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The Lexus RC F Debuted: http://www.themotorreport.com.au/57991/lexus-rcf-revealed-in-new-leaked-images No confirmation on power yet; just Lexus' vague statement that the RC F will offer "well above 330kW".   
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sadnessboner posted:The Lexus RC F Debuted: Daytime running lights brought to you by Nike!
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The lower part of that rear bumper looks really bulbous to me. That blue looks nice, but really who buys performance lexuses aside from that one guy that posted in here about pussy shrapnel?
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After seeing a bunch of the new Lexuses on the road I have to say, the new Lexus grille looks very strange from the "1.5ft off the ground front 3/4 angle" view that all these publicity photos use, but in real life actually works pretty well. I suspect it will be much like the new Cherokee.
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Hollis Brown posted:The lower part of that rear bumper looks really bulbous to me. That blue looks nice, but really who buys performance lexuses aside from that one guy that posted in here about pussy shrapnel? I can't picture the person who looks at this, then the comparable BMW/Mercedes; and chooses the Lexus. But I'm just a guy on the internet The width of the B-pillar, and how little of the side rear window is actually window, really bothers me. This picture shows it better 
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DEUCE SLUICE posted:Speaking of interiors... So confused on this. I thought I read somewhere Audi was ditching the manual option for the TT. If Im wrong, this is awesome. Neat little touches here and there.   Has there been any pics or word on any interior changes on the STI? I know Im setting myself up for disappointment thinking the seats are going to be any different from the WRX outside of red 'STI' sticking on the headrests. Franco Caution fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Jan 9, 2014 |
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Franco Caution posted:So confused on this. It might be euro market only. Throatwarbler posted:After seeing a bunch of the new Lexuses on the road I have to say, the new Lexus grille looks very strange from the "1.5ft off the ground front 3/4 angle" view that all these publicity photos use, but in real life actually works pretty well. I suspect it will be much like the new Cherokee. Dunno, I saw both in real life and thought they both look as odd as they do in photos. The Lexus grille is to me particularly mystifying since I feel like their previous design language was plenty distinctive and this one is just plain ugly, as well as looking dated considering the massive shield grille fad is now like 5-10 years old. Especially on the LS, it totally ruins the look and in no way fits with the styling of the rest of the car.
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I love those air vents on the TT. They look great by themselves, and adding the A/C controls on them is just genius. It makes the center console look so clean. The infotainment screen in the instrument cluster is neat but I'd be annoyed that my passenger couldn't mess with it.
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Confirmation that the Mk7 Golf R will have manual or DSG options, only be a 4 door ( ). 6bhp down on the Euro model, DSG 0-60 in 4.9, manual in 5.3.http://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/08/vw-to-unveil-us-spec-golf-r-in-detroit-with-slightly-less-power/
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"US-Spec"  I wonder how the previous R sold when it was dicked down so much from the Euro spec Longpig Bard fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Jan 9, 2014 |
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It'll probably be like $40k too.
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Seems to be the last manual AWD hatch/wagon you can buy in the US, though.
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OrganizedEntropy posted:I probably shouldn't have had my expectations high, but when this concept is what Subaru themselves was showing us, it's painful not to see that transition to reality. I dunno, this concept didn't do much for me. The doors are too long and it's just a generic sedan shape - there's little in there that tells me that it's a performance car with a Group A rally pedigree.
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Bovril Delight posted:Confirmation that the Mk7 Golf R will have manual or DSG options, only be a 4 door ( This is ok news for me, since I'd get it in 4 (5?) door trim anyway. I drive mine like a mini-GT car and it's perfect for that. And hey, maybe the no 2 door option means that the rumors might be true, we'll get the Scirocco R  Now you can turn off the nannies as well, instead of the always-on like the current R. The lack of mention of LED tails hopefully means it will remain the same sort of cost it was already at around 34k or so. No mention of where they are going to build these things either, this next generation Golf for the American markets is going to be built in Mexico save for the R, or so the rumors go. Be interesting to find out.
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Cream_Filling posted:It might be euro market only. I haven't seen an LS in real life yet, the styling for the GS and ES really work IMO. Here's a video showing more details. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3aThDqnLPg
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Well this should reverse VW's current US sales disaster. Passat Sport. same 1.8T power, spoiler, some interior accents, 5 speed manual, $27k quote:VOLKSWAGEN ANNOUNCES PRICING FOR 2014 PASSAT SPORT
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Throatwarbler posted:Well this should reverse VW's current US sales disaster. Passat Sport. same 1.8T power, spoiler, some interior accents, 5 speed manual, $27k Please don't post images like that in the morning when I need to be awake. Much more suitable for bed time. Also wow, a car with 170 hp for only 27k (without options), I'm sold!
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Not to mention a full size 'sport' sedan with a 1.8L 4 and 5-speed stick. At least it's not a 1.6, I guess.
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I first read it as "3.8 Liter 4 cylinder" and my eyes got very large for a second. Considering the amount of cars with a "sports" trim, I don't think most Americans would know a sports car if it hit them in the face with 19 INCH LUXOR WHEELS.
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Stealth Like posted:Please don't post images like that in the morning when I need to be awake. Much more suitable for bed time. Also wow, a car with 170 hp for only 27k (without options), I'm sold! I don't think people buy this car looking for power. It's kind of the opposite of the Avenger, which has 283 hp for $18k in a turd of a midsize sedan.
