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Dragonatrix posted:Power Generators are the steal, not the drop. It's Rare Item you don't want, since that makes it impossible to get. Getting a successful steal means the enemy won't drop items. Leave both Mug and Rare Item at home for that one. The one boss fight I can think of where you might not want to Steal is the second Edea fight - Mugging gets you a Royal Crown, but otherwise she drops a Force Armlet, which you need for Rinoa's Shooting Star, and it's easier to just get it there instead of getting Familiar to buy it from Esthar. Not that either Mag+60% or improving Rinoa's weapon is crucial.
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ApplesandOranges posted:Getting a successful steal means the enemy won't drop items. Leave both Mug and Rare Item at home for that one. Except that the only thing a suitably high level (30+) Blitz drops is Dynamo Stones. You want Mug if you want Ray Bomb that way, because it's the only way to get it from one. If you really Dynamo Stones for some reason its easier to just use Card Mod on Blitzes anyway.
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Jan 11, 2014 07:52
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Huh, fair enough, I must have been thinking of Belhemels and Laser Cannons. Not like Ray-Bomb would ever be worth hunting down Blitzes for unless you're a completionist. Now that I think of it, I've never intentionally gone out of my way to break FFVIII. I actually like pretending there's some sense of challenge in the game. But then again, I don't hate FFIII DS, so my perception may be skewed.
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Jan 11, 2014 07:58
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ApplesandOranges posted:Now that I think of it, I've never intentionally gone out of my way to break FFVIII. I actually like pretending there's some sense of challenge in the game. That's mostly what I'm talking about when I say "stealing from enemies;" bosses have some pretty lackluster drops in that game, but their steals tend to be at least kind of exciting (Str Up is nice when Squall's natural Strength at Lv100 is I believe 45). Still, the fact that stealing makes them not drop anything makes the crap command even worse.
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Jan 11, 2014 08:05
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ApplesandOranges posted:Huh, fair enough, I must have been thinking of Belhemels and Laser Cannons. Yeah, probably but even then there are other ways to get it. Mugging Elastoids at the same level works, for example, and it's a guaranteed drop from Mobile Type 8 if you don't have it by then anyway. Personally I'd just get it from the Type 8, since you're not missing anything by not having it before then. Then again, 99% of the time, I was using Quistis to Micro Missile random encounters to Card them instantly. The other 1% of the time, I was using Shockwave Pulsar. 
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Jan 11, 2014 08:12
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The White Dragon posted:Well go do a no-junction Lv100 game and report back. I'd say you're allowed to use stat up items but you'd have to junction GFs for that. Actually did that before, then later on I did: No Magic Junction, No Items (except Blue Magic/Magazines), No Invincible Moon, No Escape, No Bonus abilities, No Auto-Potion, Attack/Limit Break Only, No Enc-Half/None, No Card Mod. The main difference is the lack of Invincible Moon making things trickier in some places and easier in others. You do get a few Str Ups from Raijin, as far as I remember. Dragonatrix posted:Yeah, probably but even then there are other ways to get it. Mugging Elastoids at the same level works, for example, and it's a guaranteed drop from Mobile Type 8 if you don't have it by then anyway. Personally I'd just get it from the Type 8, since you're not missing anything by not having it before then. If you're doing a No-Junction game, you may or may not want to get one before Disc 3, as it makes Edea much easier. Alternative is Laguna Scenario 2, but that's much more dangerous.
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Jan 11, 2014 08:27
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I stalled out on a low level run of 8, last time I played. Not that I care much, since I was pretty much right at the point where the plot stops being bad and takes a swerve into terrible.
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Jan 11, 2014 08:45
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ApplesandOranges posted:Actually did that before, then later on I did: No Magic Junction, No Items (except Blue Magic/Magazines), No Invincible Moon, No Escape, No Bonus abilities, No Auto-Potion, Attack/Limit Break Only, No Enc-Half/None, No Card Mod. The main difference is the lack of Invincible Moon making things trickier in some places and easier in others. This sounds like the most boring thing ever.
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Jan 11, 2014 09:19
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Dr Pepper posted:This sounds like the most boring thing ever. Yeah, that sounds pretty shite. At least with other gimmick runs, like low-level and natural magic runs in FFVI, there's some interesting tactics you can utilize to get around only Terra and Celes having magic.
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Jan 11, 2014 12:36
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Been listening to the soundtrack to FFIV recently, it has a lot of great music.
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Jan 11, 2014 13:55
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Free weekend for FFXIV if you're previously bought the game.
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Jan 11, 2014 15:51
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Schwartzcough posted:The problem with Mug has always been the chance to kill the thing you're trying to steal from before you successfully steal. Especially problematic in 8 when you're very likely to kill things too quickly. It would be cool if finishing off an enemy with Mug would guarantee that you steal the item on that hit, but what would JRPGs be without making you do tedious tasks over and over again?
