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Any good nose tackles available in round 2 or 3 for the Packers? Doesn't need to have a dozen sacks, just has to eat 2 guys all the time.
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Jan 11, 2014 07:51
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OperaMouse posted:Any good nose tackles available in round 2 or 3 for the Packers? Daniel McCullers perhaps. 6'8" mountain
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Jan 11, 2014 07:57
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Grittybeard posted:UCF quarterback, getting a ton of buzz recently. Big arm, good size, threw for lots of yards and TDs for UCF. He looks like this but you have to look through the GIS results to get this because his girl is hot: has anyone made a bort license plate simpsons parody image macro for him yet? I think i saw "thinking with bortles" quipped in another thread.
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Jan 11, 2014 07:59
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Real hurthling! posted:has anyone made a bort license plate simpsons parody image macro for him yet? It wad the title of the aftermath thread.
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Jan 11, 2014 08:07
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bortles & jameis
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Roasted Donut posted:bortles & jameis Nice.
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Grittybeard posted:UCF quarterback, getting a ton of buzz recently. Big arm, good size, threw for lots of yards and TDs for UCF. He looks like this but you have to look through the GIS results to get this because his girl is hot: I assume just like the scouts in Moneyball girlfriend hotness is a prime input to any war room's big board.
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Grittybeard posted:UCF quarterback, getting a ton of buzz recently. Big arm, good size, threw for lots of yards and TDs for UCF. He looks like this but you have to look through the GIS results to get this because his girl is hot: Well he has a decent neckbeard tool but he's no Luck
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Jan 11, 2014 12:29
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Real hurthling! posted:has anyone made a bort license plate simpsons parody image macro for him yet? This is the entire reason I want the Browns to draft Bortles. I'm cool with JFF but I really need a meme to run into the ground since Savage'd is done.
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Jan 11, 2014 13:35
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Doltos posted:The most accurate mocks are always a day before the draft. Some even get the trades right. Agree on the mocks, but no one gets the trades right post-2011 CBA. The number of trades in the first round has increased substantially now that a rookie pay scale makes the first 10 picks desirable again.
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Jan 11, 2014 13:51
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Weebly posted:This is the entire reason I want the Browns to draft Bortles. I'm cool with JFF but I really need a meme to run into the ground since Savage'd is done. If that's all you care about I can tell you right now that JFF will be a hell of a lot more entertaining than a neckbeard with a funny name
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Jan 11, 2014 14:00
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Real hurthling! posted:has anyone made a bort license plate simpsons parody image macro for him yet? I want him start and do well just to see hear a sportscaster say something about the team that drafted him having found "lightning in a Bortles." Alternately, for him to suck so bad his games are called "aBortletions".
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Jan 11, 2014 16:10
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Azhais posted:Daniel McCullers perhaps. 6'8" mountain I think you generally want a shorter NT for leverage purposes but if the dude is massive enough then whatevs
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Jan 11, 2014 16:42
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Dusseldorf posted:I assume just like the scouts in Moneyball girlfriend hotness is a prime input to any war room's big board. If that's a deciding factor he's going 1-1...she's put together.
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For what it's worthquote:"As we've said, Sam's our starting QB," Snead said Thursday, via the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. "And maybe that's too way out of the box to take a QB that high." http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000311653/article/sam-bradford-locked-in-as-rams-qb-les-snead-says
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Quiet Feet posted:I want him start and do well just to see hear a sportscaster say something about the team that drafted him having found "lightning in a Bortles." Would a training camp battle be called "bortles kombat"?
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Jan 12, 2014 02:07
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John Brown posted:For what it's worth Seaborn or Bradford?
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Grittybeard posted:And then there will be a ton more and a ton more, also terribly wrong, then a couple of days before the draft the guys who have good connections start getting things right. If the Rams get Clowney and Watkins then 
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Quandary posted:If the Rams get Clowney and Watkins then
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Seriously the Rams should trade their pick to the Redskins for 2 firsts and a 2nd and the cycle continues
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What are the odds that Louis Nix III falls to the second? Just saw a mock that had the Texans going Teddy at 1-1 and then Nix at 2-33; would make sense if and when Crennel is hired as defensive coordinator to get a big NT.