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Weinertron posted:I don't think people buy this car looking for power. It's kind of the opposite of the Avenger, which has 283 hp for $18k in a turd of a midsize sedan. I drove one of those as a rental in Oregon in the winter in the torque steer was terrifying.
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Weinertron posted:I don't think people buy this car looking for power. It's kind of the opposite of the Avenger, which has 283 hp for $18k in a turd of a midsize sedan. Which begs the question, what ARE they looking for when buying this car? Just a car labelled "sport" despite not looking or acting sporty but priced as though it were? If this car were a sport it'd be curling. Edit: vv hey man the Corolla still has that 4 speed automatic doesn't it? VW is way ahead of the curve by comparison. davebo fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Jan 9, 2014 |
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davebo posted:Which begs the question, what ARE they looking for when buying this car? Just a car labelled "sport" despite not looking or acting sporty but priced as though it were? If this car were a sport it'd be curling. The 5-speed makes it super dated, it feels like having a tape deck in a new car. What other cars still come with 5 speeds? The ultra-cheap Versa?
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KakerMix posted:The 5-speed makes it super dated, it feels like having a tape deck in a new car. What other cars still come with 5 speeds? The ultra-cheap Versa? Model year 2014 Evo X haha.
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Throatwarbler posted:Well this should reverse VW's current US sales disaster. Passat Sport. same 1.8T power, spoiler, some interior accents, 5 speed manual, $27k What the hell is going on with VW? My wife's 08 Passat wagon has a six speed manual and the same engine as the GTI of that era. It's a fun to drive wagon that is very comfortable with good utility. It sure as hell cost less too, even with us having to special order it for the manual.
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KakerMix posted:The 5-speed makes it super dated, it feels like having a tape deck in a new car. What other cars still come with 5 speeds? The ultra-cheap Versa? It's not common for large cars like the Passat, lots of small cars like the Focus, Fiesta, Fit, Fiant 500 have it.
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davebo posted:Which begs the question, what ARE they looking for when buying this car? Just a car labelled "sport" despite not looking or acting sporty but priced as though it were? If this car were a sport it'd be curling. I guess having a manual? Seriously the Camry SE is sportier than this (and way cheaper too).
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Franco Caution posted:Model year 2014 Evo X haha. 2014 WRX, too. Franco Caution posted:Has there been any pics or word on any interior changes on the STI? In that leaked build guide the non-Limited STI seats were listed as Alcantara, so there will at least be some materials difference. DEUCE SLUICE fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Jan 9, 2014 |
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I always thought the "Passat Sport" was this one:
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Are VW USA's sales actually in the shitter, or is that just the AI conception based on how down-market and lovely VW has taken its bread and butter models? Because I still see a shitload of new Golfs, Jettas, and Tiguans around. I certainly wouldn't buy a new VW since they've gutted most everything that used to make them at least a little charming despite their questionable reliability, but do the real world sales numbers reflect that?
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Terminus Est posted:What the hell is going on with VW? My wife's 08 Passat wagon has a six speed manual and the same engine as the GTI of that era. It's a fun to drive wagon that is very comfortable with good utility. It sure as hell cost less too, even with us having to special order it for the manual. The US Passat is now an enlarged version of the cheapened Jetta. I have no idea why this one is so expensive. Spatule posted:I always thought the "Passat Sport" was this one: That is the CC in the US.
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Spatule posted:I always thought the "Passat Sport" was this one: That's the CC, which is based on the old US/current EU Passat. The US-only Passat is a different car. e:f,b.
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PeterWeller posted:The US Passat is now an enlarged version of the cheapened Jetta. I have no idea why this one is so expensive. Here too, but until last year or so it was the "Passat CC".
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Guinness posted:Are VW USA's sales actually in the shitter, or is that just the AI conception based on how down-market and lovely VW has taken its bread and butter models? Because I still see a shitload of new Golfs, Jettas, and Tiguans around. I certainly wouldn't buy a new VW since they've gutted most everything that used to make them at least a little charming despite their questionable reliability, but do the real world sales numbers reflect that? According to this WSJ chart, VW was down 6.9% from last year at 407k vehicles (367k total cars). It's about the same volume Kia and Mercedes individually do.
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I'm reading about Ford's new Ecoboost engines, the 2.3L 4 for the Mustang and the 2.7L V6 "nano" for the F-150 and I keep hoping one of those finds its way into a Fusion for a next gen Sport model. A Fusion Sport with either one of those wouldn't cannibalize SHO sales too much.
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Guinness posted:Are VW USA's sales actually in the shitter, or is that just the AI conception based on how down-market and lovely VW has taken its bread and butter models? Because I still see a shitload of new Golfs, Jettas, and Tiguans around. I certainly wouldn't buy a new VW since they've gutted most everything that used to make them at least a little charming despite their questionable reliability, but do the real world sales numbers reflect that? I ended up buying another vw a year and a half ago after swearing off of them quite a while back. I liked how the TDI drove compared to the competition. I generally don't recommend them to other people though.
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Snowdens Secret posted:Does that 200 have a big piece of black plastic in the C-pillar or is that glass? Quoting myself to say higher-res pics are out and it is in fact a (small, kinda weird looking) piece of glass
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The MK6 Golf/GTI was still made in Germany and comparatively high quality.
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DEUCE SLUICE posted:The MK6 Golf/GTI was still made in Germany and comparatively high quality. Minus the plethora of rattles anyway.
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