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Jan 11, 2014 16:01
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That loving Sned posted:It would be cool if finishing off an enemy with Mug would guarantee that you steal the item on that hit, but what would JRPGs be without making you do tedious tasks over and over again? They would be bitched about by the 'hardcore' for being too easy.
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Jan 11, 2014 16:53
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5er posted:They would be bitched about by the 'hardcore' for being too easy. I have never seen anyone defend RNG's, hardcore or otherwise.
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Oxxidation posted:I have never seen anyone defend RNG's, hardcore or otherwise. Go on some MMO forums.
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Oxxidation posted:I have never seen anyone defend RNG's, hardcore or otherwise.
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Jan 11, 2014 20:12
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Oxxidation posted:I have never seen anyone defend RNG's, hardcore or otherwise. Go check out XCOM someday. There's even bonus options you can enable to make the RNG even more punishing and random. RNG has a lot of appeal to people because it adds random chance and unexpected moments to a game. That and it gives a tiny rush of pleasure to a certain mindset when the RNG rolls in your favor. It's basically hitting the same place as gambling does. It's technically tedious busywork but to some people it is just more satisfying to have that element of randomness. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Jan 11, 2014 |
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Jan 11, 2014 21:07
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VeggieSmuggler posted:Been listening to the soundtrack to FFIV recently, it has a lot of great music. Far as I'm concerned, it's the best OST in the series Best Boss Theme? Check. One of, if not the, best Special Boss Themes? Check. One of, if not the, best Final Boss Theme? Check. One of the best dungeon themes ever? Check. One of, if not the, best Town Theme? Check. And I guess that is getting obnoxious. But then there's alsO Golbez, Clad iN Dark, Red Wings, Theme of Love, the Lunar Whale.... The list just goes on and on. I think Golbez's theme is ripped from some real music though. Although I've heard a decent bit of FF's more epic music is shamelessly ripping off classic music. Dancing Mad I think did it?
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Jan 11, 2014 21:31
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NikkolasKing posted:Far as I'm concerned, it's the best OST in the series Sorry the Zeronus theme is boring garbage and the Giant of Babil theme is so just unfitting for that dungeon and what's happening in that plot I can't really enjoy it. It sounds like it should be the world map theme not a dungeon theme.
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Jan 11, 2014 21:57
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I always forget how rad the Four Fiends theme is, though.
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A while back, people were talking about some kind of high-res version of FFIX when played on an emulator. Is there any version of that for VIII? Or really, any quality of life mods for the PSX version of games? I want to play through VIII and IX again, but have problems going back to PSX era days. Like, was that just a filter being run directly from the emulator, in those FFVII backgrounds a few pages back? Cause that would do what I needed it to do.
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NikkolasKing posted:Far as I'm concerned, it's the best OST in the series I honestly have yet to hear any video game's soundtrack that can top FFX for me. It's an utter masterpiece. I know people will disagree but that's okay. Say what you will about the story, but you cannot deny the soundtrack is completely top-notch and fits the game so well it is almost unreal. Like, to the point of I'd honestly propose that the game would not be anywhere near as great if the soundtrack were different. Captain Mog fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jan 11, 2014 |
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Jan 11, 2014 22:46
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NikkolasKing posted:Far as I'm concerned, it's the best OST in the series It has some great music, sure, but it's no FFVI.
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Captain Mog posted:I honestly have yet to hear any video game's soundtrack that can top FFX for me. It's an utter masterpiece. I know people will disagree but that's okay. Say what you will about the story, but you cannot deny the soundtrack is completely top-notch and fits the game so well it is almost unreal. Like, to the point of I'd honestly propose that the game would not be anywhere near as great if the soundtrack were different. Perhaps it's teh fact I played FFVII, VIII, IX and X in rapid succession but I've never been able to decide which of those four I love more. it really depends on my mood. One second I'll think "nothing can be more fitting than X's Someday the Dream Will End" and then I'll think "but ya know, Kuja's Immoral Melody is easily the best FF villain song" but then I think FFVIII has this great track and FFVII has that amazing tune.... I love them all so much. Although the FF series no longer occupies the #1 or #2 spot in My Favorite Video Game Soundtracks, they're still very good and very much in the Top 10. NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jan 11, 2014 |
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NikkolasKing posted:One second I'll think "nothing can be more fitting than X's Someday the Dream Will End" And you'd be right.  Though the real answer is, there's no best. Really looking forward to seeing what they do with all of these on the remastered version of the game. So, they released a soundtrack for FFXIV 1.0 (the old and otherwise crappy version of the game) called "Before Meteor", with the majority of it being Uematsu, but they seriously need to do one with the new music they've added in A Realm Reborn, because it's fantastic. I can never stop gushing about how worthy everything in XIV:ARR is of the Final Fantasy name, far and beyond much of which has been put out in the past decade, and the music is no exception. In particular, I like this one, which has a flavor similar to Uematsu's Lost Odyssey work. Sadly, they've been pretty adamant about taking down tracks posted to YouTube, so these links will probably be dead soon. But, we've got things like this area music, this other area music, this city music, and this unique boss music, complete with screamy vocals, and this other very notable boss music.
