, maybe it'd be better to focus on one thing at a time. Particularly when you go from basically "jobs for everyone" to "money for everyone, jobs suck" in the very next bullet point. If you're someone who isn't already aware of concepts like a GMI, it seems to me that it's going to come across as too drastically different from the status quo to be worth fighting for.

Wojtek
Oct 17, 2008

quote:

Joey Le'noir > Heather Gardner White • 32 minutes ago
Some people, like you, should come join freerepublic.com where only true American voices remain!
I like to think this is not really trying to recruit a freeper but to make Heather Gardner White recoil in horror when she sees what other kind of people hold this opinion. I like to think that, but in reality HGW already has a freep account.

aBagorn
Aug 26, 2004
So my facebook feed (being from Philadelphia) is quickly getting filled with people (citing the usual right wing sources) getting up in arms about Obama's latest appointee to the DOJ, Debo Adegbile, because he was involved in the appeals process of Mumia Abu-Jamal, notorious cop killer.

I'm correct in thinking this a non-issue that people are blowing out of proportion, right?

Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

google "The Night Witches", and prepare for :stare:

Nevvy Z posted:

In the past 100 years, sure. That would be 1 dollar today equaling 33.33 dollars in old timey money. The question is, so what? 100 years is a long time for such a change to happen.

The one thing no one mentions is wages have also increased by almost the same amount. 100 years ago it was big national when Henry Ford raised his wage to $5 a day.

The Macaroni
Dec 20, 2002
...it does nothing.

aBagorn posted:

So my facebook feed (being from Philadelphia) is quickly getting filled with people (citing the usual right wing sources) getting up in arms about Obama's latest appointee to the DOJ, Debo Adegbile, because he was involved in the appeals process of Mumia Abu-Jamal, notorious cop killer.

I'm correct in thinking this a non-issue that people are blowing out of proportion, right?
Well, if you're thinking that people should do their jobs, and if their job involves representing a criminal defendant that they should do their professional duty to the best of their ability--then sure it's a non-issue.

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.

Amused to Death posted:

The one thing no one mentions is wages have also increased by almost the same amount. 100 years ago it was big national when Henry Ford raised his wage to $5 a day.

Except the past thirty or so years where they haven't.

Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

google "The Night Witches", and prepare for :stare:

EightBit posted:

Except the past thirty or so years where they haven't.

Except they have because the average wage in 1983 was like $13,000. They haven't increased in relative terms to inflation, they have for the most part kept on par with inflation or slightly above it with the bottom quintile losing a few percent and most others going up a few percent.

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Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

aBagorn posted:

So my facebook feed (being from Philadelphia) is quickly getting filled with people (citing the usual right wing sources) getting up in arms about Obama's latest appointee to the DOJ, Debo Adegbile, because he was involved in the appeals process of Mumia Abu-Jamal, notorious cop killer.

I'm correct in thinking this a non-issue that people are blowing out of proportion, right?

Short version: yes. The Republicans are looking for something to attack him on is all.

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