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Rhyno posted:I've seen her in other things (that dreadful horror series) and I'm not impressed with her talents. She's not the worst actress I've ever seen but she's easily the least talented on this show. That and she has absolutely no chemistry with most of the cast. I'm pretty sure a solid half the reason people flocked to Felicity as hard as they did is because Rickards has insane chemistry with Amell, same with Ramsay.
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King of Solomon posted:That and she has absolutely no chemistry with most of the cast. I'm pretty sure a solid half the reason people flocked to Felicity as hard as they did is because Rickards has insane chemistry with Amell, same with Ramsay. This is another factor. I mean, she was quite good in the pilot but beyond that she's been very bland. She had excellent chemistry with Colin though.
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Rhyno posted:This is another factor. I mean, she was quite good in the pilot but beyond that she's been very bland. She had excellent chemistry with Colin though. Yeah, definitely. Unfortunately, good chemistry with Colin isn't exactly a boon anymore.
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King of Solomon posted:Yeah, definitely. Unfortunately, good chemistry with Colin isn't exactly a boon anymore. I know, I wish he'd lived somehow so they could stick Laurel off with Tommy.
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Rhyno posted:I know, I wish he'd lived somehow so they could stick Laurel off with Tommy. They should both live on in Flashbacks as boyfriend girlfriend, providing Arrow with a moral compass when times are hard.
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I just wish they hadn't burned Huntress already because Sara could become a version of that character so easily when they make Laurel Black Canary.
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Aphrodite posted:I just wish they hadn't burned Huntress already because Sara could become a version of that character so easily when they make Laurel Black Canary. I'm sure we can find a new female hero for Sara to become.
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Rhyno posted:I'm sure we can find a new female hero for Sara to become. Cassandra Cain Batgirl.
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Nooooo then I'd have to write a ton of stuff about racebending and poo poo and I'm so tired of me doing that.
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Krad posted:Cassandra Cain Batgirl. Yessssss! BrianWilly posted:Nooooo then I'd have to write a ton of stuff about racebending and poo poo and I'm so tired of me doing that. You wouldn't be able to stop yourself. I know! She can be Vixen!
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Yeah, I don't think the vitriol against Cassidy would be even half as much if Caity Loitz hadn't shown up. It's not exactly Cassidy's fault that she got saddled with the worst of the Season 1 (and even up to now) writing and laying groundwork, and considering the CW's usual standards she would probably be OK as Black Canary. But then someone shows up who makes a better connection to the entire rest of the cast in two episodes as opposed to two seasons, plus she has the physique and training (both in the story and in real life) to kick rear end, but it's ultimately a short-term gig? It seems very much a "grass is greener" kind of situation.
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I just hope the CW gives Caity a starring role on another show eventually. I've read that both the Supernatural boys have been offered long term contracts just to keep them on the CW in some manner when their show is over.
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Let's put this another way, the character of Lauren would not have amazing with a different actress.
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I'd like to see her have to do something other than stoic or sad before I decide if I want to watch her star in a show.
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I don't really mind Laurel all that much. I guess I'm interested in riding the story out and hoping they give her something more interesting to do this season.
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Katie Cassidy has the problem of her character never having a scene where she gets to show any chemistry with another character. There haven't been any scenes where she just chills with her dad, or doesn't have some massive emotional baggage with Ollie, or isn't being threatened. Laurel is always saddled with the setup of future arcs, or the emotional fallout of a current arc. If they could just give her a scene where she gets to hang out at Big Belly Burger and not have it end with ~EMOTIONS~ that would go a long way to helping her character. It's hard to have a connection with someone who is always the downer, and that has been her job on the show so far. Maybe they could have a scene where she gets mugged and Ollie is nearby and goes to save her, but she just beats rear end on her own, then walks of like it was nothing. Showing that she isn't a damsel in distress all the time would help her transition to Black Canary as well.
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It would certainly help if Katie would stop looking so drat angry in every single scene.
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Kruller posted:Katie Cassidy has the problem of her character never having a scene where she gets to show any chemistry with another character. There haven't been any scenes where she just chills with her dad, or doesn't have some massive emotional baggage with Ollie, or isn't being threatened. Laurel is always saddled with the setup of future arcs, or the emotional fallout of a current arc. If they could just give her a scene where she gets to hang out at Big Belly Burger and not have it end with ~EMOTIONS~ that would go a long way to helping her character. It's hard to have a connection with someone who is always the downer, and that has been her job on the show so far. She's not a damsel in distress such that beating up people would enhance her character. Her story arc doesn't need her rampaging violently through town. It needs, as you said before, scenes where she gets to hang out and, you know, characterize positively. I think it's kind of funny and disappointing that you'd think her saving grace would be to become a terminator for an episode.
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Drifter posted:She's not a damsel in distress such that beating up people would enhance her character. Her story arc doesn't need her rampaging violently through town. It needs, as you said before, scenes where she gets to hang out and, you know, characterize positively. No, her saving grace would be her being allowed to grow in some way. Her going all "terminator" would just sell the eventual Canary transition. I'm tired of a good actress being wasted on b a bad character, basically.