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Mazed posted:And you'd be right. Steel Reason from FFXIV:ARR has really shot high into my favourite special boss themes list (video is some dude in a mask playing over the electric guitar bit).
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Jan 12, 2014 02:49
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It seems like every day there is a conversation in FC chat about how great the music in FFXIV is. My favorite is the remix of the FF3 battle theme that plays in various quests.
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Jan 12, 2014 03:33
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Levantine posted:It seems like every day there is a conversation in FC chat about how great the music in FFXIV is. My favorite is the remix of the FF3 battle theme that plays in various quests. *FF2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UFC-IVheRw
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That's it, I do get them confused pretty often. Still love it, it seems to only play on "silly" type quests and it just kind of fits.
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I really wish there was an official soundtrack out for FFXIV: ARR. I'm trying to find the track that plays when you fight Ultima Weapon, not the final form, but the first time you fight it. Such an amazing OST though.
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FFVI had the best soundtrack ever, both in terms of composition and also in the tonal quality they were able to get out of the SNES synthesizer. Though the redone music for the FFIV remakes is pretty good. The final boss theme is so awesome after going through one hell of an epic track in Dancing Mad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jVcn6I452I It's too bad the song itself is way too loving fast to be played well, I don't think I've heard anyone try to play it with real instruments ever. I'm also partial to the World of Balance overworld theme and the Atma Weapon themes. This game's soundtrack was peak Uematsu. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH40gYZhwWI
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I don't know if it's a blessing or shameful that FFXIV: ARR is doing a better job of telling a Final Fantasy-style story than any of the mainline games have done in over a decade. EDIT: Wait, no, scratch that. FFXII did alright. So almost 8 years, then.
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1st AD posted:It's too bad the song itself is way too loving fast to be played well, I don't think I've heard anyone try to play it with real instruments ever. After a total flop from Distant Worlds II (I hate that synth organ so much), Returning Home's rendition loving nails it. The (drum and) piano remix featured in Love SQ is also really good.
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Shaezerus posted:After a total flop from Distant Worlds II (I hate that synth organ so much), Returning Home's rendition loving nails it. Meh that version sucks. No double bass drum and played at like half the speed. edit: actually I guess it's not a double bass, but there's a cool thing in the drums where it sounds like a series of snare drums tuned to different notes is playing in rapid succession. 1st AD fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Jan 12, 2014 |
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Holidae posted:I don't know if it's a blessing or shameful that FFXIV: ARR is doing a better job of telling a Final Fantasy-style story than any of the mainline games have done in over a decade. That's a pretty small sample size, considering in the past eight years Square has released one main Final Fantasy game and a sequel to it made of repurposed assets that didn't get used. That's the worst part, I think, that they spent so long on something that was so bad.
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Basically what I'm saying I wish they'd stop shoving this awful universe they've crafted down our throats.
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The White Dragon posted:Borderlands 2's difficulty is pretty much defined by its RNG drops and, if their whining to the devs is any indication, the only way hardcore players could feel gratified is if BL2's natural drop rates were lower than the rarest items in WoW. Which they currently are. How you spec characters matters some too. Having lovely guns matters less when you're throwing down turrets everywhere, compared to someone else dual wielding two lovely ARs (and all ARs sucked in BL2). I used turrets and just carried whatever seemed like it'd work best to self-revive when something inevitably killed me while my turrets weren't out. It's a shame that ARs were so lackluster, but that you could get some crazy powerful ones in BL1 probably didn't help expectations.
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Evil Fluffy posted:How you spec characters matters some too. Having lovely guns matters less when you're throwing down turrets everywhere, compared to someone else dual wielding two lovely ARs (and all ARs sucked in BL2). Or a rocket launcher AND a sniper rifle. Therefore 
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The White Dragon posted:Borderlands 2's difficulty is pretty much defined by its RNG drops and, if their whining to the devs is any indication, the only way hardcore players could feel gratified is if BL2's natural drop rates were lower than the rarest items in WoW. Which they currently are. Don't forget nerfing an entire category of shields into the ground because people would rather whine about them then just... use another shield.
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NikkolasKing posted:Far as I'm concerned, it's the best OST in the series I don't know. The FF6 OST was able to make what would be a creepy and gross plot have emotional impact almost entirely due to the song that played during the relevant scenes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TzPDsBNtsw Also, as a bonus it completely blew my mind when I found out that t was a slower remix of Locke's Theme with different instrumentation. This is awesome. buddychrist10 fucked around with this message at 10:15 on Jan 12, 2014 |
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