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bhsman posted:What are the odds that Louis Nix III falls to the second? Just saw a mock that had the Texans going Teddy at 1-1 and then Nix at 2-33; would make sense if and when Crennel is hired as defensive coordinator to get a big NT. Nix is thought to be the best defensive tackle in the draft (right now) and is a massive 6'2" 345lbs. It would take Terrance Cody levels of laziness in this offseason to get him to drop that far I believe.
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b0ng posted:Nix is thought to be the best defensive tackle in the draft (right now) and is a massive 6'2" 345lbs. It would take Terrance Cody levels of laziness in this offseason to get him to drop that far I believe. If for some reason his knee doesn't respond like it should (or if it's worse than we're being led to believe somehow) I could see him falling quite a ways, but yeah I wouldn't really expect that to happen.
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Febreeze posted:Seriously the Rams should trade their pick to the Redskins for 2 firsts and a 2nd The sign of a good GM is how many picks they can fleece from idiot teams.
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TheChirurgeon posted:Agree on the mocks, but no one gets the trades right post-2011 CBA. The number of trades in the first round has increased substantially now that a rookie pay scale makes the first 10 picks desirable again. It does seem like every team that's traded away picks to move up gets hosed for it. Teams seem to be overvaluing a higher pick consistently.
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Parmesan Basil posted:The sign of a good GM is how many picks they can fleece from idiot teams. I wonder how badly Masai Ujiri would clean up in the NFL
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MJBuddy posted:It does seem like every team that's traded away picks to move up gets hosed for it. Teams seem to be overvaluing a higher pick consistently. Without taking the players that got drafted into context, the Dolphins got a steal to trade up for the 3rd pick last year. I wonder how that ties in with valuation for other top 3 picks traded throughout the years.
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Jan 13, 2014 06:16
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MJBuddy posted:It does seem like every team that's traded away picks to move up gets hosed for it. Teams seem to be overvaluing a higher pick consistently. The Falcons
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Intruder posted:The Falcons They reaped some of the fallout for that this year. That team got old and full of udfa in a hurry.
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Jan 13, 2014 06:24
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MJBuddy posted:It does seem like every team that's traded away picks to move up gets hosed for it. Teams seem to be overvaluing a higher pick consistently. Yeah, trading away draft picks is a very, very dangerous thing to do. With the cap the way it is and the league as competitive as it is you need to produce 2-3 starters and one good player from each draft to be effective and it is REALLY hard to do that without a volume of picks. I think that the statistics for this sort of thing are just starting to emerge but I'm pretty confident as they do, it will clearly show that 1) there is next to no difference in how well or poorly teams draft over time and 2) the only way to build depth is through the draft. That being said if you think a guy will put you over the top and win the SB...maybe. But that is a huge gamble.
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Jan 13, 2014 06:27
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See the Falcons. Julio Jones was probably a gamble worth going all in for, but they fell short last year, and this year their lack of depth was evident.
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Not that it matters, the Falcons probably would have drafted more horrible line players with those picks anyway.