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She had some decent moments when she was being chatty with her black friend back in CNRI like a larval Leslie Knopes. Whatever happened to that friend anyway? Right now Laurel's less...that...and just all business all the time with no real friends. Even her fashion sense has gone from casual professional to ice queen business woman 24/7. Maybe it is completely intentional and when we look back on this character growth throughout the series it will be completely revelatory. Arrow is one of the very, very few shows on which I could place that kind of bet.
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WarLocke posted:Is this show back yet? One more week.
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Drifter posted:She's not a damsel in distress such that beating up people would enhance her character. Her story arc doesn't need her rampaging violently through town. It needs, as you said before, scenes where she gets to hang out and, you know, characterize positively. They should have had her just save herself from the Dollmaker. It's not as if he was good at martial arts or anything, just able to beat up regular coeds.
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Its hard to say "Laurel has no chemistry with the cast" when we never see her interact with 90% of the cast. They at least involved her with Roy and Thea, so there's progress there.
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Kruller posted:Katie Cassidy has the problem of her character never having a scene where she gets to show any chemistry with another character. There haven't been any scenes where she just chills with her dad, or doesn't have some massive emotional baggage with Ollie, or isn't being threatened. Laurel is always saddled with the setup of future arcs, or the emotional fallout of a current arc. If they could just give her a scene where she gets to hang out at Big Belly Burger and not have it end with ~EMOTIONS~ that would go a long way to helping her character. It's hard to have a connection with someone who is always the downer, and that has been her job on the show so far. This rings really true for me. It's not that the actress is that terrible, it's that her character is all these things: maudlin, judgmental, powerless, reactionary, and dry. It's totally a writing problem, and even the most talented or versatile actress couldn't make lemonade from those lemons. Her character isn't fun and isn't interesting; it's not fair to blame Katie Cassidy because Laurel-as-written is all she has to work with.
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Some Numbers posted:One more week. gently caress. Man. I need my fix  Narcissus1916 posted:Its hard to say "Laurel has no chemistry with the cast" when we never see her interact with 90% of the cast. They at least involved her with Roy and Thea, so there's progress there. Yeah, she's been pretty isolated after becoming a drug-addled drunk. I don't like the character, but maybe the lack of chemistry is in purpose because of her whole Tommy dying trauma? Not saying Katie Cassidy is capabale of giving such a layered performance like that or anything... haha, what. 
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They really make an effort to keep the show's timeline consistent with the real world's. In the clip they establish that Oliver has been looking for the man in the skull mask for five weeks, which matches the amount of time the show will have been off the air come next week.
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How do they shoot the show? Do they show episode 4 on TV while they're shooting episode 6, or do they shoot a huge chunk of episodes and spend 4 months editing them?
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I think they work fairly consistently, shooting a couple months in front of the airdates. Amell said on Facebook that they had shot up through episode 14 before they went on break over the holidays and they're back to work this week.
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It's sort of both, though the episode gap is larger. Shooting starts a few months ahead of the season premiere. How far depends on the production. For example Castle starts in July usually because it's a fairly straightforward show with mostly practical effects, while Orphan Black's latest season has a 6 month lead time. South Park famously does their episodes basically week by week, sometimes finishing just an hour or two ahead of airtime. Arrow season 2 started filming July 10th, 3 months ahead of premiere. Shooting of an individual episode takes about a week for most shows. Post production varies of course. The gap tends to shrink as the season goes on since full production of an episode takes more than a week. Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Jan 10, 2014 |
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I think in one of the interviews I watched Amell said they do 8 day shoots for each episode.
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Guys, Laurel looks different this season because she has been hitting the pills hard after Tommy died.
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Chef Bromden posted:Guys, Laurel looks different this season because she has been hitting the pills hard after Tommy died.  Acting
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jscolon2.0 posted:They should have had her just save herself from the Dollmaker. It's not as if he was good at martial arts or anything, just able to beat up regular coeds. Eh, wasn't that the episode where she finally realized everything was her fault? Having her save herself wouldn't have really worked with that.
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Merlinicus posted:Eh, wasn't that the episode where she finally realized everything was her fault? Having her save herself wouldn't have really worked with that. Well actually, everything was her fault because OTHER people were trying to save her. Had she been more capable and self reliant she wouldn't have gotten into the mess to begin with. And then she could have gone down a dark path of violence and loneliness where she felt like she needed to distance herself from everyone and then we'd see her next season fighting bears in a Russian circus.
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I bet Laurel would have chemistry with Slade 
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Bad Moon posted:I bet Laurel would have chemistry with Slade Who wouldn't have chemistry with Slade? 
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Drifter posted:Who wouldn't have chemistry with Slade? Probably Roy. 
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Krad posted:Probably Roy. Nah, they've even got compatible bloodtypes. 
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