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Declan MacManus posted:i personally thing the cream on gold looks super lovely but ymmv, it's a classic look (that i personally hate but i also hate black strats with white pickguards and i also hate nonreverse firebirds so maybe i'm broken) Agreed on the cream/gold sentiment. I replaced the cream pickup rings/pickguard/knobs on my goldtop with black ones and it looks much better. Black Strats with white pickguards always looked boring as hell to me - it's the most generic color combo on what a lot of people consider the most generic guitar. Ironically my Strat is black despite holding that opinion, but it has a maple neck and a 3 play black pickguard like this guy's basses: Bill Posters posted:But seriously 3ply black on black with maple is a great colour combination on Fender guitars and basses and is basically the only option that makes Music Man basses look tolerable. Pity it doesn't make them sound any better. Don't know what the deal with that combo is but it left an impression on me and I knew I was going to buy it the moment I saw it on the sales floor.
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There is something really depressing about seeing a really well built, disgusting guitar;
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Jan 9, 2014 19:47
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Oh yeah, there's a tool supplier called grizzly here in the states and the president builds guitars. That's pretty cool because they also sell tone woods and hardware. The guitars he builds are some of the gaudiest things because he needs to show off I guess.
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Jan 9, 2014 19:52
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Thumposaurus posted:Oh yeah, there's a tool supplier called grizzly here in the states and the president builds guitars. ahahaha holy lollershite http://www.grizzly.com/the-presidents-guitars
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Jan 9, 2014 19:55
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Thumposaurus posted:Oh yeah, there's a tool supplier called grizzly here in the states and the president builds guitars. You aren't lying. 
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Jan 9, 2014 20:06
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White Dog Eggs posted:There is something really depressing about seeing a really well built, disgusting guitar; Not to mention the wood pattern looks like fingers which makes this guitar look like goatse. Guitoatse?
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Jan 9, 2014 20:26
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Thumposaurus posted:Oh yeah, there's a tool supplier called grizzly here in the states and the president builds guitars. Grizzly used to make kits They were the best kits And now they don't
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Jan 9, 2014 20:31
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 Hey mclast post some info about that Fender acoustic. I've never see one like it before. Would like to know wood/finish, age, cost, etc. oh yeah, and the tone. Would you say it has at least 2.5 Faustuses?
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Jan 9, 2014 20:43
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Declan MacManus posted:Grizzly used to make kits They still have them listed on the website/in the big rear end catalog.
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Jan 9, 2014 21:01
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for sure that's a Tim Armstrong Hellcat deluxe, solid mahogany top laminate mahogany back and sides. i'm not a big fan of fender acoustics generally but i like this one. no cutaway on an acoustic electric, and that's a magnetic pickup so it still sounds acoustic plugged in but there's less feedback and distorted it sounds halfway decent. $450 with hardcase included there's three common wood configurations to acoustics, spruce top mahogany back and sides is most common, which has a punchy midrange (lots of G and B strings in the tone, spruce top with rosewood next which has fuller lows and sweeter highs, expensive ones can get a really cool boom if you hit it right, and this one mahogany top with mahogany back and sides has a more even response, kind of a smoky, mellow flavour to the tone. it's great for vocal accompaniment
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Jan 9, 2014 21:02
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Thumposaurus posted:They still have them listed on the website/in the big rear end catalog. and i thought guitarfetish overcharged for artec stuff
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Jan 9, 2014 21:09
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Back to ugly-guitar chat, I'm drawing up a plan for the template at the moment. I won't spoil it by posting it yet, but I just want you to know that this is making me feel very dirty
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Jan 9, 2014 23:09
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White Dog Eggs posted:There is something really depressing about seeing a really well built, disgusting guitar; Now with Bat-a-rang brand bridge. Sounds great and can save your life in an emergency.
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Jan 9, 2014 23:13
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comes along bort posted:and i thought guitarfetish overcharged for artec stuff the *sigh* wood is good, i don't like that they make you drill your own holes for tuners but them's the breaks
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Jan 9, 2014 23:15
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comes along bort posted:i will never get tired of the henry kaiser dumble vid GOD I remember one of the first things I did when I joined SA was getting into a fight in ML with some dumb goon defending Henry Kaiser.
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Jan 9, 2014 23:30
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I don't know if Henry Kaiser can actually play or not but he sounds like one of those guys who just refuses to try to put time in and learn to develop technique with his instrument, so instead he just demands to be taken as seriously as anybody else, so he brute forces around the no-talent thing by adopting a lame, hilariously pretentious beatnik style of presentation to try and cover the fact that he is the guitar equivalent of a toddler banging on pots and pans. edit: found another guntar 
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Jan 9, 2014 23:44
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HollisBrown posted:GOD I remember one of the first things I did when I joined SA was getting into a fight in ML with some dumb goon defending Henry Kaiser. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5kh-_cGVdQ
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Jan 9, 2014 23:45
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pro watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEAjPaxpVOw
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GreatGreen posted:I don't know if Henry Kaiser can actually play or not but he sounds like one of those guys who just refuses to try to put time in and learn to develop technique with his instrument, so instead he just demands to be taken as seriously as anybody else, so he brute forces around the no-talent thing by adopting a lame, hilariously pretentious beatnik style of presentation to try and cover the fact that he is the guitar equivalent of a toddler banging on pots and pans. I would also add that I have never heard him play anything that has ever made me think he has even a basic grasp of functional harmony and probably couldn't play over I, IV,ii,V if his life depended on it.