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Anyone have good write ups on receivers in the late first range?>
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BlindSite posted:Anyone have good write ups on receivers in the late first range?> If you feel like spending a decent half hour or so watching Youtube videos, DraftBreakdown has the hookups. CBS Sports' draft coverage is my favorite for writeups, I've included them where applicable but they're not fully fleshed out for everyone yet. They'll probably start trickling out in more frequency after the Senior Bowl and combine. If we accept that Sammy Watkins, Mike Evans, and Marqise Lee will all be off the board before the Panthers pick, the generally agreed upon next tier is: Allen Robinson, Penn State Dane Brugler posted:STRENGTHS: Fluid and flexible athlete for his larger frame with room to get stronger. Deceiving acceleration with sharp cuts to be a dangerous catch-and-go pass catcher. Physical ballcarrier with balance and body strength to shake off defenders and pick up chunks of yards after contact. Brandin Cooks, Oregon State Dane Brugler posted:STRENGTHS: Special athlete with explosive feet and natural burst - springs in his legs. Fluid body control with excellent start/stop moves, open-field vision and patient hesitation to elude defenders - joystick moves with loose hips and joints. Beautiful acceleration with speed to burn - electric after the catch. Jordan Matthews, Vanderbilt Rob Rang posted:Matthews, a cousin of the legendary Jerry Rice, is a better football player than he is an athlete. While he led the SEC with a gaudy 19.0 yards-per-catch average last season, he has good (but not great) build-up speed. His size allows him to be moved inside and out in Vandy's offense, allowing the team to find him favorable matchups and has very good hand-eye coordination to haul in tough passes, including one-handed catches. Davante Adams, Fresno State (only a couple of videos here, unfortunately) Rob Rang posted:STRENGTHS: Broad-shouldered and well-built wideout who consistently wins at the catch-point, demonstrating good leaping ability, timing and hand-eye coordination. Tracks the ball well over either shoulder and has strong hands to pluck the ball when turned towards the quarterback. Quickly corrals the pass and wastes no time in getting upfield, showing vision to set up blocks as well as strength to run through arm tackles and a nice stutter-step to elude. Odell Beckham, Jr., LSU Dane Brugler posted:STRENGTHS: Smooth athlete with very good acceleration to get up to top speed quickly. Terrific shake and burst out of his cuts to beat press and do something after the catch - dangerous with the ball. Excellent vision with dynamic moves. Good footwork, timing and depth in his routes to create separation and catch the ball well in stride. Jarvis Landry, LSU Dane Brugler posted:STRENGTHS: Solidly-built frame with above average toughness and body strength. Good build-up speed with smooth quickness and body control. Strong cuts and controlled momentum down the field - very good catch-and-go receiver. Good depth and lean in his routes and won't slow down in his breaks - good patience and plays off defenders to create some room to work. Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State quote:STRENGTHS: Near-tight end size (6-5, 235) with a ridiculously large wingspan, giving him a catching radius that is probably on-par with anyone at the NFL level. Shows the gliding speed and short-area quickness to create some separation and be a terror in jump-ball situations, especially in the red zone. I like Robinson, Matthews, Landry, and Adams the most out of this group, fwiw.
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I would like the Dolphins to draft ODB or Benjamin if they insist on taking a WR instead of one of the positions that they actually need help with (LB, OL, GM)
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Those LSU receivers are going to make some team pretty happy. bewbies posted:Yeah, trading away draft picks is a very, very dangerous thing to do. With the cap the way it is and the league as competitive as it is you need to produce 2-3 starters and one good player from each draft to be effective and it is REALLY hard to do that without a volume of picks. Building depth through the draft is great because pretty much anyone who gets drafted is incredibly athletic. Those guys that fill out your practice squad, special teams, and third string that you picked up on friendly contracts over the years keep your cap from turning into hell. That being said, I see nothing wrong with trading away draft picks for an established player. It's a trade off.
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Doltos posted:Those LSU receivers are going to make some team pretty happy. Trading for an established player is even worse IMO. With the rookie wage scale you're losing that opportunity for a relatively cheap player and instead paying most likely a premium for that established player. Unless that player is still on a team-friendly deal it's going to hurt your long term cap.
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excidium posted:Trading for an established player is even worse IMO. With the rookie wage scale you're losing that opportunity for a relatively cheap player and instead paying most likely a premium for that established player. Unless that player is still on a team-friendly deal it's going to hurt your long term cap. Then again who the gently caress knows if that Rookie is going to pan out. It's Risk/Reward. Plus Unless you have a terrible GM/Cap person. It's easy as poo poo to find cap room in the NFL. Restructure some deals, add a year and convert someone's salary to a signing bonus. You Ideally want to draft everyone, especially a QB, as the most powerful thing in the NFL is a top flight Quarterback still on his Rookie Contract. But the Draft is a crapshoot, So you have to weigh the pick(s)/cap space with the chance and likelihood that you will get a impact player. Plus the Draft is weird. There could be a run on QB's or *position that you want* and you could be left holding the bag, with no options whatsoever as free agency has already happened. Dexo fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Jan 13, 2014 |
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I'd love to see the Panthers take a WR at 28. What are the odds that Robinson or Beckham Jr. will be there?
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