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Jan 9, 2014 23:59
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He's totally right btw
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HollisBrown posted:He's totally right btw exactly. the most important things in sounding good are (in descending order) skill/technique, amp, and pickup
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HollisBrown posted:He's totally right btw he is, and guess what, there are people who disagree https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLxE8iDWD_w (skip to about 4:30 for the playing) the only reason to choose any wood is because of how it looks, or because you're building an acoustic guitar
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a retard posted:exactly. the most important things in sounding good are (in descending order) skill/technique, amp, and pickup this is true, but i disagree that all the other stuff doesn't matter at all. i work in a store, and A/B stuff all the time, and different guitars from the same line can sound very different even before you get into ash vs alder, maple vs rosewood fretboard, all sorts of different things. i actually dislike block inlays because i do think it affects.... something.
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Jan 10, 2014 00:18
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Declan MacManus posted:he is, and guess what, there are people who disagree  that video is so loving stupid. Idiots like that are proof positive that our culture has completely forgotten how science works.
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Jan 10, 2014 00:18
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HollisBrown posted:
"here's me playing this" "and here's me playing this" *guitars sound identical* "and it's so obviously different!" (any perceptible differences are probably due to picking hand attack and subtle variations in intonation caused by Rob Chapman being supershredder and that other guy being a bluesdad)
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Jan 10, 2014 00:21
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Some people simply cannot accept that their favorite guitar could be made out of 2x4s from home depot and it would make dick all difference to the sound.
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Jan 10, 2014 00:27
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1000 dollars for an instrument is nothing and guitars are the least expensive instruments really and anyone who thinks that people like Satriani and Vai weren't playing high quality instruments when learning guitar are dumb because they were raised in an affluent area and both attended private colleges for music. Not exactly soulful blues players is all I'm saying.
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Jan 10, 2014 00:31
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There was a scientific study made in Brazil where they built 9 guitars which were identical except for their bodies and it showed no significant difference between them. It was as funny to see how guitarists react to it as you'd expect.
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Salt Fish posted:1000 dollars for an instrument is nothing and guitars are the least expensive instruments really and anyone who thinks that people like Satriani and Vai weren't playing high quality instruments when learning guitar are dumb because they were raised in an affluent area and both attended private colleges for music. Not exactly soulful blues players is all I'm saying. 1000 for a guitar given the R&D (ha), materials, and labor costs is fine but get past that and you're reaching the point of diminishing returns If you're paying more than 1k for a guitar that wasn't handmade then you've been ripped off
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mclast posted:this is true, but i disagree that all the other stuff doesn't matter at all. i work in a store, and A/B stuff all the time, and different guitars from the same line can sound very different even before you get into ash vs alder, maple vs rosewood fretboard, all sorts of different things. i actually dislike block inlays because i do think it affects.... something. more likely than anything else it's differences in pickup inductance/output which varies even with mass-produced pickups
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Jan 10, 2014 00:56
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Are we posting our own guitars now? I don't know if mine are ugly, I always thought they were pretty plain.  I used to have a cheapo Harmony Strat clone that had Sharpie doodles all over the pickguard and stickers all over the body, and a bright pink knockoff Explorer-looking thing. I don't guitar much anymore. I kind of miss that pink one. It was absolutely horrible.
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Jan 10, 2014 00:56
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This is my ugliest one by far I also have a pretty ugly acoustic 
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mclast posted:this is true, but i disagree that all the other stuff doesn't matter at all. i work in a store, and A/B stuff all the time, and different guitars from the same line can sound very different even before you get into ash vs alder, maple vs rosewood fretboard, all sorts of different things. i actually dislike block inlays because i do think it affects.... something. There are so, so many factors that can effect a guitars sound, quality of wiring, variance in pots (the varience in cheap pots is insane, I've had 500ks register as anything from 430 to nearly 600, this is on 'good brands' too).. The main thing is the neck pocket though, if you can fit a cigarette paper in any part of the neck, it needs a shim, if you take the neck out the pocket and see any router marks, shim them. Any finish in the neck pocket? Get rid of it (anything between neck and pocket is bad and will effect sustain). If you can take all the screws out of the neck and the neck supports the weight of the body on it's own, then you are all sorted. Thumposaurus posted:I also have a pretty ugly acoustic I've seen these finishes before! If I remember they injected dye right into the trees a few weeks before they cut them down or something crazy like that.
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Jan 10, 2014 01:43
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Fender used to use it for coranados and others they called it wild wood. This one is a Kay that I picked up at a goodwill store for $20. It's the only one I've ever seen like it.
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Jan 10, 2014 01:48
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that makes a lot of sense. my go-to story is that 60th anniversary telecaster, stock USA standard except for the laquer finish.. but i'd bet the QC was loads better besides thumpo both of those are awesome ugly. kilhamster sorry but uncentered fretmarkers are ugly ugly
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Jan 10, 2014 01:50
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Thumposaurus posted:I also have a pretty ugly acoustic 
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Thumposaurus posted:I also have a pretty ugly acoustic This guitar is its own anguished ghost.
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White Dog Eggs posted:I've seen these finishes before! If I remember they injected dye right into the trees a few weeks before they cut them down or something crazy like that. That's a hell of a lot of work for something that ends up looking similar to the laminated wood stock on Bubba's huntin' rifle.
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Scrutinizer posted:There was a scientific study made in Brazil where they built 9 guitars which were identical except for their bodies and it showed no significant difference between them. Do you have a link by any chance?
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